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Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam?
Reply #45 - Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:24am

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2016 at 3:55pm:

Tell me FD, would you call accusing me of "lying" because I said something that you disagree with - a lie?

Would you describe blatantly misrepresenting me by claiming the 3 articles I posted were to prove the resolutions were reported on - when in fact I couldn't have been more clear that thats not why I posted them - a lie? And what do you call continual evasion about this and your inability to concede that what you said was patently false? Would you call it hypocricy, and/or perhaps irony?

I disagree because it is a lie Gandalf.

freediver wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 16^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

FD what "blatant lies" have I resorted to?

Would you call insisting you provided information, including links, about the two resolutions on your home page article a lie? Or would you like to go on the record that it was an honest mistake on your part? Either way the information you insisted was there is not.

I just thought its prudent to mention this while you are throwing the accusation of lying at me.

Here you are quoting that information from the home page Gandalf:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 18^th, 2016 at 7:09pm:

The two major parties have broken promises they made twice to the Australian public in order to secure these seats. These promises took the form of Senate resolutions on 22 June 2010 and 29 June 1998. Both resolutions passed with bipartisan support and stated that the Senate will use the new, fairer method to determine which senators get full (6 year) terms in the event of a double dissolution election.

And here you are, again, yesterday and today, telling the same lie, despite my repeated efforts to point out the obvious to you.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 19^th, 2016 at 1:58pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

Contrary to Gandalf's repeated assertions, I provided information about the two resolutions on the home page of this website.

And I'll assert it again. There is no information.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Indeed I am. Confused as to why you would so stubbornly persist with the lie that you provided any links or information about the two resolutions in the OP article on the home page:

Gandalf, is there any possible way to interpret this other than you telling the same lie, over and over again, despite me repeatedly pointing out that it was a lie, and you even providing the relevant quote from the site home page to show that it is a lie?

Are you going to explain the difference for us between a brief description and whatever other excuse you offered recently?

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Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam?
Reply #46 - Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:29am

freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

I disagree because it is a lie Gandalf

Just to clarify, this is me lying is it?...

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I think calling it a 'broken promise' is a stretch. The last resolution was made in 2010 and since then the senate has changed twice. How beholden is the current, new senate to this resolution? Its debatable in my book.

Have you completely lost the plot?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam? Reply #47 - Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:32am FD if thats a lie, what do you call claiming I posted the three articles to prove the resolutions were reported on - when I specifically said I posted them to show the August 12 vote was reported on? You haven't answered this. Why are you evading this? Are you worried about acknowledging yourself as a hypocrite?
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Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam?
Reply #48 - Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:41am

Just to clarify, one more time, this is you lying Gandalf:

freediver wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 16^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

FD what "blatant lies" have I resorted to?

Would you call insisting you provided information, including links, about the two resolutions on your home page article a lie? Or would you like to go on the record that it was an honest mistake on your part? Either way the information you insisted was there is not.

I just thought its prudent to mention this while you are throwing the accusation of lying at me.

Here you are quoting that information from the home page Gandalf:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 18^th, 2016 at 7:09pm:

The two major parties have broken promises they made twice to the Australian public in order to secure these seats. These promises took the form of Senate resolutions on 22 June 2010 and 29 June 1998. Both resolutions passed with bipartisan support and stated that the Senate will use the new, fairer method to determine which senators get full (6 year) terms in the event of a double dissolution election.

And here you are, again, yesterday and today, telling the same lie, despite my repeated efforts to point out the obvious to you.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 19^th, 2016 at 1:58pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

Contrary to Gandalf's repeated assertions, I provided information about the two resolutions on the home page of this website.

And I'll assert it again. There is no information.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Indeed I am. Confused as to why you would so stubbornly persist with the lie that you provided any links or information about the two resolutions in the OP article on the home page:

Gandalf, is there any possible way to interpret this other than you telling the same lie, over and over again, despite me repeatedly pointing out that it was a lie, and you even providing the relevant quote from the site home page to show that it is a lie?

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Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam?
Reply #49 - Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:45am

Oh, you seem to have missed this one FD:

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Gandalf's lie #6: Reneging on two bipartisan senate resolutions is not a broken promise
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1473556559/77#77

Are you dropping it now?

You also missed the one where I mistakenly called the resolutions "legislation" - and acknowledged my mistake straight away. Not a lie anymore?

FD would you say calling those two 'lies' - a lie itself?

How much more can we wittle the list down?

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51271 At my desk.	Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam? Reply #50 - Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:47am Quote: You also missed the one where I mistakenly called the resolutions "legislation" - and acknowledged my mistake straight away. Not a lie anymore? If you would like to explain which ones are deliberate lies and which ones are honest mistakes, go ahead. I suspect you don't really care either way.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam? Reply #51 - Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:48am How many FD lies are we up to in this thread? Are you keeping count of those FD?
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Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam?
Reply #52 - Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:51am

freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:47am:

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You also missed the one where I mistakenly called the resolutions "legislation" - and acknowledged my mistake straight away. Not a lie anymore?

If you would like to explain which ones are deliberate lies and which ones are honest mistakes, go ahead. I suspect you don't really care either way.

Lies are deliberate by definition FD. Disagree? No worries, just notch that up as another gandalf lie I guess.

So I'm wondering, what do you call your bs claim I posted the 3 articles to prove the resolutions were reported on? Lie, or honest mistake? Would you like to explain that? I suspect you don't really care either way.

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Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam?
Reply #53 - Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:51am

Have you whittled this one down yet Gandalf?

freediver wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 16^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

FD what "blatant lies" have I resorted to?

Would you call insisting you provided information, including links, about the two resolutions on your home page article a lie? Or would you like to go on the record that it was an honest mistake on your part? Either way the information you insisted was there is not.

I just thought its prudent to mention this while you are throwing the accusation of lying at me.

Here you are quoting that information from the home page Gandalf:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 18^th, 2016 at 7:09pm:

The two major parties have broken promises they made twice to the Australian public in order to secure these seats. These promises took the form of Senate resolutions on 22 June 2010 and 29 June 1998. Both resolutions passed with bipartisan support and stated that the Senate will use the new, fairer method to determine which senators get full (6 year) terms in the event of a double dissolution election.

And here you are, again, yesterday and today, telling the same lie, despite my repeated efforts to point out the obvious to you.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 19^th, 2016 at 1:58pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

Contrary to Gandalf's repeated assertions, I provided information about the two resolutions on the home page of this website.

And I'll assert it again. There is no information.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Indeed I am. Confused as to why you would so stubbornly persist with the lie that you provided any links or information about the two resolutions in the OP article on the home page:

Gandalf, is there any possible way to interpret this other than you telling the same lie, over and over again, despite me repeatedly pointing out that it was a lie, and you even providing the relevant quote from the site home page to show that it is a lie?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam? Reply #54 - Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:55am So we're officially down to 4 are we FD? Just like to confirm that before we go any further, cause here you had the count at 8: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1474078271/34#34 Are you saying you lied in that post about how many lies I made?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam? Reply #55 - Sep 24^th, 2016 at 8:57am lol scratch that - make that 10, not 8 We're down to less than half in just 2 pages.
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Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam?
Reply #56 - Sep 24^th, 2016 at 10:28am

The Grand Mufti of Australia (WTF???) responds to a poll that says 49 per cent of Australians want a ban on Muslim immigration because Muslims don't assimilate.

He doesn't understand the irony of having to use Arabic to call for better "communication" - since he still hasn't mastered English after 19 years in Australia.

Unbelievable. Hilarious and sinister at the same time -like so many other aspects of what this guy represents.

'Better communication', 'respect' and all the rest is a one way street with Islamics.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam? Reply #58 - Oct 9^th, 2016 at 6:57pm Unforgiven wrote on Sep 19^th, 2016 at 7:27pm: Freediver is a hate propagator and instigator. He turns every thread he enters into a hate rant. What - something like an anti-British hate rant do you mean?
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Re: Does this reflect badly on Islam?
Reply #59 - Oct 9^th, 2016 at 7:00pm

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2016 at 10:28am:

The Grand Mufti of Australia (WTF???) responds to a poll that says 49 per cent of Australians want a ban on Muslim immigration because Muslims don't assimilate.

He doesn't understand the irony of having to use Arabic to call for better "communication" - since he still hasn't mastered English after 19 years in Australia.

Unbelievable. Hilarious and sinister at the same time -like so many other aspects of what this guy represents.

'Better communication', 'respect' and all the rest is a one way street with Islamics.

A couple of nights ago on the news there was an Arabic woman who's been in Australia for 50 years and needed a translator. That's got to be some sort of record.

She couldn't understand simple questions being put to her by a journalist, and when her translator told her the question, she couldn't give simple answers.

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