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Re: Another one
Reply #90 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:39pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:22pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 7:35pm:

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Because the notion of human rights isn't just for the west. And when it's obvious they people are under regimes that 1) deny human rights and 2) can't be overthrown then it's the duty of all of us, every person, to stand up together.

And sing Kumbayah? Or.......whinge, wail, gnash teeth, beat chests.....invade.....what?

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Not doing so perpetrates this idea that human rights are only for the well off white western world. The rest can go fck themselves? Well... According to Aussie anyway, seems he's okay with people dying, as long as they aren't white.

Duke, where does that come from? You seem to have a binary view and also, apparently, seek to impose it on everyone else. Tell me, what are you doing about the rights of Eskimo women?

What's the grey in universal human rights, exactly?

Perhaps it is time you set them out in detail. The floor is yours, Duke.

Un human rights charter.

Any objections?

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Another one Reply #91 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:45pm News just in: 44 dead in Syria due to IS car bomb. Regressives, new hashtag please! Last one didn't seem to work.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39650 Gender:	Re: Another one Reply #92 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:51pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:45pm: News just in: 44 dead in Syria due to IS car bomb. Regressives, new hashtag please! Last one didn't seem to work. Isn't there a War going on there?
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Reply #94 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:54pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:45pm:

News just in: 44 dead in Syria due to IS car bomb.

Regressives, new hashtag please! Last one didn't seem to work.

Isn't there a War going on there?

And who's winning? Or you're okay with universal human rights being denied as long as "there's a war going on there?"

So, Aussie, is the un human rights charter a good standard to set for the meaning of universal human rights? What's grey in it? Or are you okay with rights denied as long as it's "them" and not "us", a fundamentally rascist view.

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Another one Reply #95 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:58pm What about all the good things Hitler did?
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Reply #96 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 9:00pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:45pm:

News just in: 44 dead in Syria due to IS car bomb.

Regressives, new hashtag please! Last one didn't seem to work.

Isn't there a War going on there?

And who's winning? Or you're okay with universal human rights being denied as long as "there's a war going on there?"

There are very few rights in a War, Duke. Both sides get to beat the schit out of each other until there is one still standing.

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So, Aussie, is the un human rights charter a good standard to set for the meaning of universal human rights? What's grey in it?

I've just put up a link. ^^^^^^^ Is that what you are referring to?

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Or are you okay with rights denied as long as it's "them" and not "us", a fundamentally rascist view.

We need to agree on a list of these Rights before I can answer that Duke.

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Reply #97 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 9:08pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 9:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:45pm:

News just in: 44 dead in Syria due to IS car bomb.

Regressives, new hashtag please! Last one didn't seem to work.

Isn't there a War going on there?

And who's winning? Or you're okay with universal human rights being denied as long as "there's a war going on there?"

There are very few rights in a War, Duke. Both sides get to beat the schit out of each other until there is one still standing.

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So, Aussie, is the un human rights charter a good standard to set for the meaning of universal human rights? What's grey in it?

I've just put up a link. ^^^^^^^ Is that what you are referring to?

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Or are you okay with rights denied as long as it's "them" and not "us", a fundamentally rascist view.

We need to agree on a list of these Rights before I can answer that Duke.

You are terrible at Google Aussie. "UN human rights charter." Not hard.

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Another one Reply #98 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 9:10pm Its time wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:58pm: What about all the good things Hitler did? Such as?
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39650 Gender:	Re: Another one Reply #99 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 9:11pm .
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Reply #100 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 9:12pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 5:11pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 10:21pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 10:14pm:

No......I simply say that the State of Israel ought not be where we plonked it. 'Tasmania' is a metaphor which I guess went right over your head.

And whys that?

You put a mongoose into a snake pit and what do you reckon is the likely outcome? A love-in?

Israel is not a mongoose because Israel has no interest in attacking Islamic countries. It isn't the Jewish people who hate Muslims, it's the other way around.

For a country that has "no interest", it seems to have expanded his borders rather considerably from what the UN decreed they should be in 1948. It also seems to have undertaken several wars of aggression against it's neighbours - 1956/1982/etc. Roll Eyes

Well perhaps if the fascism didn't exist in the Middle East then Israel would have no need to feel threatened. Of course Israel is not innocent in all actions and definitely the settlements have to be stopped, but when we look at the overall aggression in the region, all of it stems from the hatred over Jewish people. 1956 - Israel believed it was going to be attacked. 1967, the region waged war, 1982, who fired the first shots? I know, I know, you don't like Israel. But it's the root cause they always matters: not just your hatred for Israel.

I am still unsure why you associate Islam with Fascism when the two are not interconnected in any way. Indeed, Fascism has it's original roots in Christianity.

You acknowledge that Israel is paranoid. Perhaps with reason by it has exploited the situation it has found itself in and greatly expanding it's borders. It has also decided that ethnic cleansing through colonisation is a valid policy and how it should act towards the people under it's care through it's occupation of the Occupied Territories. This is not tolerable, anywhere else in the world (remember what Bush Senior said about it in 1990?) but apparently acceptable to Washington in Palestine. You don't seem to see that this is contributing to and perhaps even causing the hatred of the Israelis amongst the Arab population. Roll Eyes

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39650 Gender:	Re: Another one Reply #101 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 9:14pm Aussie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:53pm: These, Duke? Link. Oi....Dukey??????? Did you see this before you made a tit of yourself?
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Another one Reply #102 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 9:14pm Aussie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 9:11pm: Perhaps, given how terrible I am at Google, you ought put up the link to your own material? http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/ Aren't you a lawyer? How do you not know the universal human rights?
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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: Another one Reply #103 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 9:15pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 9:10pm: Its time wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 8:58pm: What about all the good things Hitler did? Such as? He got the remaining jews moved to Israel, rather than Tasmania?
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Reply #104 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 9:15pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 5:19pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27^th, 2016 at 4:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 10:24pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 10:21pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 10:14pm:

No......I simply say that the State of Israel ought not be where we plonked it. 'Tasmania' is a metaphor which I guess went right over your head.

And whys that?

You put a mongoose into a snake pit and what do you reckon is the likely outcome? A love-in?

Israel is not a mongoose because Israel has no interest in attacking Islamic countries. It isn't the Jewish people who hate Muslims, it's the other way around.

Really......what was that little glitch in 1967? Have you ever read the comments of Mr Hicks about the neighbours of Israel?

what glitch? The arabs invaded and got their butts handed to them.

The "Arabs" failed to cross the border of the modern State of Israel. Hardly an invasion... Roll Eyes

Its the intent that counts, not whether they did or not. The preemptive strikes stopped them.

Wrong. There was no intent in 1956. The 1956 was a war that was manufacture - conspired by Israel, the UK and France in order to try and grab back the Suez Canal from the Egyptian people. This has been clearly laid out in all the history books written since then. The Egyptians didn't even have batteries in their tanks - having removed them to charge them - when the Israelis attacked in a completely unprovoked manner. Roll Eyes

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