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Re: Stupid Luvvies in South Australia.. durrr
Reply #30 - Oct 5^th, 2016 at 7:33am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 2:44pm:

Game, Set and Match John

Once again others have to be embarrassed by your ignorance

Make sure you read that 'power generation for dummies' ... it'll help you immensely

the only one embarrassed is you ... where in that story does it say the windmills stopped generating power?
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Reply #31 - Oct 5^th, 2016 at 2:35pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 7:33am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 2:44pm:

Game, Set and Match John

Once again others have to be embarrassed by your ignorance

Make sure you read that 'power generation for dummies' ... it'll help you immensely

the only one embarrassed is you ... where in that story does it say the windmills stopped generating power?
Grin

"That 260MW collapse was the deliberate result of an automatic shutdown of the wind farms based in SA’s mid-North, located in the path of the storm front: the final and total collapse in SA’s power supply follows immediately thereafter."

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Reply #32 - Oct 5^th, 2016 at 3:14pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 7:33am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 2:44pm:

Game, Set and Match John

Once again others have to be embarrassed by your ignorance

Make sure you read that 'power generation for dummies' ... it'll help you immensely

the only one embarrassed is you ... where in that story does it say the windmills stopped generating power?
Grin

The wind turbines shut down in strong winds it's a safety thing.

Solar panels don't work when overcast and stormy.

Renewables are not very reliable in high or low winds with cloud cover.

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Re: Stupid Luvvies in South Australia.. durrr
Reply #33 - Oct 5^th, 2016 at 4:35pm

Belgarion wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 2:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 7:33am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 2:44pm:

Game, Set and Match John

Once again others have to be embarrassed by your ignorance

Make sure you read that 'power generation for dummies' ... it'll help you immensely

the only one embarrassed is you ... where in that story does it say the windmills stopped generating power?
Grin

"That 260MW collapse was the deliberate result of an automatic shutdown of the wind farms based in SA’s mid-North, located in the path of the storm front: the final and total collapse in SA’s power supply follows immediately thereafter."

that is referencing the wind farms in the states mid north

that 260MW collapse was the deliberate result of an automatic shutdown of the wind farms based in SA’s mid-North,

.... and the other farms? I noticed both you and 'stop these things' pretend they don't exist ... funny thing a site set up solely to stop wind farms is cherry picking it's data .. who'd a thunk it?

The stopped producing power only once the safety switch tripped. Up until that point, they were still producing power.

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Re: Stupid Luvvies in South Australia.. durrr
Reply #34 - Oct 5^th, 2016 at 5:24pm

Belgarion wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 6:41am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 9:10am:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 8:50am:

Had SA had its own power generating capacity even the collapse of 22 towers would not have blacked out the entire state. The wind turbines were not running because they are unable to deal with wind gust of more than 90kph, which occurred in that storm. This placed an extra load on the lines from Victoria which in turn shut down to avoid damage. Had SA been running its own power stations and not been reliant on a limited capacity connection from interstate the blackout would have been far less severe.

rubbish ..

at the time the safety switch tripped and caused the blackout, the turbines were running and they were generating power. You realise the wind isn't uniform across the whole state, right?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtcrBIFVYAACORi.jpg

Have a read of this and hopefully overcome your ignorance.

https://stopthesethings.com/2016/09/29/another-statewide-blackout-south-australi...

Gee, the transmission of electricity halts and the power generators aren't transmitting power. Just how gullible are you, Belgarion? Roll Eyes

It must really be annoying to see your wishful thinking and outright denial refuted by facts and figures. Grin

Where?

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Reply #35 - Oct 5^th, 2016 at 5:25pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 6:46am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 6:57pm:

cods wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 3:11pm:

they shut down the States Power Stations.. probably for votes. Cheesy

"They" were a privately owned electricity supply company that decided it could not compete against cheaper, renewable energy generators, NOT the Government. Roll Eyes

that is an outright lie...

renewable is dearer.. always has been..

the only thing making it cheaper are Tax Payer subsidies...

Talk to the ex-owners of the Port Agusta Power Station... Roll Eyes

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Reply #36 - Oct 5^th, 2016 at 5:29pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 6:48am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

I wonder if the Band of Village Idiots and their esteemed leader, Pauline Hanson will make the same comments they did about South Australia's blackout about the current blackouts in NSW and Victoria caused by wild weather?

Surely all their coal fired power stations would have prevented that from occurring? Roll Eyes

I live in Victoria and there's been no STATE WIDE blackout..

Didn't claim there was but over 10,000 customers are without power. I wonder where their coal fired generators went, which were supposed to save them from the effects of bad weather? Roll Eyes

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in a state that's been set up properly with base power you don't get that..

"Base power" or the supposed lack of that didn't cause the blackout in South Australia, any more than it has in NSW or Victoria. The bad weather did... Roll Eyes

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mind you.. the Dickhead Labor government here is trying hard to shut down our base power..

what will Victoria and South Australia do then for base power?

Smart Rocks technology? Solar-Thermal power generation? *GASP* Nuclear power generation? Who knows but coal is on it's way out for sure. Roll Eyes

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Reply #37 - Oct 5^th, 2016 at 11:53pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 4:35pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 2:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 7:33am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 2:44pm:

Game, Set and Match John

Once again others have to be embarrassed by your ignorance

Make sure you read that 'power generation for dummies' ... it'll help you immensely

the only one embarrassed is you ... where in that story does it say the windmills stopped generating power?
Grin

"That 260MW collapse was the deliberate result of an automatic shutdown of the wind farms based in SA’s mid-North, located in the path of the storm front: the final and total collapse in SA’s power supply follows immediately thereafter."

that is referencing the wind farms in the states mid north

that 260MW collapse was the deliberate result of an automatic shutdown of the wind farms based in SA’s mid-North,

.... and the other farms? I noticed both you and 'stop these things' pretend they don't exist ... funny thing a site set up solely to stop wind farms is cherry picking it's data .. who'd a thunk it?

The stopped producing power only once the safety switch tripped. Up until that point, they were still producing power.

Yes, the safety switch tripped, which would not have happened to a power source unaffected by wind. The same thing happened to all SAs wind farms over the course of the day. Once more, slowly....wind farms must operate within narrow limits ....limits that were exceeded across SA that day.

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Reply #38 - Oct 6^th, 2016 at 3:03pm

Belgarion wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 11:53pm:

Yes, the safety switch tripped, which would not have happened to a power source unaffected by wind. The same thing happened to all SAs wind farms over the course of the day. Once more, slowly....wind farms must operate within narrow limits ....limits that were exceeded across SA that day.

Yet, in NSW and Victoria the otherday, which are dependent on "a power source unaffected by wind", tens of thousands of customers lost power. Gee, I wonder what caused that? The wind perhaps? Nah, they had coal fired power stations... Roll Eyes

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Reply #39 - Oct 6^th, 2016 at 6:24pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 6^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 11:53pm:

Yes, the safety switch tripped, which would not have happened to a power source unaffected by wind. The same thing happened to all SAs wind farms over the course of the day. Once more, slowly....wind farms must operate within narrow limits ....limits that were exceeded across SA that day.

Yet, in NSW and Victoria the otherday, which are dependent on "a power source unaffected by wind", tens of thousands of customers lost power. Gee, I wonder what caused that? The wind perhaps? Nah, they had coal fired power stations... Roll Eyes

Exactly, they had coal fired power stations that could take up the load in spite of the weather conditions. They did not depend entirely on a source of power that cannot work when its too windy. Roll Eyes

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Reply #40 - Oct 6^th, 2016 at 9:55pm

Belgarion wrote on Oct 6^th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 6^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 5^th, 2016 at 11:53pm:

Yes, the safety switch tripped, which would not have happened to a power source unaffected by wind. The same thing happened to all SAs wind farms over the course of the day. Once more, slowly....wind farms must operate within narrow limits ....limits that were exceeded across SA that day.

Yet, in NSW and Victoria the otherday, which are dependent on "a power source unaffected by wind", tens of thousands of customers lost power. Gee, I wonder what caused that? The wind perhaps? Nah, they had coal fired power stations... Roll Eyes

Exactly, they had coal fired power stations that could take up the load in spite of the weather conditions. They did not depend entirely on a source of power that cannot work when its too windy. Roll Eyes

So, then, what caused their power blackouts, Belgarion?

Gee, was it a loss of the power grid? Gee, isn't that what happened in South Australia? Roll Eyes

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