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Reply #45 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 2:49pm
 
No, the "Facist Right" would have them hanged then send the pieces of sh!t back to where they came from.
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Reply #46 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 3:31pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 2:27pm:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 11:35am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 11:08am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 9:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 9:32am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 9:05am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 8:49am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 8:19am:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:26am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 12:08am:
Government moves towards indefinite detention for some terrorists in push for new anti-terror laws

Australia is taking a step towards indefinite detention for some convicted terrorists, with the Federal Government pushing for legislation in every state so terrorists could be kept in jail after their sentences expire if a court says they would reoffend.
...

Keeping terrorists in jail after their sentence expires raises legal concerns about procedural fairness and double punishment.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-25/government-push-for-new-anti-terror-laws/7...



Typical socialist you can always find a reason to release a filthy criminals out into the streets to carry on as usual; does't matter if they are terrorists, rapists or paedophiles they all get released.

This is why the death penalty is the preferred method of punishment.


But never fear the scumbag lawyers and magistrates will have your terrorist mates back on the streets killing whitey before you can say thanks, ya PoS.  Angry





So the purpose of jailing isn't rehabilitation, it's revenge.
And the slippery slope continues. It's now indefinite detention for rapists also.
What about motor bike club members ... what about aboriginals ... surely they all will reoffend ?






As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed.  Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.


The same cabinet that wants to out manoeuvre the far right minor parties and use this as a tool to whack over Labor's head, soon to be claiming they are weak on terror. The same tactic they used on Labor concerning refugees who come by boats.

And as for judicial oversight, you mean the high court judges chosen by the government?





point to a single politically-biased High Court decision and you can then make a claim. Up until then, you are simply demonstrating your ignorance of the High court, most of whose members were appointed by both parties many many years ago.



All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.



So why did Cheif Justice Michael Kirby - and openly gay man - vote down the gay marriage attempt?  simple. he was voing on the constitution, not his own opinions or bias.  Most people have the ability to do the right thing. Just coz you cant....



Cherry picking season aye.

Biases underpin all human decisions.
To imply sexuality as the dominate influence in queer people's decisions, represents your own bias.




the question was BIAS in the judicaryand particularly, the High Court. I provided a perfect example of why such bias does not exist.

Naturally, you could not accept it

idiot.



Incorrect. When you cherry picked, you chose only one bias to judge the decision on, while ignored all the other potential biases that influenced the decision.

Your score    
F
for F.wit.


quite the contrary idiot-features. You complain long and loud about every decision you think is wrong despite not having the brainpower to know why it was right and you were wrong. The Gay Marriage appeal was rejected because the law absolutely forbade it. It was a legal decision - which is exactly what we want from a high court.



You've been in prison, how would you know anything about what I may or may not have said.
Unless you are still a compulsive liar ... or your defacto Maria told you so ... and if so, her view is biassed.
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Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Reply #47 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 4:26pm
 
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 3:31pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 2:27pm:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 11:35am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 11:08am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 9:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 9:32am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 9:05am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 8:49am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 8:19am:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:26am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 12:08am:
Government moves towards indefinite detention for some terrorists in push for new anti-terror laws

Australia is taking a step towards indefinite detention for some convicted terrorists, with the Federal Government pushing for legislation in every state so terrorists could be kept in jail after their sentences expire if a court says they would reoffend.
...

Keeping terrorists in jail after their sentence expires raises legal concerns about procedural fairness and double punishment.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-25/government-push-for-new-anti-terror-laws/7...



Typical socialist you can always find a reason to release a filthy criminals out into the streets to carry on as usual; does't matter if they are terrorists, rapists or paedophiles they all get released.

This is why the death penalty is the preferred method of punishment.


But never fear the scumbag lawyers and magistrates will have your terrorist mates back on the streets killing whitey before you can say thanks, ya PoS.  Angry





So the purpose of jailing isn't rehabilitation, it's revenge.
And the slippery slope continues. It's now indefinite detention for rapists also.
What about motor bike club members ... what about aboriginals ... surely they all will reoffend ?






As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed.  Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.


The same cabinet that wants to out manoeuvre the far right minor parties and use this as a tool to whack over Labor's head, soon to be claiming they are weak on terror. The same tactic they used on Labor concerning refugees who come by boats.

And as for judicial oversight, you mean the high court judges chosen by the government?





point to a single politically-biased High Court decision and you can then make a claim. Up until then, you are simply demonstrating your ignorance of the High court, most of whose members were appointed by both parties many many years ago.



All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.



So why did Cheif Justice Michael Kirby - and openly gay man - vote down the gay marriage attempt?  simple. he was voing on the constitution, not his own opinions or bias.  Most people have the ability to do the right thing. Just coz you cant....



Cherry picking season aye.

Biases underpin all human decisions.
To imply sexuality as the dominate influence in queer people's decisions, represents your own bias.




the question was BIAS in the judicaryand particularly, the High Court. I provided a perfect example of why such bias does not exist.

Naturally, you could not accept it

idiot.



Incorrect. When you cherry picked, you chose only one bias to judge the decision on, while ignored all the other potential biases that influenced the decision.

Your score    
F
for F.wit.


quite the contrary idiot-features. You complain long and loud about every decision you think is wrong despite not having the brainpower to know why it was right and you were wrong. The Gay Marriage appeal was rejected because the law absolutely forbade it. It was a legal decision - which is exactly what we want from a high court.



You've been in prison, how would you know anything about what I may or may not have said.
Unless you are still a compulsive liar ... or your defacto Maria told you so ... and if so, her view is biassed.



You got beaten by the perfect example. Now if you have even a SINGLE example that shows High Court bias in judgements then show it.

but you wont of course. you never do.  You just slink away to the next tawrdy post.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Reply #48 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 4:50pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 7:31am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 6:01am:
It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.


I agree Bobby, although I do have reservations about any Government abusing these new laws to label an individuals as a terrorist even if they have not killed anyone but pose a risk no matter how obscure....If the laws are well targeted and have oversight and review processes I think the Government had a duty to protect society from people who have forfeited their right to live amongst law abiding citizens....We do it for serious offenders already and no offence is more heinous that killing your fellow human beings in the name of a God!!!

Huh Huh Huh



Wouldn't it be simpler to just hang them?
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Reply #49 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 4:57pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 4:26pm:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 3:31pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 2:27pm:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 11:35am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 11:08am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 9:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 9:32am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 9:05am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 8:49am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 8:19am:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:26am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 12:08am:
Government moves towards indefinite detention for some terrorists in push for new anti-terror laws

Australia is taking a step towards indefinite detention for some convicted terrorists, with the Federal Government pushing for legislation in every state so terrorists could be kept in jail after their sentences expire if a court says they would reoffend.
...

Keeping terrorists in jail after their sentence expires raises legal concerns about procedural fairness and double punishment.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-25/government-push-for-new-anti-terror-laws/7...



Typical socialist you can always find a reason to release a filthy criminals out into the streets to carry on as usual; does't matter if they are terrorists, rapists or paedophiles they all get released.

This is why the death penalty is the preferred method of punishment.


But never fear the scumbag lawyers and magistrates will have your terrorist mates back on the streets killing whitey before you can say thanks, ya PoS.  Angry





So the purpose of jailing isn't rehabilitation, it's revenge.
And the slippery slope continues. It's now indefinite detention for rapists also.
What about motor bike club members ... what about aboriginals ... surely they all will reoffend ?






As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed.  Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.


The same cabinet that wants to out manoeuvre the far right minor parties and use this as a tool to whack over Labor's head, soon to be claiming they are weak on terror. The same tactic they used on Labor concerning refugees who come by boats.

And as for judicial oversight, you mean the high court judges chosen by the government?





point to a single politically-biased High Court decision and you can then make a claim. Up until then, you are simply demonstrating your ignorance of the High court, most of whose members were appointed by both parties many many years ago.



All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.



So why did Cheif Justice Michael Kirby - and openly gay man - vote down the gay marriage attempt?  simple. he was voing on the constitution, not his own opinions or bias.  Most people have the ability to do the right thing. Just coz you cant....



Cherry picking season aye.

Biases underpin all human decisions.
To imply sexuality as the dominate influence in queer people's decisions, represents your own bias.




the question was BIAS in the judicaryand particularly, the High Court. I provided a perfect example of why such bias does not exist.

Naturally, you could not accept it

idiot.



Incorrect. When you cherry picked, you chose only one bias to judge the decision on, while ignored all the other potential biases that influenced the decision.

Your score    
F
for F.wit.


quite the contrary idiot-features. You complain long and loud about every decision you think is wrong despite not having the brainpower to know why it was right and you were wrong. The Gay Marriage appeal was rejected because the law absolutely forbade it. It was a legal decision - which is exactly what we want from a high court.



You've been in prison, how would you know anything about what I may or may not have said.
Unless you are still a compulsive liar ... or your defacto Maria told you so ... and if so, her view is biassed.



You got beaten by the perfect example. Now if you have even a SINGLE example that shows High Court bias in judgements then show it.

but you wont of course. you never do.  You just slink away to the next tawrdy post.



What you are arguing about is a side issue and doesn't deserve the time already spent on it. There will be plenty of better opportunities to show you up  ... as long as you don't re-offend too soon.
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Reply #50 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:01pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 7:31am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 6:01am:
It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.


I agree Bobby, although I do have reservations about any Government abusing these new laws to label an individuals as a terrorist even if they have not killed anyone but pose a risk no matter how obscure....If the laws are well targeted and have oversight and review processes I think the Government had a duty to protect society from people who have forfeited their right to live amongst law abiding citizens....We do it for serious offenders already and no offence is more heinous that killing your fellow human beings in the name of a God!!!

Huh Huh Huh



Wouldn't it be simpler to just hang them?



Perhaps that is the longer game being played Bobby. First this and then argue the cost of imprisoning a teenager for the next eighty years against burning her at the stake in the town square.
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Reply #51 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:12pm
 
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:01pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 7:31am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 6:01am:
It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.


I agree Bobby, although I do have reservations about any Government abusing these new laws to label an individuals as a terrorist even if they have not killed anyone but pose a risk no matter how obscure....If the laws are well targeted and have oversight and review processes I think the Government had a duty to protect society from people who have forfeited their right to live amongst law abiding citizens....We do it for serious offenders already and no offence is more heinous that killing your fellow human beings in the name of a God!!!

Huh Huh Huh



Wouldn't it be simpler to just hang them?



Perhaps that is the longer game being played Bobby. First this and then argue the cost of imprisoning a teenager for the next eighty years against burning her at the stake in the town square.



you do have an ingrained problem with girls, dont you?
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Reply #52 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:12pm
 
Of people who they believe still pose a threat.
Please send us your addess and we'll chuck a few jihadists in your spare room Smiley
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Reply #53 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:25pm
 
Some people simply forfeit their right to remain in society but they have the opportunity to reflect on their choices!!!

Huh Huh Huh

The people's good is the highest law.
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Reply #54 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:45pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:12pm:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:01pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 7:31am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 6:01am:
It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.


I agree Bobby, although I do have reservations about any Government abusing these new laws to label an individuals as a terrorist even if they have not killed anyone but pose a risk no matter how obscure....If the laws are well targeted and have oversight and review processes I think the Government had a duty to protect society from people who have forfeited their right to live amongst law abiding citizens....We do it for serious offenders already and no offence is more heinous that killing your fellow human beings in the name of a God!!!

Huh Huh Huh



Wouldn't it be simpler to just hang them?



Perhaps that is the longer game being played Bobby. First this and then argue the cost of imprisoning a teenager for the next eighty years against burning her at the stake in the town square.



you do have an ingrained problem with girls, dont you?



No.
As much as you are desperate for my attention. Try reeling it in.
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Reply #55 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 6:17pm
 
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 8:19am:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:26am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 12:08am:
Government moves towards indefinite detention for some terrorists in push for new anti-terror laws

Australia is taking a step towards indefinite detention for some convicted terrorists, with the Federal Government pushing for legislation in every state so terrorists could be kept in jail after their sentences expire if a court says they would reoffend.
...

Keeping terrorists in jail after their sentence expires raises legal concerns about procedural fairness and double punishment.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-25/government-push-for-new-anti-terror-laws/7...



Typical socialist you can always find a reason to release a filthy criminals out into the streets to carry on as usual; does't matter if they are terrorists, rapists or paedophiles they all get released.

This is why the death penalty is the preferred method of punishment.


But never fear the scumbag lawyers and magistrates will have your terrorist mates back on the streets killing whitey before you can say thanks, ya PoS.  Angry





So the purpose of jailing isn't rehabilitation, it's revenge.
And the slippery slope continues. It's now indefinite detention for rapists also.
What about motor bike club members ... what about aboriginals ... surely they all will reoffend ?






You Kumbaya mutha fkkers are a hoot.  Grin Grin

Yes gaol is to punish, and if you are an evil PoS then dying behind bars is what is in store for you. Some people no matter how many pinky swears they make to you left wing soft c0cks, will just walk out of the revolving door and do it again.

So if you want unrepentant recidivist rapist, paedophiles and terrorist to walk out and do it again; let them move in to your place for a year or 2. But like all good lefties you will let them walk free and not give a fkk what they do next, not your problem is it?

If we can't kill them then we should then incarcerate indefinitely as the next best option.


Also your comment on bikies and abos; yeah that was just stupid.  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #56 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 6:22pm
 
I can think of more than one reason for jail, as a deterrent, as a punishment and to remove from society to protect society.
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Reply #57 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 6:34pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 8:19am:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:26am:
____ wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 12:08am:
Government moves towards indefinite detention for some terrorists in push for new anti-terror laws

Australia is taking a step towards indefinite detention for some convicted terrorists, with the Federal Government pushing for legislation in every state so terrorists could be kept in jail after their sentences expire if a court says they would reoffend.
...

Keeping terrorists in jail after their sentence expires raises legal concerns about procedural fairness and double punishment.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-25/government-push-for-new-anti-terror-laws/7...



Typical socialist you can always find a reason to release a filthy criminals out into the streets to carry on as usual; does't matter if they are terrorists, rapists or paedophiles they all get released.

This is why the death penalty is the preferred method of punishment.


But never fear the scumbag lawyers and magistrates will have your terrorist mates back on the streets killing whitey before you can say thanks, ya PoS.  Angry





So the purpose of jailing isn't rehabilitation, it's revenge.
And the slippery slope continues. It's now indefinite detention for rapists also.
What about motor bike club members ... what about aboriginals ... surely they all will reoffend ?






You Kumbaya mutha fkkers are a hoot.  Grin Grin

Yes gaol is to punish, and if you are an evil PoS then dying behind bars is what is in store for you. Some people no matter how many pinky swears they make to you left wing soft c0cks, will just walk out of the revolving door and do it again.

So if you want unrepentant recidivist rapist, paedophiles and terrorist to walk out and do it again; let them move in to your place for a year or 2. But like all good lefties you will let them walk free and not give a fkk what they do next, not your problem is it?

If we can't kill them then we should then incarcerate indefinitely as the next best option.


Also your comment on bikies and abos; yeah that was just stupid.  Grin Grin Grin Grin



It's the state's responsibility to stop recidivism. If they are unable to do the job, then the state should be punished, not the person that hasn't been set on a less harmful path.
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Reply #58 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 6:39pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 6:22pm:
I can think of more than one reason for jail, as a deterrent, as a punishment and to remove from society to protect society. 


They are the three reasons entirely.
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Reply #59 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 6:41pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 6:22pm:
I can think of more than one reason for jail, as a deterrent, as a punishment and to remove from society to protect society. 


So a person who has 'paid his dues' according to sentence is not a member of society?

Interesting - ve haff vays off dealing mit Der Untermenschen Enbemies off Der Schtate!  Ein klein Konzentrationslager or drei vould be ein gut schtart!  Perhaps ein vew kas chambers?
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