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Re: Another massive crowd for Trump
Reply #45 - Oct 15th, 2016 at 7:34pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 15th, 2016 at 7:32pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2016 at 7:29pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 15th, 2016 at 7:10pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 15th, 2016 at 6:59pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2016 at 6:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 15th, 2016 at 6:51pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2016 at 6:47pm:
Hillary won't either, Homo. I doubt anyone will. The US is slowly declining.

Believe it or not though, the most prosperous period for the US in living memory was during Bill Clinton's "it's the economy, stupid" administration.
So you'd rather the failed status quo over Trump.


That's a cliche, Homo. Do you know what it means?

Try telling us what you mean by status quo - and what you mean by failed.
Same old same old dear.  Roll Eyes Failed leftist socialist treacherous governments. Like the last Labor Party or Merkal's government. The same ones who look after any minority rather  than the white majority.


I see. So what are Hillary's policies, Homo? I've just addressed some of Trump's.

What does Hillary say she'll do? I've asked Herbie and Sprint, but they didn't answer.

Do you know?
She's about to fill America up with loads of Syrian refuges who will never integrate and will produce terrorists. She will not fix America's southern border which is responsible for a load of their crime. Nothing will get fixed. It's the same thing they have now. deterioration.


No, Homo, tell us her economic and criminal policies.

Cheers.
I'm only interested in her social policies. She's a globalist do-gooder dear.


You're not interested?

So why did you just ask me how Hillary will fix the situation?
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Re: Another massive crowd for Trump
Reply #46 - Oct 15th, 2016 at 7:57pm
 
Oh look, you've gone.

Here's what Wikipedia has to say on Hillary's economic policy.

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Economic policy[edit]According to Vox, Clinton was more liberal on economic issues than President Barack Obama and former President Bill Clinton, and had a more liberal voting record than Obama when they both served in the United States Senate.[20]

According to a report by Moody's Analytics on Clinton's 2016 economic proposals, "Secretary Clinton's economic policies when taken together will result in a stronger U.S. economy under almost any scenario."[21] Clinton's proposals would, if enacted, create 10.4 million jobs during a four-year presidential term (3.2 million more than expected under current law).[21] GDP growth would be 2.7%, as opposed to the 2.3% expected under current law.[21] The report noted that her immigration proposal would increase the number of skilled workers in the economy, her infrastructure spending would help business productivity, and her paid family leave proposal would bring more people into the workforce.[21][22]

According to a Financial Times survey of economists, roughly 70% of the economists polled between July 28–29 said a Clinton victory in November would be positive for U.S. economic growth (compared with just under 14% for Trump).[23] According to a survey of National Association for Business Economics (NABE) members, 55% of business economists feel that Clinton would do the best job as president of managing the U.S. economy (with 15% choosing Gary Johnson, 15% saying that they did not know or did not have an opinion, and 14% choosing Donald Trump).[24] According to a survey by the Wall Street Journal, 13 of the 20 former Democratic members of the White House Council of Economic Advisers openly support Clinton, and none of the 20 oppose her.[25]

Clinton's "infrastructure plan has been widely praised by economists across the political spectrum."[26] However, John H. Cochrane, an economist at the conservative Hoover Institution, argues that Clinton's infrastructure spending plan would have limited effects on economic growth.[27] He has also said that "a President Trump 'could be responsible for more lost jobs than anyone.'"[28]

The 2016 Clinton campaign's in-house economic advisors include Michael Shapiro and Michael Schmidt, who worked on economic policy in the Obama administration at the National Economic Council and Treasury Department, respectively.[29][30] The campaign's external advisory group includes Princeton professor Alan Krueger, former Treasury official and former chairperson of the U.S. Council of Economic Advisers; Princeton professor Alan Blinder, a member of the Council of Economic Advisers and a Federal Reserve official in the 1990s; liberal Columbia professor Joseph Stiglitz, a Nobel laureate, former World Bank chief economist and chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, and prominent critic of free-market fundamentalism and the management of globalization; MIT professor Simon Johnson, a former chief economist of the IMF; Duke professor Aaron Chatterji; Berkeley professor Christina Romer, a former chair of the Council of Economic Advisers in the Obama administration; and Heather Boushey, an expert on inequality and paid family leave who serves as the executive director and chief economist of the Washington Center for Equitable Growth.[30][31][32][33]


I won't go into the tax and financial reforms. Suffice to say, another GFC could happen right now if Hillary doesn't do something about the sub-prime market, which has reared its ugly head again.

Obama's had no luck with the Republican congress, so there went that idea. Now they look like they'll lose that majority because of Trump, so Hillary may have a golden opportunity to regulate the banks.

Will she? Who knows? It's just her policy. What's Trump's?

Here's Wikipedia again.

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Trump's signature economic policies are the raising of tariffs, across-the-board tax cuts, the dismantling of the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, the repeal of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare"), and opposition to changing entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare.


So what do the agencies have to say? Moody's were surprisingly benign to Hillary."Secretary Clinton's economic policies when taken together will result in a stronger U.S. economy under almost any scenario."

On Trump?

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According to a report by Moody's Analytics, released in June 2016, the implementation of Trump's stated economic policies would make the U.S. economy "significantly weaker"

According to a September 2016 report by the independent and non-partisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, Trump's economic policies would increase the national debt by $5.3 trillion.[50]


Read that again. Trump's economic policies alone will raise the US deficit by
$5.3 trillion.


What were you saying about deterioration?
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Re: Another massive crowd for Trump
Reply #47 - Oct 15th, 2016 at 8:00pm
 
Now crime. Note the reform to mandatory sentencing and mass incarceration.

Good luck with that, Hillary. Obama hasn't had a fair go.

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Crime[edit]Clinton summarizes her key proposals on criminal justice reform as follows:[430]

"End the era of mass incarceration, reform mandatory minimum sentences, and end private prisons."
"Encourage the use of smart strategies — like police body cameras — and end racial profiling to rebuild trust between law enforcement and communities."
"Help formerly incarcerated individuals successfully re-enter society."
According to PolitiFact, Clinton "focuses more on what happens before prison (such as sentencing of people not currently incarcerated) and after prison (especially reintegrating ex-convicts into society after they are released) than actually releasing current inmates."[430] As for releasing current inmates, Clinton focuses on nonviolent offenders.[76]

In 2000, during a Senate debate in Manhattan, Clinton voiced her support for drug courts to address drug abuse problems when she stated, "We need more treatment [for drug addicts]. It is unfair to urge people to get rid of their addiction and not have the treatment facilities when people finally make up their minds to get treatment."[431]

In 2001, Clinton co-sponsored legislation that would create more tracking and harsher sentences for hate crimes.[432]

In a speech in April 2015, Clinton said that body-worn cameras for police should be "the norm everywhere."[433] During the same speech, she also urged an end to excessive prison sentences that burden black communities.[433] She said that reform of mandatory sentencing laws are "long overdue" and criticized the militarization of police.[432]

In March 2016, when asked about the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 signed into law by Bill Clinton that she supported at the time, she said that "there were some aspects that worked well" including violence against women provisions, but she noted that other portions related to increasing incarceration "were a mistake."[434][435] In 1994, she referred to the bill as a "very well-thought-out crime bill that is both smart and tough,"[432] and voiced support for three strikes laws when she stated "We need more police, we need more and tougher prison sentences for repeat offenders. The three strikes and you're out for violent offenders has to be part of the plan."[436] According to the Marshall Project's reporting, Clinton's position on the 1994 crime bill started to shift in a 1998 column as she picked and chose "from the crime bill's legacy, emphasizing the gun-control measures, prevention programs for juveniles, and funding for more police officers, without mentioning the law's contributions to mass incarceration."[432]

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Reply #48 - Oct 15th, 2016 at 8:07pm
 
Here's a subject close to our hearts, Homo. Drugs.

Drugs and drug laws are a state issue, so I'm not holding my breath. Still, at least Hillary has policies. Try asking Trump his.

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Drug policy[edit]During her 2016 presidential campaign, Clinton has proposed a $10 billion plan, much of which would be funded by the federal government, intended to treat addicts, increase emergency responders' access to a life-saving rescue drug targeting overdoses, and curb incarceration for nonviolent drug offenses.[439]

Clinton supports diversion programs such as treatment-focused drug courts,[440] saying in 2007: "Non-violent offenders should not be serving hard time in our prisons. They need to be diverted from our prison system."[441]

Sentencing disparities[edit]While in the Senate, Clinton has supported reducing the sentencing disparity that currently punishes crack cocaine crimes more harshly than powder cocaine crimes, and in 2015, Clinton called for eliminating the disparity, saying: "We're talking about two forms of the same drug. It makes no sense to continue treating them differently."[442][443] (A 1986 federal law created a 100:1 power-crack disparity; the Fair Sentencing Act of 2010 reduced this to an 18:1 disparity).[442][443] While campaigning in 2007, Clinton did not support making the elimination of the sentencing disparity retroactive, but in 2015 she expressed support for making change retroactively as well as prospectively.[442]

Marijuana[edit]Clinton supports rescheduling marijuana, legalizing medical marijuana, and the right of states to legalize recreational marijuana. She has called for greater research on the subject. Her views on marijuana were described in 2015 as similar to the "cautious, leave-it-to-the-states strategy" of the Obama administration.[444]

In May 2007, Clinton suggested the federal government was being "excessive" in its approach to patients who used medical marijuana. The following month, while campaigning in New Hampshire, Clinton has said she would end federal raids against such patients in states where the use of marijuana for medical purposes is legal.[445] In June 2014, Clinton said that on medical marijuana, "I don't think we've done enough research yet. Although I think for people who are in extreme medical conditions and have anecdotal evidence that it works, there should be availability under appropriate circumstances. But I do think we need more research, because we don't know how it interacts with other drugs."[444] On recreational marijuana, which has been legalized in Colorado and a few other states, Clinton said: "states are the laboratories of democracy. We have at least two states that are experimenting with that right now. I want to wait and see what the evidence is."[444]

In April 2016, Clinton stated that she favored the removal of marijuana from Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act, which would make scientific studies of the substance significantly easier.[446] Clinton also stated: "We have enough anecdotal evidence ... about what marijuana can do for medical conditions, easing pain. And we need to be doing research on it because I am 100 percent in favor of medical uses for marijuana. But I want to know what the evidence is."[446] In her 2016 policy position on marijuana, Clinton says that she supports rescheduling marijuana to Schedule II; "allowing states that have enacted marijuana laws to act as laboratories of democracy, as long as they adhere to certain federal priorities such as not selling to minors, preventing intoxicated driving, and keeping organized crime out of the industry"; and "focus[ing] federal enforcement resources on violent crime, not simple marijuana possession."[447]

Opioid crisis[edit]While campaigning for the presidency, Clinton has hosted forums on the opioid addiction crisis in the United States,[448] listing it as a top concern.[449] Clinton has pledged to make substance-abuse treatment, including medication-assisted treatment, available to more addicts.[449][450] Clinton also has pledged to make naloxone (Narcan), an antidote to opioid overdose, available to all police departments.[449]

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Reply #49 - Oct 15th, 2016 at 8:31pm
 
Alright, we'll ask Trump his.

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Trump's views on drug policy have shifted dramatically over time.[417]

At a luncheon hosted by the Miami Herald in April 1990, Trump told a crowd of 700 people that U.S. drug enforcement policy was a "a joke," and that: "We're losing badly the war on drugs. You have to legalize drugs to win that war. You have to take the profit away from these drug czars."[418][419]

In his campaign for the presidency in 2015 and 2016, however, Trump adopted "drug warrior" positions[418] and has sought advice on the issue from William J. Bennett, who served as the U.S. first "drug czar" in the 1980s "and has remained a proponent of harsh 1980s-style drug war tactics."[420] Trump told Sean Hannity in June 2015 that he opposes marijuana legalization and that "I feel strongly about that."[418]


Good to see Trump feel strongly about something. What were you saying about the failed status quo again?

Let's ask Trump.

In 1990: "We're losing badly the war on drugs. You have to legalize drugs to win that war."

In 2015: He opposes marijuana legalization, wants to ramp up the war on drugs, and says,"I feel strongly about that".

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
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Reply #50 - Oct 15th, 2016 at 9:44pm
 
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Reply #51 - Oct 15th, 2016 at 10:23pm
 
Yes, that's right. Trump has a policy on Hillary. He plans to put her in jail.

Make Amerikan great again.
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Reply #52 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:38pm
 
Ee-gad, where's Homo?
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Reply #53 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 4:30pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
Ee-gad, where's Homo?


Could relate to the problem with peace rates ? Those being paid on a per post basis may go quiet for a while.
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Reply #54 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 5:01pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 4:30pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
Ee-gad, where's Homo?


Could relate to the problem with peace rates ? Those being paid on a per post basis may go quiet for a while.


I must admit, I couldn't afford Homo's salary.

Those trainees in aged care get Newstart benefits.

Beyond my humble means, Homo, sorry.
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Reply #55 - Oct 23rd, 2016 at 9:31pm
 

Cleveland Ohio - Trump speaks to crowded I-X centre


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Reply #56 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 2:50am
 
Discount the media and look at all those people!
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Reply #57 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 7:20am
 

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...........Look at last night. He was in Cleveland. He had 10,000 people in Cleveland. You know, Hillary and -- and Tim Kaine, they were in Pennsylvania. They had 600 people in a gym...........


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/23/eric_trump_polls_are_wrong_you...
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Reply #58 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 7:21am
 

marla,
I assume that was not at a trump rally.
Just some guy setting up his own support area.

I cant even see images of hillarys meetings.
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Reply #59 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 8:46am
 
Sprinty, has it ever occurred to you people go to Trump rallies much in the same way people stare at train wrecks?
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