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Reply #15 - Sep 30^th, 2016 at 8:15am

Richdude wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 1:56am:

If you are interested in the truth you have to go past MSM.
MSM controls the narrative and most believe that narrative. The media is not honest it is a tool.
What Trump actually says is what you should be listening to, not some lie or fabrication. Only a couple of days the story was put out by MSM that Trump was calling for 2nd amenders to assassinate Hillary - of course he said nothing of the sort. Such is the hysteria in the media and you're a fool to believe such nonsense.

Well, what he actually said implied exactly that...

“If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” Mr. Trump said, as the crowd began to boo. He quickly added: “Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”,,,

It was a throwaway line for sure and it was reported as an implication of assassination, but it reveals Trump's gross naivety in that, as a very high profile public speaker (running for President of the US no less), he does not comprehend that his utterances mean more than the usual bullshit they would ordinarily mean... This is just one of the obvious personality faults common with sufferers of narcissistic personality disorder...

But what if Trump's plan is not to win the Presidency? After all, Trump would have some inkling of the narrow path he will be forced to walk down were he to become the President... That walk would be impossible for an individual as damaged as Trump.

Trump's best outcome would actually be 'glorious defeat' (something Australians identify with and celebrate it in our own culture whenever we can!)... Its somewhat of an Irish trait.

The payoff is that the 'gloriously defeated' get the moral latitude to say almost whatever they want and be respected for it... Imagine how much that would boost Trump's business interests, while easing the fear of everything he's ever done being analysed (under an electron microscope!) by every official and non-official investigating organisation in the world.

I mean... former defeated Presidential contenders... Kudos to them... But who cares about them enough to analyse their lives to the 14th decimal place?

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Reply #16 - Sep 30^th, 2016 at 12:56pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 8:15am:

Richdude wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 1:56am:

If you are interested in the truth you have to go past MSM.
MSM controls the narrative and most believe that narrative. The media is not honest it is a tool.
What Trump actually says is what you should be listening to, not some lie or fabrication. Only a couple of days the story was put out by MSM that Trump was calling for 2nd amenders to assassinate Hillary - of course he said nothing of the sort. Such is the hysteria in the media and you're a fool to believe such nonsense.

Well, what he actually said implied exactly that...

“If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” Mr. Trump said, as the crowd began to boo. He quickly added: “Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”,,,

That's a totally MSM fabricated crock of BS, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear into the hearts minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that.

But so what, just like the phoney gun laws they propose, the law abiding 99.99+% of American gun owners wouldn't even consider that.

Now, that said, if someone actually does pick her off.....oh well, there's always Joey Biden to take over for them.

Sure, America will grieve, then pick themselves up, dust themselves off, & get back to livin' life the American way a few minutes later. There's an election to be had boy, that's goin' on come hell or high water.

Life goes on..........

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Reply #17 - Sep 30^th, 2016 at 4:58pm

Panther wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

That's a totally MSM fabricated crock of BS, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that.

No that's what he actually said...

It was clearly a throwaway line that may or may not have been a jocular reference to assassination.

What is important is that Trump is clearly not aware of the fact that public figures (like Presidents and Presidential wannabes) are not so 'free' as the non-public in what they should and should not say.

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Reply #18 - Sep 30^th, 2016 at 5:36pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 4:58pm:

Panther wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

That's a totally MSM fabricated crock of BS, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that.

No that's what he actually said...

It was clearly a throwaway line that may or may not have been a jocular reference to assassination.

Trump never ever said anyone should assassinate Clinton.....& that's a fact that you can't refute........full stop!

A sick, wild interpretation by leftard idiots, with too much time on their hands, is what the goosestepping Clintonites have chosen to cling to........a figment of their own fertile, sick, imaginations.....nothing else.

The false story that Trump called for NRA members to assassinate Clinton, splendid idea or not, was just a feeble minded MSM fabrication, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear into the minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that, but it was not what Trump actually meant......

Trump meant that NRA & Second Amendment supporters votes combined, in the right places, could resolve the issue......whereas Americans know that a small swing of votes could very well be the deciding difference (Obama didn't win by very much in 2012, & not only that, the number of votes isn't as important as where those votes are actually cast because America isn't a most votes wins democracy).

George Bush won the 2000 election, even though Al Gore had more votes than he did.......the key to the Bush victory was in what state did they vote......where the votes were cast, & not how many numerically there were in total.

Americans vote for members in an Electoral College, who in turn vote for a President.

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The United States Electoral College is the institution that elects the President and Vice President of the United States every four years. Citizens of the United States do not directly elect the president or the vice president; instead they elect representatives called "electors", who usually pledge to vote for particular presidential and vice presidential candidates.

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Reply #19 - Sep 30^th, 2016 at 10:13pm

Panther wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 4:58pm:

Panther wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

That's a totally MSM fabricated crock of BS, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that.

No that's what he actually said...

It was clearly a throwaway line that may or may not have been a jocular reference to assassination.

Trump never ever said anyone should assassinate Clinton.....& that's a fact that you can't refute........full stop!

A sick, wild interpretation by leftard idiots, with too much time on their hands, is what the goosestepping Clintonites have chosen to cling to........a figment of their own fertile, sick, imaginations.....nothing else.

The false story that Trump called for NRA members to assassinate Clinton, splendid idea or not, was just a feeble minded MSM fabrication, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear into the minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that, but it was not what Trump actually meant......

Trump meant that NRA & Second Amendment supporters votes combined, in the right places, could resolve the issue......whereas Americans know that a small swing of votes could very well be the deciding difference (Obama didn't win by very much in 2012, & not only that, the number of votes isn't as important as where those votes are actually cast because America isn't a most votes wins democracy).http://www.smileyfaze.tk/smileys/doh.png

George Bush won the 2000 election, even though Al Gore had more votes than he did.......the key to the Bush victory was in what state did they vote......where the votes were cast, & not how many numerically there were in total.

Americans vote for members in an Electoral College, who in turn vote for a President.

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The United States Electoral College is the institution that elects the President and Vice President of the United States every four years. Citizens of the United States do not directly elect the president or the vice president; instead they elect representatives called "electors", who usually pledge to vote for particular presidential and vice presidential candidates.

Awww Panther you old pansy!

Editing your original post to this degree!

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Reply #21 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 8:31am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 10:13pm:

Panther wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 4:58pm:

Panther wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

That's a totally MSM fabricated crock of BS, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that.

No that's what he actually said...

It was clearly a throwaway line that may or may not have been a jocular reference to assassination.

Trump never ever said anyone should assassinate Clinton.....& that's a fact that you can't refute........full stop!

A sick, wild interpretation by leftard idiots, with too much time on their hands, is what the goosestepping Clintonites have chosen to cling to........a figment of their own fertile, sick, imaginations.....nothing else.

The false story that Trump called for NRA members to assassinate Clinton, splendid idea or not, was just a feeble minded MSM fabrication, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear into the minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that, but it was not what Trump actually meant......

Trump meant that NRA & Second Amendment supporters votes combined, in the right places, could resolve the issue......whereas Americans know that a small swing of votes could very well be the deciding difference (Obama didn't win by very much in 2012, & not only that, the number of votes isn't as important as where those votes are actually cast because America isn't a most votes wins democracy).http://www.smileyfaze.tk/smileys/doh.png

George Bush won the 2000 election, even though Al Gore had more votes than he did.......the key to the Bush victory was in what state did they vote......where the votes were cast, & not how many numerically there were in total.

Americans vote for members in an Electoral College, who in turn vote for a President.

Quote:
The United States Electoral College is the institution that elects the President and Vice President of the United States every four years. Citizens of the United States do not directly elect the president or the vice president; instead they elect representatives called "electors", who usually pledge to vote for particular presidential and vice presidential candidates.

Awww Panther you old pansy!

Editing your original post to this degree!

Which would you rather have, incorrect information....I know your used to that suckling on the hind teet of the Goose-Stepping Left all the time....or would you rather have clear & concise facts like the finished product I left you & everyone else to read?......Can't deal with truth & honesty can you North.....you haven't changed one bit.....still subscribing to lies.....some things never change.

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Reply #22 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 9:06am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 26^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

What is it about the psychologically damaged, motor-mouthed salesman that so easily captivates Americans?

From religious holy-rollers/ cultists to their secular equivalent - the 'self-help' latter-day shamans - to (now invading) the Presidential election process (which started with ‘Neo-Christians’ turning their minds from the selfless love needed to be a true Christian to the - anti-Christian - notion of getting and holding of raw power).

Americans just do not seem to have the Kryptonite needed to resist and defeat the siren sales songs of these bizarre psycho-pathological demagogues until they’re wrecked on the rocks of inanity.

Seriously… So many Americans seem not only unable to resist ‘the call’, they seem pathologically unable to detach themselves from the ‘Peter Pan/ Alice in Wonderland’ idealism that these nutjob charismatics evoke, even when it’s clear that the line they’re racing towards isn’t the horizon, it’s a cliff edge.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/26/opinion/why-donald-trump-should-not-be-preside...

First of all, let's talk inanities. We have one right here. Its the endless, and ignorant comparisons of the USA with Australia. Australia's demographic is based on tiny 19th Century British colonies. That is why we have corner fish&chip joints, and USA does not. The USA has a population of 318,000,000!!!! It has been at the center of world power for 150 years. We have never had one big issue in our history. Sorry to disappoint, but we do not compare.

As for Trump, his aggressive rhetoric won him the nomination. And intelligent people might have thought when the campaign reached the debates, he would use the opportunity to present cohesive policies to address his concerns. If the first debate was any indication, he is not going to present policy. His presence with HC was not a debate, he simply dished up his usual unsupported accusations.

What Trump does not understand, is that he does not need to attack HC to gain votes, he needs to present the way he is going to do things. For all his bluster, I see a deeply insecure individual who is at the end of his rope. He is not getting better at this, he's getting worse, and his campaign is starting to look like a melt down.

If HC wins this election, the Republican Party is in serious trouble, just as the Democrats were in 1860. Trump is their creation. Not one of their many candidates was prepared to take on the issues that Trump capitalized on. Why? Because none of them has a frigging clue how to deal with the world today, other than to bomb someone. HC is no different, but all she has to do is play Miss nice-nice and the Democrats have it.

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Reply #23 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 9:27am

Richdude wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 3:03am:

"If its Hillary its WAR"! Says Putin
Do you really want war North! Hillary is a warmonger (its good for business - her business). And you think Trump is crazy??

http://www.morningledger.com/world-war-3-vladimir-putin-declares-war-if-hillary-clinton-wins/1381015/

Name a period in post WW2 history where the US is not at war...

Would it be during Jimmy Carter's Presidency when he imagined that all Americans wanted was peace?... And after he gave it to them, how long was it before he was despised (even by friends) for being weak.

I think its true to say that the US (at least since WW2) has always needed someone to hate...

As for the US cowering to what a foreign head of state throws out there... Dunno (I'm guessing you're the American here) but does the idea that Americans fear the babblings of Putin seem unlikely to you?

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Reply #24 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 9:35am

Panther wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 8:31am:

Which would you rather have, incorrect information....I know your used to that suckling on the hind teet of the Goose-Stepping Left all the time....or would you rather have clear & concise facts like the finished product I left you & everyone else to read?......Can't deal with truth & honesty can you North.....you haven't changed one bit.....still subscribing to lies.....some things never change. Wink

The goose stepping left???

Anyway, as I said...

Because Presidents (and Presidential wannabes) for better or worse are judged by a higher and exponentially more rigorous standard that Joe Anyone, jokes with double meanings are more likely to be taken literally at their worst case... All politicians know this.

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Reply #26 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 10:34am

Richdude wrote on Sep 28^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

AiA wrote on Sep 27^th, 2016 at 12:38am:

Heard a radio interview this morning of an ex-American soldier who thought the country needed "a bull in a China shop" so is supporting Trump.

That ex-soldier was right!

America was way way overdue for a shake up.

Wake the f... up you fools!

If that is all you want I suppose electing a nutter will work.

Hell of a lot of risk in other areas though.

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Reply #27 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 11:19am

Ahhh ... now I know why some on here are such Trump fans

When republican presidential nominee Donald Trump claimed former Miss Universe Alicia Machado had a “sex tape” some tried and failed to find evidence.

What reporters did find was that Trump himself had made an appearance in a softporn film.

Buzzfeed claimed Trump featured in a softcore Playboy classic called ‘Centerfold’ starring the Bernaola Twins.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/32777911/check-out-her-sex-tape-trump-unleashes-onli...

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Reply #28 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 11:22am

issuevoter wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 9:06am:

First of all, let's talk inanities. We have one right here. Its the endless, and ignorant comparisons of the USA with Australia. Australia's demographic is based on tiny 19th Century British colonies. That is why we have corner fish&chip joints, and USA does not. The USA has a population of 318,000,000!!!! It has been at the center of world power for 150 years. We have never had one big issue in our history. Sorry to disappoint, but we do not compare.

Not sure anyone's comparing Australia with the US as much as seeing the world through our own filters... Not really possible to do much else.

But now you've got me wondering (in a 'Douglas Adams' kind of way!), if its not all down to fish and chips! Is this the opening theory in a yet-to-be-written 'Hitchhikers Guide to Cultural Supremacy'?

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