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Aug 2nd, 2016 at 6:19pm
 
What a lovely place.

This is what happens when Islam gains total political control over the population.

This is the moment three young couples were savagely whipped in public - after they violated Sharia law by going on dates.

Harrowing pictures show one woman crying out as she is repeatedly lashed with a cane at Al Furqon Mosque in the city of Banda Aceh, Indonesia.

Separate images show a man standing as he received the same brutal punishment.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3717829/Whipped-public-just-daring-date-Unmarried-couples-flogged-violating-Sharia-law-Indonesia.html#ixzz4GA37hDmI
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Reply #1 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 6:46pm
 
Looks to be more symbolic than anything, no skin broken. Ive seen bigger floggings with a wet lettuce leaf. In Saudi they would stone you to death for the same offence. Im presuming these people knew the law before they broke it.
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Reply #2 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 6:50pm
 
http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Faith_Ratchet#Aceh

The spread of Islam west across North Africa and into Spain, as well as east to Pakistan, closely reflects the 'faith ratchet' presented here. Islam did however spread much further east, and today there are large numbers of Muslims in places like Indonesia and Malaysia. This eastern spread lacks the initial military conquest and 'top down' imposition of Islam that makes the current Western extent of Islam match the original Caliphate so closely. The more recent spread into Southeast Asia may be partly due to a clash of cultures in which Muslims from the west had more advanced technologies - similar to European conquest of the new world, but on a much smaller scale due to the less significant cultural differences. Islam has a much shorter history in the east than it does in the territory captured by the first Caliphate.

The spread of Islam without political imposition is not without doctrinal precedent. Muhammed's early career shows his effective promotion of Islam from a very weak political position. During this time Muhammed preached what could (very loosely) be described as pacifism and tolerance. Modern (and historical) Muslims that find themselves as small minorities tend to present this face of Islam. It was not until Muhammed gained unchecked power that the 'rape and pillage' aspects of Islam were revealed. There is clear doctrinal guidance for interpreting the apparent contradiction: the later, more violent aspects 'abrogate' (ie, replace) the earlier more tolerant aspects. Although the illusion of pacifism is shattered by terrorist attacks in the west, modern Muslims spreading Islam in the west employ many of the strategies used in Muhammed's early career, as did those who spread Islam east from Pakistan. Modern Muslims for example manage to claim victimhood status in the west despite the high death toll from their co-religionists.

Aceh province in Indonesia is a good example of this process. Aceh was the first place that Muslims settled in South East Asia. Although modern Aceh is associated with violent Islamic separatist movements and one of the most traditional and conservative Islamic societies [27], it was originally settled by Sufi Muslims. Sufism is the 'inner, mystical dimension' of Islam. Sufis are generally regarded as more peaceful and tolerant - almost the 'Hare Krishna' version of Islam (with some notable exceptions [28]). It is ironic then that today, Sufis in Aceh face the dual threat of bans on their schools (and the basis of blasphemy) and terrorist attacks [29].
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Reply #3 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 7:26pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 6:46pm:
Looks to be more symbolic than anything, no skin broken. Ive seen bigger floggings with a wet lettuce leaf. In Saudi they would stone you to death for the same offence. Im presuming these people knew the law before they broke it.


Deserved it?
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Reply #4 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 7:49pm
 
Is this Islamic?
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Reply #5 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:15pm
 
Gordon wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 7:26pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 6:46pm:
Looks to be more symbolic than anything, no skin broken. Ive seen bigger floggings with a wet lettuce leaf. In Saudi they would stone you to death for the same offence. Im presuming these people knew the law before they broke it.


Deserved it?
They cane people far worse in non Islamic Singapore for graffitti offences. Im personally in favour of public caning here in Australia for some offences.
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Reply #6 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:21pm
 
It should be nobody else's business if a couple go on a date before they get married.

Muslims are crazy.
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Reply #7 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:24pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:21pm:
It should be nobody else's business if a couple go on a date before they get married.

Muslims are crazy.


Karnal thinks the muslims in Aceh are chilaxed because they smoke pot.
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Reply #8 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:25pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:21pm:
It should be nobody else's business if a couple go on a date before they get married.

Muslims are crazy.
Yeah, and people shouldnt go to jail for 20 years for marijuana possession. Its a crazy world.
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Reply #9 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:32pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:15pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 7:26pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 6:46pm:
Looks to be more symbolic than anything, no skin broken. Ive seen bigger floggings with a wet lettuce leaf. In Saudi they would stone you to death for the same offence. Im presuming these people knew the law before they broke it.


Deserved it?
They cane people far worse in non Islamic Singapore for graffitti offences. Im personally in favour of public caning here in Australia for some offences.


I doubt it would work in Australia. As Gordy’s articles show, it’s about shaming, not hurting.

If you did that in Australia, "offenders" would just laugh.

Just don’t do it to kids in detention, okay?
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Reply #10 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:34pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:32pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:15pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 7:26pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 6:46pm:
Looks to be more symbolic than anything, no skin broken. Ive seen bigger floggings with a wet lettuce leaf. In Saudi they would stone you to death for the same offence. Im presuming these people knew the law before they broke it.


Deserved it?
They cane people far worse in non Islamic Singapore for graffitti offences. Im personally in favour of public caning here in Australia for some offences.


I doubt it would work in Australia. As Gordy’s articles show, it’s about shaming, not hurting.

If you did that in Australia, "offenders" would just laugh.

Just don’t do it to kids in detention, okay?


Here we go.  Everybody does it. Divert divert divert.
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Reply #11 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:38pm
 
They are already cracking down on what women can wear, and extending shariah law to non-Muslims. Not much fun in a tropical environment. It's all downhill from here. They'll be bleeding soon enough.
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Reply #12 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:42pm
 
The 60-year-old Christian woman was publicly caned for selling alcohol

In an unprecedented use of Shari‘a on a non-Muslim in Indonesia, a Christian woman in the conservative Aceh province has reportedly been caned for selling alcohol.

The 60-year-old woman was caned 30 times in the presence of hundreds of onlookers on Tuesday, an official told Agence France-Presse

http://time.com/4291832/indonesia-aceh-christian-muslim-sharia-law-alcohol/
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Reply #13 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:45pm
 
On the same day, a pair of German tourists were reportedly reprimanded by local authorities and let off with a warning for wearing bikinis at one of the province’s beaches.
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Reply #14 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:50pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:38pm:
They are already cracking down on what women can wear, and extending shariah law to non-Muslims. Not much fun in a tropical environment. It's all downhill from here. They'll be bleeding soon enough.


I agree. I thought of visiting, but didn’t want to get around in trousers and long sleeves.

The inability to find a beer’s a bit of a turn-off too.

What sort of tourist destination’s that? I’d rather visit the laid-back beaches of Bangladesh or Pakistan.
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