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Raven Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2982 Around	Why are religious people "Cafeteria" followers? Oct 11^th, 2016 at 11:41pm For most religious folk they pick and choose which doctrine to follow, usually those that are in line with their own views. So if this is the word of "god" why do they chose to ignore their god's word? Shouldn't it be all or nothing?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111572 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Why are religious people "Cafeteria" followers? Reply #1 - Oct 12^th, 2016 at 5:59am It's about dialectics:
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Chimp_Logic Gold Member Offline πολιτικός Posts: 4826 Mawson Base Gender:	Re: Why are religious people "Cafeteria" followers? Reply #2 - Oct 12^th, 2016 at 10:56am Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2016 at 5:59am: It's about dialectics: for you
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111572 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Why are religious people "Cafeteria" followers? Reply #3 - Oct 12^th, 2016 at 4:00pm But Chimp, you either love people or you hate them. What are you going to do when you go to Venus?
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Re: Why are religious people "Cafeteria" followers?
Reply #4 - Oct 12^th, 2016 at 4:33pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2016 at 4:00pm:

But Chimp,
you either love people or you hate them.

What are you going to do when you go to Venus?

well done Jethro - that is a very good question that you posed in public.

Congratulations.

I will need to think deeply about my response - but as you know I don't have much time or posts left in this place of worship.

I may in fact run out of posts before I get the opportunity to respond to your spiritually magnificent question.

Well done mate

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Re: Why are religious people "Cafeteria" followers?
Reply #5 - Oct 12^th, 2016 at 6:11pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 12^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2016 at 4:00pm:

But Chimp,
you either love people or you hate them.

What are you going to do when you go to Venus?

well done Jethro - that is a very good question that you posed in public.

Congratulations.

I will need to think deeply about my response - but as you know I don't have much time or posts left in this place of worship.

I may in fact run out of posts before I get the opportunity to respond to your spiritually magnificent question.

Well done mate

That's right - you're splitting -

not with a bang but a whimper.

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Re: Why are religious people "Cafeteria" followers?
Reply #6 - Oct 12^th, 2016 at 11:23pm

Raven wrote on Oct 11^th, 2016 at 11:41pm:

For most religious folk they pick and choose which doctrine to follow, usually those that are in line with their own views.

So if this is the word of "god" why do they chose to ignore their god's word?

Shouldn't it be all or nothing?

We don't need a particular religion [to get a 'pass' into the kingdom of God].

We need to learn to act ethically.

That is 'the whole of the law'.

We come here, as 'a clean slate', so to speak.

We don't know what reality is.

We can only make suppositions about what reality is, and about the nature and purpose of our circumstances here.

We have physical bodies, through which we have the means experience pleasure and pain.

Throughout our lives, we learn the many ways that we can try to experience physical pleasure and try to avoid physical pain.

Q.
Is pursuing physical pleasure the highest 'good' [i.e. for you] ?

MORE.....

For me, Billy Joel said it best!

'We're only human, we're supposed to make mistakes.'

- Billy Joel

We are here to choose, and to discriminate.

That is our sole purpose in being here, imo.

Yadda said.....
Quote:

Men ought to recognise who [what] they are, and what the world is.

This world, is a place where we are constantly tempted [and seduced] by our own desires.

Everyone is seduced [corrupted] by this world.

it is in this thread.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1414815378/0#0

MORE.....

For many people, they cannot believe this.

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But for myself, this is easy to believe.

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Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

This was Jesus message to mankind.

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Isaiah 55:6
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Dictionary;
discrimination = =
1 the action of discriminating against people.
2 recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another. good judgement or taste.

AND;

Dictionary;
discriminating = = having or showing good taste or judgement.

2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Pleasure, or pain ?

Or understanding.

Proverbs 1:22
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

Proverbs 3:13
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Chimp_Logic Gold Member Offline πολιτικός Posts: 4826 Mawson Base Gender:	Re: Why are religious people "Cafeteria" followers? Reply #7 - Oct 13^th, 2016 at 9:43am Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2016 at 6:11pm: That's right - you're splitting - not with a bang but a whimper.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111572 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Why are religious people "Cafeteria" followers? Reply #8 - Oct 13^th, 2016 at 10:16am Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 13^th, 2016 at 9:43am: Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2016 at 6:11pm: That's right - you're splitting - not with a bang but a whimper. http://static.rogerebert.com/redactor_assets/pictures/scanners/prometheus-alien-... Don't Dave.
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Re: Why are religious people "Cafeteria" followers?
Reply #9 - Oct 14^th, 2016 at 2:46am

Yadda wrote on Oct 12^th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

Raven wrote on Oct 11^th, 2016 at 11:41pm:

For most religious folk they pick and choose which doctrine to follow, usually those that are in line with their own views.

So if this is the word of "god" why do they chose to ignore their god's word?

Shouldn't it be all or nothing?

We don't need a particular religion [to get a 'pass' into the kingdom of God].

We need to learn to act ethically.

That is 'the whole of the law'.

We come here, as 'a clean slate', so to speak.

We don't know what reality is.

We can only make suppositions about what reality is, and about the nature and purpose of our circumstances here.

We have physical bodies, through which we have the means experience pleasure and pain.

Throughout our lives, we learn the many ways that we can try to experience physical pleasure and try to avoid physical pain.

Q.
Is pursuing physical pleasure the highest 'good' [i.e. for you] ?

MORE.....

For me, Billy Joel said it best!

'We're only human, we're supposed to make mistakes.'

- Billy Joel

We are here to choose, and to discriminate.

That is our sole purpose in being here, imo.

Yadda said.....
Quote:

Men ought to recognise who [what] they are, and what the world is.

This world, is a place where we are constantly tempted [and seduced] by our own desires.

Everyone is seduced [corrupted] by this world.

it is in this thread.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1414815378/0#0

MORE.....

For many people, they cannot believe this.

--------- >

But for myself, this is easy to believe.

--------- >

Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

This was Jesus message to mankind.

--------- >

Isaiah 55:6
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Dictionary;
discrimination = =
1 the action of discriminating against people.
2 recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another. good judgement or taste.

AND;

Dictionary;
discriminating = = having or showing good taste or judgement.

2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Pleasure, or pain ?

Or understanding.

Proverbs 1:22
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

Proverbs 3:13
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

All well and good. If you decide you can ignore certain passages don't go quoting bible passages to justify your stance.

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