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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Rally against blasphemy Reply #15 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:53am freediver wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:24am: Can you give an example of an equivalent protest in Australia? Yes, Jones convoy of 'no confidence' was just as big a flop
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Re: Rally against blasphemy
Reply #16 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:55am

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:42am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:04am:

freediver wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:01am:

It's just a tiny minority isn't it John? Nothing to worry about at all....

minority? Muslims in Indonesia ... I highly doubt it. But 150 000 out of a potential 250 million is not very meaningful at all.

Apologists will protest it is a minority right up until it gets to 125000001 at which point they seamlessly segue to arguing that it is the majority and thus the people's will.

An apologist will always find ways to deflect, spin, distract, divert any atrocity, any violence, any event the primary principle, Islam cannot be criticised.

Self loathing cultural relativism innit.

who is spinning anything? I just don't find 150 000 out of 250million very meaningful ...
you can panic and hide under your bed over it if you like, meanwhile I'll chose not to be bothered by it.

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Re: Rally against blasphemy
Reply #17 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:59am

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:42am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:04am:

freediver wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:01am:

It's just a tiny minority isn't it John? Nothing to worry about at all....

minority? Muslims in Indonesia ... I highly doubt it. But 150 000 out of a potential 250 million is not very meaningful at all.

Apologists will protest it is a minority right up until it gets to 125000001 at which point they seamlessly segue to arguing that it is the majority and thus the people's will.

An apologist will always find ways to deflect, spin, distract, divert any atrocity, any violence, any event the primary principle, Islam cannot be criticised.

Self loathing cultural relativism innit.

who is spinning anything? I just don't find 150 000 out of 250million very meaningful ...
you can panic and hide under your bed over it if you like, meanwhile I'll chose not to be bothered by it.

Talking general principles John, the numbers don't matter to apologists low or high, nothing that Islam does matters in so far as it can be defended against criticism.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Rally against blasphemy Reply #18 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:03am Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:59am: Talking general principles John, the numbers don't matter to apologists low or high, nothing that Islam does matters in so far as it can be defended against criticism. you're not talking principles. No one is apologising for anything so your whole argument is based bullsh1t
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 22743 ACT Gender:	Re: Rally against blasphemy Reply #19 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:06am I think 150,000 people rally in any large city is definitely significant!
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Rally against blasphemy Reply #20 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:10am Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:06am: I think 150,000 people rally in any large city is definitely significant! .06% of the population is not significant anywhere
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: Rally against blasphemy Reply #21 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:12am .06% of the population is not significant anywhere Even if they kill 88 Australians
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Rally against blasphemy Reply #22 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:14am miketrees wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:12am: .06% of the population is not significant anywhere Even if they kill 88 Australians
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Reply #23 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:31am

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:03am:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:59am:

Talking general principles John, the numbers don't matter to apologists low or high, nothing that Islam does matters in so far as it can be defended against criticism.

you're not talking principles. No one is apologising for anything so your whole argument is based bullsh1t

general principles bozo, I am not restricting my comment to just this individual thread, the forum is packed to the rafters with apologist clowns.

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Re: Rally against blasphemy
Reply #24 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:45am

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:03am:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:59am:

Talking general principles John, the numbers don't matter to apologists low or high, nothing that Islam does matters in so far as it can be defended against criticism.

you're not talking principles. No one is apologising for anything so your whole argument is based bullsh1t

general principles bozo, I am not restricting my comment to just this individual thread, the forum is packed to the rafters with apologist clowns.

but you are including this thread ...... why? I don't see anyone apologising for anything. Yet you do. You either have comprehension problems , or you do not know what an apologist is

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Re: Rally against blasphemy
Reply #25 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:49am

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:03am:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:59am:

Talking general principles John, the numbers don't matter to apologists low or high, nothing that Islam does matters in so far as it can be defended against criticism.

you're not talking principles. No one is apologising for anything so your whole argument is based bullsh1t

general principles bozo, I am not restricting my comment to just this individual thread, the forum is packed to the rafters with apologist clowns.

... , or you do not know what an apologist is

Enlighten me John, what is an apologist?

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Re: Rally against blasphemy
Reply #26 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:51am

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:49am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:03am:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:59am:

Talking general principles John, the numbers don't matter to apologists low or high, nothing that Islam does matters in so far as it can be defended against criticism.

you're not talking principles. No one is apologising for anything so your whole argument is based bullsh1t

general principles bozo, I am not restricting my comment to just this individual thread, the forum is packed to the rafters with apologist clowns.

... , or you do not know what an apologist is

Enlighten me John, what is an apologist?

it's not someone who thinks .06% of the population is insignificant Cheesy

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Re: Rally against blasphemy
Reply #27 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 10:04am

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:51am:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:49am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 9:03am:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:59am:

Talking general principles John, the numbers don't matter to apologists low or high, nothing that Islam does matters in so far as it can be defended against criticism.

you're not talking principles. No one is apologising for anything so your whole argument is based bullsh1t

general principles bozo, I am not restricting my comment to just this individual thread, the forum is packed to the rafters with apologist clowns.

... , or you do not know what an apologist is

Enlighten me John, what is an apologist?

it's not someone who thinks .06% of the population is insignificant Cheesy

That % only works if You're suggesting 100% of the population in that vast archipelago has the means to travel to Jakarta. Should you also adjust your figures for the very young and elderly?

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: Rally against blasphemy Reply #28 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 10:40am There it is , very predictable. When your argument does not stand scrutiny you resort to abuse.
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Re: Rally against blasphemy
Reply #29 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 2:04pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:53am:

freediver wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

Can you give an example of an equivalent protest in Australia?

Yes, Jones convoy of 'no confidence' was just as big a flop Grin

So a protest that may have been a bigger proportion of the population than anything we have seen here is "not meaningful"? What fraction of the population have to get out into the street to make a protest meaningful?

Does this sort of thing make you think that Islam is a threat to basic freedoms?

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