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Re: Why are these people allowed to live among us ?
Reply #15 - Jul 29th, 2016 at 12:23am
 
CoolGordon wrote on Jul 28th, 2016 at 10:31pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2016 at 10:29pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 28th, 2016 at 10:02pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2016 at 9:53pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 28th, 2016 at 8:52pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2016 at 8:32pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 28th, 2016 at 8:30am:
We're so tolerant we tolerate intolerance.


Exactly. I’ve been posting here for years. I just love intolerance, but that’s just me.

Ban them.


Do you think the genuinely intolerant Islamists use our system against us?


I haven’t met one yet, Gordon.

As for intolerant Poms, Danes, Afrikaans, New Zealanders and Canadian Yids, the board’s awash with them.

We grew here they flew here, no?

Aussie Aussie Aussie.


Still dribbling crap as a deflection techniques?
What are your thoughts on the Aussie AQ fella with links to the Western Sydney Islamic youth centre?



I’m not sure about him, Gordon.

As for Canadian Yids, some of my best friends are these people.

I don’t care if they, grew, flew or swam here. Rich tapestry, innit.


Does the sewerage ever stop flowing out of your mouth?
How many Canadian Yids are on ASIO watch lists?
It'd upto about 500 muz now sweetie.
Please explain?


Mr Abbott’s leaking the ASIO watch lists now, is he?

No worries. Looks like he’s leaving out your Mossad passport thieves though, Gordon.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Some of my best friends are Israeli spies.

Hush hush, eh?
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Re: Why are these people allowed to live among us ?
Reply #16 - Jan 11th, 2017 at 9:24am
 



Why do lawmakers and policy makers in Australia imagine that it is OK to allow such people [moslems] to live among us ?

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1/   Mainstream ISLAM promotes, encourages, and 'normalises' violence against persons who are not moslems [i.e. because, persons are not moslems].

2/   And all of ISLAM's 'religious' doctrines which sanction [i.e. make 'lawful'] such violence, are given authority from ISLAM's foundation texts, the Koran and the Hadith.



Moslems will insistently deny the accusations i have made in 1 & 2 above.

But the moslem denials of those accusations made in 1 & 2 above, are barefaced, and provable lies,
...provable to any reasonable person.


Mainstream ISLAMIC law, makes 'lawful', the killing of those who do not believe, as moslems believe.

Essentially, ISLAM takes behaviour which most of mankind would recognise as criminal behaviour, and says that such behaviour is lawful for the moslem.

Further, ISLAM declares Mohammed to be the messenger of Allah, and, we know that Mohammed is revered by   all   moslems.

But what is not so readily acknowledge by moslems, is that Mohammed was a person who promoted the enduring ISLAMIC idea, that ISLAM makes it lawful for [and encourages] 'the moslem' to murder persons who refuse to believe as they [moslems] do!





SUMMARY;

Starting from the premise that every moslem who insists that he is a moslem,
is a moslem.

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM.       < -------- dictionary definition.


What we as non-moslems need to recognise about the moslem,       is that the moslem has chosen to embrace a religious philosophy, which gives the moslem [as an expression of his 'religious freedom'], the 'right' to impose ISLAM and Sharia law upon disbelievers, using intimidation, violence, and terror.

And further, what we as non-moslems need to recognise about the moslem, is that the moslem will always support pro-ISLAMIC outcomes, 1st, 2nd and 3rd !

The sooner the people of Western nations come to understand this 'reality', the sooner we will recognise the need, to start to separate ourselves from this lawless rabble that lives among us [i.e. moslems].

ISLAM acts in the world, as though it were a political philosophy,      and, promotes a violent political/religious tyranny, as a desirable form of government [for all of mankind].

And ISLAM legitimises [i.e. ISLAM makes lawful!!] political violence against anyone, who oppose ISLAM's political aspirations [which are secular and worldly, and oppressive] !





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"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Koran 9.111







IN THE HADITH TOO,      MOHAMMED SAID.....

"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026


"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.065
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.080i





Google;
"Allah's Messenger said" "Whosoever dies without participating"






ARGUMENT;
For those who would argue that those Koran verses are an anachronism,       ....and that Koran verses do not reflect or guide, the intent of the moslem community, here in Australia, today,             .....I would offer, that the Koran is, and always has been, ~the~ most important source of religious authority for ISLAMIC religious leaders, and ~the~ most important source of religious instruction, for every moslem.

Any person who would suggest other than that, is either ignorant, OR, is being deliberately deceitful.


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: Why are these people allowed to live among us ?
Reply #17 - Jan 11th, 2017 at 9:27am
 

Obsessed Islamophobe: Yadda   <--------------------- dictionary definition
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Re: Why are these people allowed to live among us ?
Reply #18 - Jan 11th, 2017 at 10:13am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2017 at 9:27am:
Obsessed Islamophobe: Yadda   <--------------------- dictionary definition



Obsessed: Yadda   <--------------------- dictionary definition


Islamophobe: Yadda





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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1454219198/4#4
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Pursue truth.

To the best of your current ability, always respect and defend what you understand to be true/truthful.





John 3:19
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.


John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


John 18:37
......Jesus answered,.....To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: Why are these people allowed to live among us ?
Reply #19 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 8:54am
 


These current 'ISLAM related' stories [below] are 'emblematic' of what moslems [will] bring with them, to every 'liberal' and tolerant [and ignorant/naive] Western nation.

Q.
Is accommodating such 'cultural diversity' as this,    in Australia,    acceptable ?


Dictionary;
emblem = = a heraldic device or symbolic object as a distinctive badge of a nation, organization, or family.        a symbol or symbolic representation.



Google the title line


By Robert Spencer on Feb 20, 2017 07:22 pm
Maryland: Mosque hosts celebration to honor jihad murderer of foe of Pakistan’s blasphemy laws
“Whoever disrespects the Holy Prophet Muhammad is worthy of death, and even if disrespects indirectly he is still worthy of death. Even if someone asks for forgiveness it is not acceptable.” Large numbers of people who believe this are entering the U.S.....


By Christine Williams on Feb 20, 2017 09:52 am
Canada: Protesters outside mosque where imam prayed for killing of unbelievers could face hate crime charges
A group of Canadian protesters with placards stating “Say No to Islam” outside of Masjid Toronto could face hate crime charges. Toronto Mayor John Tory “criticized the protest, calling it ‘Islamophobia’ in a Tweet.” Yet authorities appear to have little to no concern about the actions of that mosque,.....


By Robert Spencer on Feb 20, 2017 07:34 pm
“Moderate” Malaysia: Tens of thousands rally to support adoption of Islamic penal code
“Critics of the bill warn that it could pave the way for full implementation of hudud,....


By Robert Spencer on Feb 19, 2017 07:23 pm
After Islamic jihadi attacks Ohio State students, campus hosts talk on “Islamophobia”


By Robert Spencer on Feb 19, 2017 03:06 pm
Toronto mosque: “O Allah! Give us victory over the disbelieving people…slay them one by one and spare not one of them”
Canada is about to pass a resolution that will pave the way to the criminalization of “Islamophobia.” But about this, Canadian authorities have nothing to say.


By Robert Spencer on Feb 19, 2017 02:51 pm
UK: Headteacher gets death threats from Muslim parents over her “offensive clothes”
Dressing immodestly: offensive to Allah. Threatening to murder those who dress immodestly: pleasing to Allah.


By Robert Spencer on Feb 19, 2017 12:44 pm
Texas: Muslima kidnapped woman because her “lifestyle brought shame to the Muslim community”
Normal Juarez Taha apparently was the linchpin of a plot to return this woman to Libya, where should would almost certainly have been the victim of an honor killing.


By Robert Spencer on Feb 19, 2017 09:05 am
Saudi Arabia deports 40,000 Pakistanis over jihad terror fears
Saudi Arabia is the world’s chief sponsor of jihad terrorism, but it doesn’t want it inside the Kingdom. Who knew that the House of Saud was full of racist, bigoted Islamophobes?


By Robert Spencer on Feb 18, 2017 08:07 pm
Canada: Bomb-making materials found at Muslim teen’s home
“Investigators also seized a document called ‘Put Your Trust in Allah.’ The document referred to the seven gifts someone would receive in the afterlife as a martyr for jihad.”


By Robert Spencer on Feb 18, 2017 02:29 pm
Islamic State jihadi says mass rapes of non-Muslim women were “normal”
In Islamic law, it is normal: the seizure of Infidel girls and their use as sex slaves is sanctioned in the Qur’an.


By Robert Spencer on Feb 18, 2017 02:18 pm
Merkel: Europe must take in more Muslim migrants, Islam “is not the cause of terrorism”
Everyone is so confident that that is the case, except, of course, the terrorists themselves, who are just as confident that their inspiration and impetus comes entirely from Islam.


By Christine Williams on Feb 18, 2017 10:50 am
Egypt: Muslims shoot Christian teacher in the head as attacks on Christians escalate


By Robert Spencer on Feb 18, 2017 10:29 am
Pope Francis: “Migrations are not a danger. They are a challenge for growth.”


By Robert Spencer on Feb 20, 2017 08:12 pm
Establishment media lies yet again about Robert Spencer and the jihad threat
It is important to expose the establishment media, both large outlets and small, until it is universally known that these are not news outlets, but lying propagandists with an agenda.


By Robert Spencer on Feb 19, 2017 06:01 pm
Muslim Olympian who claimed she was detained because of Trump ban actually detained under Obama
Yet another spurious claim of Muslim victimhood. But Ibtihaj Muhammad need not worry: the establishment propaganda media will continue eagerly to retail any and all claims of “anti-Muslim hate crimes,”





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As more moslems come to live among us, these are 'typical' of the     'ISLAM related'     stories we can expect to see more of, here in Australia.

'Multicultural enrichment' is the euphemism which is used by Leftist policy makers to hide and to cover their own folly.




If you want to be informed about what is happening around you, and if want to be informed about how THE PEACE of your society is being destroyed around you,        ...then i would encourage you to subscribe to these 3 email lists;


http://www.jihadwatch.org/jihad-watch-daily-update

http://www.meforum.org/list_subscribe.php

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/list_subscribe.php

These information services will send you a very short daily email summary of new important reports,      ....with links to the main report(s).





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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: Why are these people allowed to live among us ?
Reply #20 - Oct 27th, 2017 at 7:15pm
 

We allow these people to live among us!


They are an identifiable group people,
a community of people,
who all believe that it is normal to hold views like these [below] !!!

AND WE ALLOW THEM, TO LIVE AMONG US ?? !!



Quote:

France: Mother of jihadist child-murderer says,

“The prophet permits the killing of Jewish children”






QUESTION;
What constitutes a 'Hate Crime' of our age ?
 

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Quote:

gravenimage says      

October 26, 2017 at 9:55 am


Yes–this does not include preaching violent Jihad.

But speaking out *against* Jihad is “hate”.

So perverse.




https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/10/uks-terror-czar-urges-that-jihad-preachers-no...



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DO I HEAR THE ARGUMENT;
"But moslems living in Australia don't hold these views!"
  ???


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1469402078/0#0

Quote:

"This nation [i.e. the moslem nation/community, the ummah] has been and will continue to be a nation of Jihad until Judgement day.




IMAGE.....
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Islamic politician Sheik Ismail Alwahwah, the leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia.


This person is a prominent moslem community member and community spokesman, here, in Australia.




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IMAGE.....
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Melbourne atrocity, committed by a 'Greek' person claiming that...

"Muslim faith is the correct faith according to the whole world.....

And I am not guilty."


.....n.b.        the dropkick who did this, considers himself to be a virtuous person.




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IMAGE.....
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"We are motivated by our religion, by our Qur’an and Sunnah and we are not ashamed of that,..."



Quote:

By Nicolai Sennels on May 31, 2017 09:02 am

The real cause of Islamic terrorism: “We are motivated by our religion, by our Qur’an and Sunnah”


Every time a new jihad attack strikes innocents in the West, media and politicians get busy blaming “bad integration,” “poverty,” “marginalization,” “racism,” etc.

For some reason, it never occurs to them to ask if Islamic terrorism has anything to do with Islam and the increasing number of followers of this particular religion in our countries......

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/05/the-real-cause-of-islamic-terrorism-we-are-mo...



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Quote:

"What makes Allah happy?

Allah is happy, when kafir get killed."




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Please watch this YT...
Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims
         goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0






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"....the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101


"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111



ARGUMENT;
For those who would argue that those Koran verses are an anachronism,       ....and that Koran verses do not reflect or guide, the intent of the moslem community, here in Australia, today,             .....I would offer, that the Koran is, and always has been, ~the~ most important source of religious authority for ISLAMIC religious leaders, and ~the~ most important source of religious instruction, for every moslem.
[and all moslems will openly attest to this fact]

Any person who would suggest other than that, is either ignorant, OR, is being deliberately deceitful.

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