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Re: Church hostage takers killed in Rouen
Reply #105 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:34pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:44am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:35am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:06am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:50am:
issuevoter wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 7:54am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 26th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
A terrible event, and I feel for the family of that poor dead priest.

However, what sort of God would let a priest be killed in such a horrific manner, in a Church?

Surely this makes people question their faith   Undecided





This looks like another one of Svengalis reincarnations.


Makes you wonder hey.

Totally insane and not ontopic.


"not ontopic" ?

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I think you're in the wrong thread, darling.
It isn't breath. You went from a priest getting his throat slit to questioning the Christian faith. From relevant to irrelevant.


When you introduce religion, it's relevant yet, when others introduce religion it isn't relevant?

Oh no my boy, it doesn't work that way.

You and your fellow Islamophobes are all about "apportioning blame", so I'll play your game.

How much blame do we apportion to God for letting this happen?

A priest, in a Church, FFS!

What was God doing when this poor bugger was having his throat slit - chasing Pokemon?






For someone who pretends to be so knowledgeable, as well as claiming to have read the Bible, it is amazing that you think the death of a priest is going to cause people to lose faith.

What do you think happened to Peter? What do you think happened to Paul? What do you think was the fate of many of Jesus' followers in the early church? And speaking of Jesus, even God's own son was crucified.

I don't give a crap what you personally believe. I don't think you even know what you believe. The way you jump from one position to another from thread to thread on this forum shows that you have absolutely no grounding in anything. But it is amazing that you can be so ignorant of the history of Christianity to think that one victim of an evil worshipping killer is going to cause people to lose faith. 

One of the central messages at the foundation of Christianity is that people choose to do evil, and God will allow people to act on the evil in their heart until the day of judgement. This man who killed this priest did evil and will one day be judged for it. That's what Christianity holds to, so there is no need for a loss of faith.

Of course, had you ever read a history book and ever read the bible (like you claim to have) you would know this. But all you have ever read are Doctor Who books and STI pamphlets, as you are an  uneducated, unemployed, pervert, and nothing more.
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Reply #108 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:35pm
 
... wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:01pm:
The problem for france is that their armed forces are about as french as their soccer team, 


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... wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:01pm:
so they cannot be trusted to do what must be done, as  their loyalties lie elsewhere.


All Hail to Multiculturalism, Diversity, and 'Difference'!

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Reply #109 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:55pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:35pm:
... wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:01pm:
The problem for france is that their armed forces are about as french as their soccer team, 


Grin Grin Grin

... wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:01pm:
so they cannot be trusted to do what must be done, as  their loyalties lie elsewhere.


All Hail to Multiculturalism, Diversity, and 'Difference'!



I will, Herb, but I will not include Islam because it rejects those three, and will murder you if you do.
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Reply #110 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:56pm
 
Quantum wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:44am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:35am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:06am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:50am:
issuevoter wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 7:54am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 26th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
A terrible event, and I feel for the family of that poor dead priest.

However, what sort of God would let a priest be killed in such a horrific manner, in a Church?

Surely this makes people question their faith   Undecided





This looks like another one of Svengalis reincarnations.


Makes you wonder hey.

Totally insane and not ontopic.


"not ontopic" ?

Grin

I think you're in the wrong thread, darling.
It isn't breath. You went from a priest getting his throat slit to questioning the Christian faith. From relevant to irrelevant.


When you introduce religion, it's relevant yet, when others introduce religion it isn't relevant?

Oh no my boy, it doesn't work that way.

You and your fellow Islamophobes are all about "apportioning blame", so I'll play your game.

How much blame do we apportion to God for letting this happen?

A priest, in a Church, FFS!

What was God doing when this poor bugger was having his throat slit - chasing Pokemon?






For someone who pretends to be so knowledgeable, as well as claiming to have read the Bible, it is amazing that you think the death of a priest is going to cause people to lose faith.


Of course it won't cause them to lose faith: they're mainly a bunch of brainwashed idiots.

I'm just exposing some of that idiocy.

Their "God" allowed a murderer to cut the throat of a priest, while he was in a church. In a church!

If God isn't everywhere, he/she/it should at least be in a church.

Who needs enemies, when you have such a chickenshit  "God" who would allow something like that to happen?

No, you Islamophobes say we should be apportioning blame, so I'm just playing your apologist game.

How much blame are the brainwashed Christians going to put on their pathetic "God" who allowed this to happen?

(I've read it twice, by the way. Cover to cover)
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Re: Church hostage takers killed in Rouen
Reply #111 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 1:04pm
 
How many 'Own Goals' is it now that the French authorities have committed against France because of their reluctance to intern suspects and not permit bail for their jailed Muslims who are a risk to the community?

For as long as they keep playing games of political correctness these horrors will continue.

And then we have Nicolas Sarkozy calling for 'merciless' responses ... which means what? He doesn't say. Just bullshit rhetoric to up his chances of getting elected again.

And these cretins like Hollande, Sarkozy, and Merkel are the very same idiots who were only so recently condemning Trump for calling for a stop to Muslim immigration.

  i"French authorities admitted that both Kermiche and his partner were subject to security 'S' files, meaning they were known terror suspects who should have been under surveillance.

Kermiche was living with his parents in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray with an electronic tag on his ankle, after spending time in prison in both France and Switzerland".


"One attacker named as 19-year-old Adel Kermiche, known to police for twice trying to join the terror group in Syria".

"He was jailed but released on bail - under conditions that allowed him to roam free in the morning and kill the priest
French authorities revealed they arrested a third man, a 16-year-old Saint-Etienne resident, relating to the attack
Nicolas Sarkozy calls for 'merciless' response as ex-PM said 'everything is being "done to trigger a war of religions'


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Re: Church hostage takers killed in Rouen
Reply #112 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 1:10pm
 
Anyone know why Greg is too frightened to post in here?


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1469523772/30#32
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Reply #113 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 1:11pm
 
"O Hell no, we shouldn't stop Muslim immigration" - the PC moral-elite cry out.

So why aren't they advocating for more Negroes from East Africa to be imported into Melbourne? Surely that would fix the Blacks on the Rampage problem down there?
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Reply #114 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 1:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:44am:
When you introduce religion, it's relevant yet, when others introduce religion it isn't relevant?

Oh no my boy, it doesn't work that way.

You and your fellow Islamophobes are all about "apportioning blame", so I'll play your game.

How much blame do we apportion to God for letting this happen?

A priest, in a Church, FFS!

What was God doing when this poor bugger was having his throat slit - chasing Pokemon?





You know it isn't real? There is no evidence what so ever that god is anything more that a figment of a virulent imagination of a feeble mind.

You must really lose your sh1t around easter and christmas when there are no easter eggs or presents form santa.  Grin Grin Grin

You sir are a fool if you believe in god, but that would account for a lot of your moronic posts.
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Reply #115 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 1:19pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 1:04pm:
How many 'Own Goals' is it now that the French authorities have committed against France because of their reluctance to intern suspects and not permit bail for their jailed Muslims who are a risk to the community?

For as long as they keep playing games of political correctness these horrors will continue.

And then we have Nicolas Sarkozy calling for 'merciless' responses ... which means what? He doesn't say. Just bullshit rhetoric to up his chances of getting elected again.

And these cretins like Hollande, Sarkozy, and Merkel are the very same idiots who were only so recently condemning Trump for calling for a stop to Muslim immigration.

 



"French authorities admitted that both Kermiche and his partner were subject to security 'S' files, meaning they were known terror suspects who should have been under surveillance.

Kermiche was living with his parents in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray with an electronic tag on his ankle, after spending time in prison in both France and Switzerland".



"One attacker named as 19-year-old Adel Kermiche, known to police for twice trying to join the terror group in Syria".

"He was jailed but released on bail - under conditions that allowed him to roam free in the morning and kill the priest
French authorities revealed they arrested a third man, a 16-year-old Saint-Etienne resident, relating to the attack
Nicolas Sarkozy calls for 'merciless' response as ex-PM said 'everything is being "done to trigger a war of religions'


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Which is why Sonia Kluger is correct.

I be the kgb would not have terror suspects 'under watch' .........
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Reply #116 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 1:28pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
You know it isn't real? There is no evidence what so ever that god is anything more that a figment of a virulent imagination of a feeble mind.

You must really lose your sh1t around easter and christmas when there are no easter eggs or presents form santa.  Grin Grin Grin

You sir are a fool if you believe in god, but that would account for a lot of your moronic posts.


I knew you were a little slow but I thought it was rather obvious that was the whole point of Gregs post. Even Lisa got it and she's usually the last one to figure it out
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Reply #117 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 1:29pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
There is no evidence what so ever that god is anything more that a figment of a virulent imagination of a feeble mind.


Exactly.

The Christians believe it/he/she exists, though.

So, how much blame should the Christians be apportioning to their "God"?

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Reply #118 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 3:28pm
 
Quantum wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

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One of the central messages at the foundation of Christianity is that people choose to do evil, and God will allow people to act on the evil in their heart until the day of judgement. This man who killed this priest did evil and will one day be judged for it. That's what Christianity holds to, so there is no need for a loss of faith.

Of course, had you ever read a history book and ever read the bible (like you claim to have) you would know this.




Just so, Quantum.


Matthew 13:24
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25  But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26  But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27  So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28  He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29  But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30  Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Matthew 13:36
Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37  He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38  The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39  The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40  As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.


Matthew 13:47
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48  Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.


Luke 3:8
Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
9  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.



We are the gold and silver which our creator is refining, in our choices.


2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.


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Reply #119 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 3:30pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 3:28pm:
Quantum wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

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One of the central messages at the foundation of Christianity is that people choose to do evil, and God will allow people to act on the evil in their heart until the day of judgement. This man who killed this priest did evil and will one day be judged for it. That's what Christianity holds to, so there is no need for a loss of faith.

Of course, had you ever read a history book and ever read the bible (like you claim to have) you would know this.




Just so, Quantum.


Matthew 13:24
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25  But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26  But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27  So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28  He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29  But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30  Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Matthew 13:36
Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37  He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38  The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39  The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40  As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.


Matthew 13:47
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48  Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.


Luke 3:8
Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
9  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.



We are the gold and silver which our creator is refining, in our choices.


2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.




How much blame are you apportioning to your God, Yadda?

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