by our Chief Scientist.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/you-got-polar-ice-for-that-burn?utm_term=...

Please read and educate yourself.

I wonder what irrelevant side issue Lee will use to detract and deflect?

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 9:56am:




from your quote -

'That theory goes back to 1896, Swedish physical chemist Svante Arrhenius did the initial work on that. He subsequently got a Nobel prize for other work and he identified that back in 1896 that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, for basic physical reasons will trap heat.'

Two things immediately spring to mind.

1. Why does Finkel use Arrhenius 1896 paper? In his 1906 paper he lowered the amount of warming postulated by a doubling of CO2. In his 1896 paper he said 5 or 6°C. In his 1906 paper he said 1.6°C - 3.9°C.  But the same qualifiers persist.

2. Chief among them, and something entirely missed by Finkel, is the part where Arrhenius said "all other things being equal".

To date no-one has shown that all other things are equal. Water vapour, Air pressure. Isn't that one of the first things they should try to prove?

Of course you will probably think that is a deflection, because you are a true beleiber (sic).

BTW - Didn't someone the other day post hat there was more water vapour in the atmosphere?

We are getting there tho, and that rate of coal burning has probably accelerated too. Not only that, we are destroying CO2 sinks like forests, just look at what is happening in the Amazon!

D- deflection. Needs to try harder.

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 12:04pm:


Highlighted - Deflection, still a net CO2 sink.

Now you need to expand on that and show the reserves will provide the level of CO2 that you seek.

And don't forget Australia and South America (still) are CO2 sinks.

lee wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 3:54pm:


You trust Bolt and EXXON-MOBIL executives

Why am I not surprised

lee wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 7:24pm:


Who is this ALice Gore lady you keep dragging up? Is she a Climatologist?

Why did EXXON conceal their own internal research into the dangers of global warming and its effect of the earth's climate system?

I am sure you are aware that EXXON is being sued over its climate change cover up and fraud?

Why is that happening lee?

You should apologise before I vacate this establishment - a vacation event that will occur prior to Halloween

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 10:34pm:



Hmm. Jovial Monk cites Australia's Chief Scientist. Is he a Climatologist?

'Chief scientist Dr Alan Finkel (who has a PhD in electrical engineering and was a postdoctorate. fellow in neuroscience)'

https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/you-got-polar-ice-for-that-burn?utm_term=...

I guess the answer is an emphatic  "NO".

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 10:12pm:



Even the bit "All other things being equal"?

Water vapour is increasing, therefore "all other things" have not remained equal.

Basic principle.

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 12:07pm:

I'd be sad to see that day but- well- I will rejoice for you because this internet thing never learns!

I shouldn't have bothered spending twelve months dreaming up a new gmail account now I think about it... DRATS, BUT BULLY FOR YOU AS YOU HAVE BEEN A SAGE TO THIS FORUM AND DONE YOUR BIT TO SAVE THE KIDS 

lee wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 11:51am:

Some REAL AGW scientists putting their lives on the line:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/25/science/gordon-hamilton.html?_r=0

Go on Lee, post some cheap diversion about this!

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:33pm:



You have a similar writing style to one we know. Are you sure you are not a sock?

BTW - That greater water vapour must be making things warmer, eh?

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 31^st, 2016 at 5:10pm:



Butter me up.

Thanks DAD.

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 9:33am:


Obviously not you. This is supposedly a science thread.

Grendel wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:


This is the environment forum and the Greens are an environmental party. The  thread involves Malcolm Roberts and his reliability and integrity is completely relevant to the topic.

He has shown himself to be completely untrustworthy and a liar

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 2:13pm:

Ah no he hasn't but YOU are pushing the limits of integrity though.

Grendel wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Roberts is vague!



Many hypnotists acknowledge they can't convince everyone!

Hypnotists don't even bother trying to convince everyone... But you know all that!

lee wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 4:25pm:

Lol!

You're actually comparing Malcolm Roberts statements to that of climate science aren't you?



We all know jevons paradox pays your bills buddy 

lee wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 4:57pm:

.........says Lee^TM 

Grendel wrote on Oct 31^st, 2017 at 11:11am:

You don't even know what empirical means