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It is difficult to exaggerate just how weak Malcolm Turnbull is right now.

On Tuesday, with the announcement of the Royal Commission, he looked as a leader should, decisive and strong. Today, with one of the most pathetic press conferences I have seen from a prime minister, delivering a decision on Kevin Rudd entirely dictated by the right of his party, he shrank back to the pitiful size he has been for so many of the recent months.

A similar pattern was on show a couple of weeks ago, when Turnbull talked tough on superannuation. Next came soundbites along the lines of “Oh, there are always changes, though.” Then we got right-winger George Christensen saying there absolutely would be changes or he’d be crossing the floor.

Step 1: A tough, articulate PM doing what he thinks is right. Step 2: The conservative wing of his party reminding him who’s boss. Step 3: A chastened prime minister saying “I’m sorry, master, I don’t know what I was thinking.”

As I’ve said before, many prime ministers are useless in their first 12 months, and go on to do very well.

But if Turnbull wants to improve, he is going about things the wrong way. The more he displays his weakness, the weaker he becomes. The conservatives gain confidence that he is their plaything, and the public loses confidence that he can hold his own in a tight spot. Both, right now, are absolutely correct.

Unfortunately for Turnbull, the difficulty is not just that he is acting like he’s in a weak position. The problem is that he really is in a weak position. With the probable loss this week of the seat of Herbert (unless a legal challenge goes ahead), he has the barest majority possible – 76 seats – to hold government in his own right. That puts Christensen and his mates in a powerful position. A threat to cross the floor actually means something. The government’s ability to pass legislation becomes uncertain. Turnbull’s capacity to put his foot down and make demands shrinks to a tiny dot.

Turnbull announced today that the government would not be nominating Kevin Rudd for the job of UN Secretary-General. Typically, he did this in the most roundabout fashion possible, telling Cabinet he would make the decision himself, and that he would call Rudd. All of this took almost an entire extra day. At about midday ,Turnbull finally delivered his decision to the public. This dithering delay ensured the decision was shrouded in a greater mystique and sense of circus than it already was.

Then, making the announcement, Turnbull had nothing to say. Genuinely nothing – especially given the decision itself had already been leaked to Laurie Oakes. He declined to offer any reasons whatsoever other than the fact he had decided Rudd was not “well-suited” to the job, though, he said, he did not mean to disparage Rudd. A less sincere statement is hard to imagine. It was extraordinary. The man is turning non-press-conference press conferences into an artform.

And sure, yes, I can see the logic. Turnbull wants us to accept that the decision was made on the basis of Rudd’s personality, and, further, that he did not want to hurt Rudd’s feelings any more by public going into detail. But let’s be honest: the decision itself humiliates Rudd. If Turnbull believed this was an important decision – and his painfully extended contemplation suggests he did – then he should have explained it.

In the end, the decision humiliated Turnbull almost as much as it humiliated Rudd. Or at least it should have.

Put aside your own feelings, whatever they might be, about whether Rudd should have got the job. That decision is over. What will have lasting consequences for politics in Australia is why Turnbull made the decision he made. And the reason is sadly simple: he is terrified of the right wing of his party.

This is obvious because Julie Bishop, the foreign minister and deputy leader of the Liberal Party, was recommending that Rudd be nominated. It is a significant decision to overrule her on this, especially with other heavy hitters like Arthur Sinodinos on her side. That is a decision that comes from fear.

You can also see this in the risk Turnbull took with Bob Katter, whose vote he will depend on if Christensen and others make good on their threats. Katter had warned that if Rudd was not nominated Katter “would have to reconsider [his] friendship with the Turnbull government”. But Turnbull made the admittedly numerate decision that there are more Coalition conservatives than there are Bob Katters.

No doubt Turnbull believed this was a decision on which he could afford to kowtow to the right, given it wasn’t a question of policy per se. But this is the problem with his approach right now: each time he moves he has one eye, and often both, on internal politics.

It didn’t work for his first nine months. It won’t work now. More importantly, it’s no way to run a country. And it won’t hold up for long.

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Reply #1 - Jul 29th, 2016 at 11:28pm
 
Yes he is getting weaker. He shows no leadership skills at all. Whatever personality he once had is gone. What is really annoying is his repeated comment "There's never been a more exciting time to be an Australian". He can speak for himself - being a multimillionaire and PM of Australia. He has no idea how the other half live.

The same goes for this farce of a Royal Commission.
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Reply #3 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 8:30am
 
mantra wrote on Jul 29th, 2016 at 11:28pm:
Yes he is getting weaker. He shows no leadership skills at all. Whatever personality he once had is gone. What is really annoying is his repeated comment "There's never been a more exciting time to be an Australian". He can speak for himself - being a multimillionaire and PM of Australia. He has no idea how the other half live.

The same goes for this farce of a Royal Commission.



which one mantra?.... he hasnt anointed one yet?..

if you are talking about this..

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It almost defies belief but right here in Australia there is a prison system that locks up 10 year olds and places children as young as thirteen in solitary confinement.

"This is barbarism, this is inhumane, this is child abuse." Lawyer

Children have been confined to an isolation wing with no access to sunlight or running water.

"Those cells were ghoulish, they were something medieval." Lawyer

Some held for weeks on end, deprived of basic necessities.



then I am shocked you would call it a farce... Sad


I do not dislike turnbull but I do not believe in rewarding deceit... and I will not accept him as PM....at least lets say I would never vote for him to be PM....

so far this election has been a non event.. a fiasco if you like..  so I think he needs to be given a fair go in that regard....the bloody election still isnt cut and dried...



god whos in charge?.
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Reply #4 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 8:53am
 
cods wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 8:30am:
which one mantra?.... he hasnt anointed one yet?..

if you are talking about this..


Cods they've already decided on the terms of reference and appointed the NT chief justice Brian Martin to head the inquiry - a man who has allegedly displayed racism in an earlier sentencing. He's had the power and influence to do something about these detention centres over the past decade - but has turned a blind eye.

We could just as easily - more cheaply and effectively had an investigation by the Federal police or child welfare services and charges laid. There will be no charges laid as a result of a royal commission being led by the man who sent these boys there in the first place.

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Brian Martin, the former NT Supreme Court Chief Justice, achieved infamy among Aboriginal communities in April 2010 when he described five white youths who bashed an Aboriginal man to death in a racially charged drunken rampage as “of otherwise good character”.

The youths – Scott Doody, Timothy Hird, Anton Kloeden, Joshua Spears and Glen Swain – spent the night getting drunk at the local casino, before driving up and down the dry bed of the Todd River, where homeless Aboriginal people sleep.

They abused campers, fired a replica pistol with blank ammunition at them, and ran over at least one swag (owned by an elderly man) with their vehicle.

Eventually, the boys stopped and beat Kwementyaye Ryder, aged 33, to death after he threw a bottle at their car as they drove at him.


This is why it's a farce

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It’s also infamous for the response of the community – three days after Mr Ryder was killed, a local resident started selling ‘Alice Springs White Power’ t-shirts from his vehicle outside the local Council chambers and police station.

The same day as the shirts went on sale, the Alice Springs Town Council passed new by-laws empowering council rangers to fine Aboriginal people for begging, and to throw out blankets homeless people stored in bushes in the riverbed to keep them warm in the freezing Central Australian winter.

But the killing is most infamous for the amount of time the five young men ending up serving.

Chief Justice Martin sentenced one of the men to as little as 12 months. The longest time served was four years.

One of Justice Martin’s justifications for the light sentences was that the youths would be caused ‘additional hardship’ in prison, given the overwhelming majority of inmates are Aboriginal.


https://newmatilda.com/2016/07/28/nt-juvenile-detention-abuse-royal-commissioner...
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Reply #5 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 8:58am
 
cods wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 8:30am:
I do not dislike turnbull but I do not believe in rewarding deceit... and I will not accept him as PM....at least lets say I would never vote for him to be PM....

so far this election has been a non event.. a fiasco if you like..  so I think he needs to be given a fair go in that regard....the bloody election still isnt cut and dried...

god whos in charge?.


At the moment no-one knows who's in charge, but it's possible that it's Dutton, Abetz and Morrison.
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Reply #6 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 9:00am
 
Turnbull was weak to begin with, not much between him and that other plonker Krudd.
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Reply #7 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 9:05am
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 9:00am:
Turnbull was weak to begin with, not much between him and that other plonker Krudd.


Good point, but at least Rudd could communicate with the Chinese and when Darwin Port becomes an ant's nest as the new lessees ramp up their import/exports - we might need someone who can communicate with them. Turnbull won't be any help.
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Reply #8 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 9:20am
 
mantra wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 9:05am:
Fuzzball wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 9:00am:
Turnbull was weak to begin with, not much between him and that other plonker Krudd.


Good point, but at least Rudd could communicate with the Chinese and when Darwin Port becomes an ant's nest as the new lessees ramp up their import/exports - we might need someone who can communicate with them. Turnbull won't be any help.

ummmmmmmmmmmm

I am not sure what good that does....the Chinese do what the Chinese do.... regardless...... they are afraid of no one..and if you think Rudd has special powers believe me mantra he isnt the only one who can speak Chinese.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 9:29am
 
So no link? Afraid to show us your source?
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Reply #10 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 10:09am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 9:29am:
So no link? Afraid to show us your source?


Click on the heading in Bam's post AP....

"Turnbull becoming weaker by the day"

Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 9:29am:
So no link? Afraid to show us your source?

It is highlighted in
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in the heading of the OP, as I do with every article I quote. I've never had anyone complaining before that they couldn't find the link despite my making it obvious. If you're still not able to work out that maroon text on this forum are links, that's not my problem.
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Reply #12 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 10:14am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 10:09am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 9:29am:
So no link? Afraid to show us your source?


Click on the heading in Bam's post AP....

"Turnbull becoming weaker by the day"

Smiley Smiley Smiley


PMSL. Armchair has made a right fool of himself by not being able to locate such an obvious link.
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Reply #13 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 10:22am
 
Bam wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 10:14am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 10:09am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 9:29am:
So no link? Afraid to show us your source?


Click on the heading in Bam's post AP....

"Turnbull becoming weaker by the day"

Smiley Smiley Smiley


PMSL. Armchair has made a right fool of himself by not being able to locate such an obvious link.


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Reply #14 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 10:23am
 
Turnbull is stuffed....He relies on every vote to pass his legislation in the HOR and the Senate is even more fractious....The alternative is for him to do a deal with the ALP and we know how that worked last time....Could we see a "New Tony Abbott" who has learnt from his mistakes???

Wink Wink Wink
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