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We Can No Longer Ignore Taxpayer Exploitation
Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:25am
 
It's a sad indictment of our flawed democracy (ochlocracy) that the majority at the ballot box that pay the minority of tax exploit the minority at the ballot box that pay the majority of tax.

Roughly 1 in 4 taxpayers pay the Lion's share of the cost of Govt.  Sad

Stronger protections are needed to stop the cycle of abuse among overtaxed taxpayers.

If you think taxpayer exploitation is only happening overseas in richer nations then you’d be wrong. It is happening right here in Australia, on our doorstep, in the so called lucky country.

Taxpayer mistreatment is becoming an all-too-common horror story in Australia. From agriculture to hospitality, retail, construction and everything in between, the increasing pervasive control of socialists over vulnerable taxpayers' earnings show that better protections are needed.

Socialist giants such as the ACTU and its political arms the ALP & Greens (and Senate) have been publicly shamed for abusing the Budget and taking unfair advantage of vulnerable taxpayers by trading protected individual rights for higher porkbarreling and decreased take home pay.

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Reply #1 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:30am
 
Get another horse, willya?

That one's dead.
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Reply #2 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:45am
 
Kat wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:30am:
Get another horse, willya?

That one's dead.


Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin....

Taxpayer abuse is much more prevalent than 'worker' abuse.
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Reply #3 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:55am
 
Swaggie just wants the wealth to improve from the oft quoted 1% of the population has more wealth than the other 99%

To be 0.5% of the population having more wealth than the other 99.5%

Much fairer eh Swag

(Before some d1ckhead races in and questions my figures, figures quoted are an example based on the USA I believe, but good old Oz wont be a lot different)

Ochlocracy,   Ochlocracy,  Ochlocracy,  Oi,   Oi, Oi!   Grin
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Reply #4 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:58am
 
I agree Swag....John Howard and Peter Costello pork barrelling and introducing socialist policies like the baby bonus, CGT, Negative Gearing and subsidising private health insurance is the reason our budget is in structural deficit....The problem is no Government has the guts to take away what is now considered a right by the public....The tax take is not the problem it is where it is being wasted to buy votes for the major parties!!!

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Reply #5 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:12am
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:55am:
Swaggie just wants the wealth to improve from the oft quoted 1% of the population has more wealth than the other 99%

To be 0.5% of the population having more wealth than the other 99.5%

Much fairer eh Swag



I didn't mention wealth Reddy......just tax.

But what individuals do with the money that they earn has FA to do with the State as long as it's legal anyway.  If one chooses to work longer and harder and earn more brass, then one shouldn't be extorted by those lazy ones that choose not to, and prefer to pee their (or other people's) money up the wall.

You could have 2 individuals on exactly the same income for 50 years, one wastes all his cash whilst the other saves and accumulates wealth.  At retirement, one has to continue to pay for the other idiot, and that other idiot will have the hide to whinge that he's not getting enough services and pension and vote accordingly with all the other majority idiots (that's an ochlocracy Reddy  Cheesy).
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Reply #6 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:24am
 
I think the best option is to simply "trick your brain" and see the tax you pay as part of your "spirit of contribution".

i have seen a lot of guys who became successful through years of grinding it out and then they just lost the momentum.they were 'done with it".
Once you get into that narrative, once you become a cry baby or indulge in self pity, it flows through and contaminates everything you are trying to achieve.

most of them became a trainwreck from adopting this position.

laziness is destructive to those at the bottom, but laziness is even more destructive to those at the top.
It is an addiction. Once you get addicted to laziness, you are gone. i would rate addiction to laziness as the number 1 reason for successful people falling off the narrow road to success.

so with regards paying tax, we must do what we always do...

accept it, enjoy it and even become enthusiastic about it.

because , in work an in life, it matters nought what you get, all that matters is 'what you become".

humans can take on the characteristic of any animal.
i pay a lot of tax and i see myself as the noble wolf.
people in leech mode, i just see them as parasites .

they are going nowhere, where as i am powering ahead.

i look at how they live their lives and to be honest, i think its just retarded  Wink
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Reply #7 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:34am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:58am:
I agree Swag....John Howard and Peter Costello pork barrelling and introducing socialist policies like the baby bonus, CGT, Negative Gearing and subsidising private health insurance is the reason our budget is in structural deficit....The problem is no Government has the guts to take away what is now considered a right by the public....The tax take is not the problem it is where it is being wasted to buy votes for the major parties!!!

Angry Angry Angry


I don't disagree that the baby bonus is socialism Phil, but the structural deficit is a myth AND and CGT, Negative Gearing and subsidising private health insurance are just the return of stolen goods / shuffling deck chairs.

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Reply #8 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:47am
 
Swagman wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:12am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:55am:
Swaggie just wants the wealth to improve from the oft quoted 1% of the population has more wealth than the other 99%

To be 0.5% of the population having more wealth than the other 99.5%

Much fairer eh Swag



I didn't mention wealth Reddy......just tax.

But what individuals do with the money that they earn has FA to do with the State as long as it's legal anyway.  If one chooses to work longer and harder and earn more brass, then one shouldn't be extorted by those lazy ones that choose not to, and prefer to pee their (or other people's) money up the wall.

You could have 2 individuals on exactly the same income for 50 years, one wastes all his cash whilst the other saves and accumulates wealth.  At retirement, one has to continue to pay for the other idiot, and that other idiot will have the hide to whinge that he's not getting enough services and pension and vote accordingly with all the other majority idiots (that's an ochlocracy Reddy  Cheesy).


Paying tax is a duty of a citizen in a civilised democracy like ours Swag.

Perhaps you should move to some impoverished African country  with little or no rule of law and see how you go.
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Reply #9 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:52am
 
Swagman wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:34am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:58am:
I agree Swag....John Howard and Peter Costello pork barrelling and introducing socialist policies like the baby bonus, CGT, Negative Gearing and subsidising private health insurance is the reason our budget is in structural deficit....The problem is no Government has the guts to take away what is now considered a right by the public....The tax take is not the problem it is where it is being wasted to buy votes for the major parties!!!

Angry Angry Angry


I don't disagree that the baby bonus is socialism Phil, but the structural deficit is a myth AND and CGT, Negative Gearing and subsidising private health insurance are just the return of stolen goods / shuffling deck chairs.

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Na....Allowing taxpayers to claw back all their taxes and subsidising the private sector is corporate welfare....Everyone has access to public health and education so the Government has a duty to provide these services to the taxpayer....The private sector should not receive taxpayer wealthfare!!!

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Reply #10 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:17am
 
Swagman wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:25am:
It's a sad indictment of our flawed democracy (ochlocracy) that the majority at the ballot box that pay the minority of tax exploit the minority at the ballot box that pay the majority of tax.

Roughly 1 in 4 taxpayers pay the Lion's share of the cost of Govt.  Sad

Stronger protections are needed to stop the cycle of abuse among overtaxed taxpayers.

If you think taxpayer exploitation is only happening overseas in richer nations then you’d be wrong. It is happening right here in Australia, on our doorstep, in the so called lucky country.

Taxpayer mistreatment is becoming an all-too-common horror story in Australia. From agriculture to hospitality, retail, construction and everything in between, the increasing pervasive control of socialists over vulnerable taxpayers' earnings show that better protections are needed.

Socialist giants such as the ACTU and its political arms the ALP & Greens (and Senate) have been publicly shamed for abusing the Budget and taking unfair advantage of vulnerable taxpayers by trading protected individual rights for higher porkbarreling and decreased take home pay.

Cheesy Grin


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Reply #11 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:20am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:52am:
Everyone has access to public health and education


As they do to public transport but public transport fares aren't geared to one's income (concessions aside).

Full fare is full fare whether you're on $20K or $500K PA

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:52am:
Allowing taxpayers to claw back all their taxes and subsidising the private sector is corporate welfare


The private sector doesn't.  It pays justabout all the tax so rebates are just a smidgen return of their stolen rewards.

How much tax does the public sector pay?  ZERO.

If someone pays $20K in income tax and gets a $500 private health insurance rebate they still pay $19.5K in tax, that's hardly "clawing back all their taxes"?

The rebate is an incentive to pay into a private fund that IS subsidising the public health system and SAVING the taxpayer money.
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Reply #12 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:46am
 
Kat wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:30am:
Get another horse, willya?

That one's dead.


Like a zombie, swaggy keeps raising this poor animal from the dead.

What about the amount of our taxes that go to propping up all the multi-nationals???

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Reply #13 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:58pm
 
yeh Swag is, and always, misguided on this one.

Does not really know the meaning of exploitation.
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Reply #14 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 1:10pm
 
Lobo wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:46am:
Kat wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:30am:
Get another horse, willya?

That one's dead.


Like a zombie, swaggy keeps raising this poor animal from the dead.

What about the amount of our taxes that go to propping up all the multi-nationals???



You Pinkos are the ones that resurrect the politics of envy whinge at every occasion.....I just counter it  Cheesy



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