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Reply #30 - Jul 29^th, 2016 at 9:45am

Swagman wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:26am:

stunspore wrote on Jul 28^th, 2016 at 11:59am:

Privatisation is profit for some.

Privatisation means the Government can do more for less.

Therefore Privatisation is a defacto tax cut

That's why lefties don't like Privatisation, as most lefties don't pay much tax, preferring to bludge off the minority that pays the majority of tax.

That's also why Lefties constantly whinge about mythical 'structural' deficits and tax cuts to 'the rich' because they deem that because they pay hardly any tax that they are somehow missing out on something..... Grin

Nonsense.

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Reply #31 - Jul 29^th, 2016 at 3:41pm

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 28^th, 2016 at 11:04am:

Bam wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 10:39pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 10:33pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 3:30pm:

If you bother to actually read ALL of his comments, he is still a PROPONENT of privatisation, but has instead pointed out some fo the failures eg Vocational education. However, his comments about electricty privatisation were dead wrong. Most govt electricity assets were in bad state of maintenance and govt was unwilling to spend what was needed for the future. Also, the reliability of the network soared AFTER privatisation.

Like most things, privatization is neither intrinsically right nor wrong. it is HOW i is done, not the notion itself. As for the idiots who think all industry should be run by the government, I am glad you dont get to choose.

What a load of rubbish. I never experienced an unreliable network under the SEC. Under the private scammers I've seen a 22kV line literally fall off a power pole which could have easily killed someone simply because there is no preventative maintenance. It's a case of wait till it fails or kills someone before they do anything. Also they are stingy with their street lighting now.

How many lives were lost in Victoria in 2009 as a consequence of insufficient maintenance of power lines? 119 at least.

Rogue poll involving two major incidents that stand alone... that's like saying the Teneriffe air crash was indicative of a total failure of air travel.

I have made no such assertion.

It's correct to remind people that insufficient maintenance of power lines by a privatised power network has caused fires and many deaths. Would these deaths have occurred if privatisation had not occurred 15 years previously?

You are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to hold opinions that you can defend through sound, reasoned argument.

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Reply #32 - Jul 29^th, 2016 at 4:18pm

Swagman wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 9:04am:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:47am:

No government has ever had a a mandate to sell the peoples property to a private entity.

Every Govt has a mandate to do exactly that, otherwise they wouldn't be the Govt. Grin

Belgarion wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:47am:

We have all seen the deterioration of these services when profit rather than the interest of the people becomes the driving factor.

The very fact that the vast proportion of the economy is private enterprise is testimony to the incorrectness of this statement. Roll Eyes

You fail to understand the difference between normal private enterprise and the private ownership of utilities that people are dependent on.
You also fail to understand what a mandate is.
Look at your power bill and note the rate of increase since privatisation. This is blatant profiteering. Utilities belong to the people, not to private enterprise.

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Voltaire.....(possibly)

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Privatisation has damaged economy: ACCC chief Reply #33 - Jul 30^th, 2016 at 3:21pm Interesting... has anyone called him a racist or a redneck yet? One Nation from its very beginning said the same things and that all Essential Services should never be sold off or privatized. ESs should remain in government hands. But hey, what would ON know right.
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Reply #34 - Jul 30^th, 2016 at 3:34pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 30^th, 2016 at 3:21pm:

Interesting... has anyone called him a racist or a redneck yet? One Nation from its very beginning said the same things and that all Essential Services should never be sold off or privatized. ESs should remain in government hands. But hey, what would ON know right.

just a guess on my part, but they probably weren't referring to her policy on privatisation when they called her a redneck Cheesy

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #35 - Jul 31^st, 2016 at 4:35pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 11:16am:

I think they have fixed terms like most statutory officers.
Moreover, he has been the most effective ACCC leader ever. Compare him with the wimps of the past who never said boo to Woolworths & Coles.

And I would agree that there are areas that should remain in govt control.
But the trouble is the unions, which of course you won't agree with.
Union control + public ownership = inefficiency + poor service.

BTW I live in NSW and my electricity bill hasn't doubled in five years. In fact deregulation of retail providers has given us the opportunity to shop around for better deals.

Don't know who said bills were going to double in 5 years. Do you have a link? The only thing I recall is Bairds 'iron clad guarantee' my bill would be lower in 2 years than before privatisation. Mind you , that was before the shonk took his own appointed regulator to court to stop him lowering charges. The people of NSW deserve it though for believing the crook in the first place. Sad

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