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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 154420 Gender:	Re: Munich Shooting Reply #285 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:58pm Ok, nobody is coming forward with proof that the murderer was a Muslim. It seems to me, then, that the Islamophobes are sticking to their guns: - "all terrorists are Muslims". Not only that, now they also believe that: - "all murderers are Muslims". Are you people really that ignorant?
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Munich Shooting Reply #286 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:59pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 6:54pm: Dear Lisa, get this troll called Greggy off my back please. Bobby, as you can see, I'm trying. He's on my back now...I think
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Munich Shooting Reply #287 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:01pm Aussie wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:58pm: Quote: No, it's proof. Proof as in sufficient evidence. Of what exactly? Read back and you'll find out.
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Reply #288 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:03pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:58pm:

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No, it's proof. Proof as in sufficient evidence.

Of what exactly?

Read back and you'll find out.

You've provided no proof.

In fact, not a single person in the entire world has provided any proof that the murderer was a Muslim.

Yet, for some reason, you maintain that he was.

Why is that, Lisa?

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Reply #289 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:03pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:40pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:26pm:

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Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:01pm:

Munich Shooter Was ‘German-Iranian’ & Yelled ‘Allahu Akbar’

Published 3:47 pm EDT, July 22, 2016 Updated 8:41 am EDT, July 23, 2016 11 Comments By Jessica McBride
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There were early reports that the gunman in the Munich, Germany shooting spree may have been targeting foreigners or immigrants. Those reports had people asking: Was the gunman in Munich a Neo Nazi? Munich police said in a news conference that the shooter was an 18-year-old German-Iranian man from Munich, Ali David Sonboly, who was inspired by far-right killer Anders Breivik, UK Telegraph says. They said they can find no ties to ISIS.
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Ali David Sonboly, 18, the gunman in the Munich, Germany, shooting spree, was a depressed loner who had read about school shooters.
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There were conflicting reports on the shooter’s motive and background in the chaotic aftermath of the shooting; CNN says police were initially calling it a terrorist attack, though, and that a witness heard the gunman shout, “Allahu Akbar” before shooting children in the face. The Sun says German police have not yet officially linked the shooting spree to Islamic fundamentalism; on July 23, police said the motive is still not clear but that they found an “obvious link” to Breivik as well as articles and a book on mass shooters, including school shooters.
Munich police initially said they thought there were three gunmen but now say they believe there was just one shooter, Sonboly, and that he is dead:
The gunman may have shouted “Ich bin Deutscher” (“I am German”) on a video as bystanders shouted insults at him from a nearby rooftop. Reddit has posted a translation of the German in the unconfirmed video. CNN says it is analyzing the rooftop video and that the purported gunman talks about medical treatment and says he was a German. However, if the shooter was of Iranian descent yet German born (as he says in the video), it could explain the initial discrepancies between the gunman’s Islamic comment and German claim. Indeed, Munich police now say the shooter had dual nationality.

Do you have any proof that he was a Muslim, Homo?

Well, I'm not Homo but I'll answer this anyway.

The kid's parents are Iranians.

They came to Germany in the 1990's.

99.5% of Iranians in Iran ARE MUSLIMS.

The kid's name is ALI. Ali is a Muslim name.

FYI

"Ali was a cousin and son-in-law of the Prophet Muhammad and the fourth caliph to rule the Muslim world. His followers were the original Shiite Muslims, who regard him as the first rightful caliph."

Greg, if the above information is not enough proof for YOU, then that's just too bad.

The rest of us need to move on now.

That's not proof - it's circumstantial evidence.

I'm more than just a little bit disappointed that you don't understand the difference.

So, I'll ask you one more time: do you have proof that the murderer was a Muslim?

No, it's proof. Proof as in sufficient evidence.

That's why my previous post stated :

"Greg, if the above information is not enough proof for YOU, then that's just too bad."

Now, we're all moving on.

Please feel free to stay behind.

I stated this morning that race and religion played an important role in this massacre.

Did you not read that?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 154420 Gender:	Re: Munich Shooting Reply #290 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:04pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 6:54pm: Dear Lisa, get this troll called Greggy off my back please. Bobby, as you can see, I'm trying. No argument from me.
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Reply #291 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:06pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Look, I'm posting as a worried and heartbroken mummy who has teenagers. One happens to be a boy. Ok?

This kid was 1st generation German born of Iranian parents who fled Iran in the 1990s and sought asylum in Germany.

As a parent, I'm seriously over the interconnected issues of race and religion that have played a role in this tragedy.

I can see it lead to serious life threatening consequences.

Can you not see the isolation/bullying/depression/boiling point in this individual and community?

Anyway....bottom line? It's killing kids.

Just like a serious fever that turns the corner....we all need to hold on, hold together and pray that we as human beings turn this corner.

Fast.

Anyway, stay safe everyone.

And stay well away from Maccas and coffee shops!

Cook and eat at home. Make coffee at home. It's far cheaper, healthier and SAFER!

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120968 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Munich Shooting Reply #292 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:14pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 6:54pm: Dear Lisa, get this troll called Greggy off my back please. Bobby, as you can see, I'm trying. He's on my back now...I think Hi Lisa, not that there's anything wrong with Greggy:
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Reply #293 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:18pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 5:33pm:

I just spent 3 days in Frankfurt and they really have let far too many of them in.
Mass rape / indecent assaults, terror attacks, menacing groups on streets.
They are a horrible lot of people and Germany has made a huge error.

I'm wondering what my former German workmates would be thinking about all this.

"Letting far too many of them in" is the key to the problem, as well as bringing in Arab Muslims as opposed to Turkish Muslims.

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Reply #294 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:19pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Look, I'm posting as a worried and heartbroken mummy who has teenagers. One happens to be a boy. Ok?

This kid was 1st generation German born of Iranian parents who fled Iran in the 1990s and sought asylum in Germany.

As a parent, I'm seriously over the interconnected issues of race and religion that have played a role in this tragedy.

I can see it lead to serious life threatening consequences.

Can you not see the isolation/bullying/depression/boiling point in this individual and community?

Anyway....bottom line? It's killing kids.

Just like a serious fever that turns the corner....we all need to hold on, hold together and pray that we as human beings turn this corner.

Fast.

Anyway, stay safe everyone.

And stay well away from Maccas and coffee shops!

Cook and eat at home. Make coffee at home. It's far cheaper, healthier and SAFER!

Up!

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Do you have proof that he was a Muslim?

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59410 Gender:	Re: Munich Shooting Reply #295 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:27pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:19pm: Do you have proof that he was a Muslim? Allahu Akhbaring is a pretty exclusively Mohammedan thing to do, no? 0.6% of Iranians are non-Muslims. None of them Allahu Akkbar.
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Reply #296 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

Dear Lisa,

get this troll called Greggy off my back please.

Bobby, as you can see, I'm trying.

No argument from me.

Oh shut up.

Stop pretending that Islam isn't a problematic issue here.

It is.

It underlies the turmoil in Iran. It's why people have fled and are still fleeing to other countries seeking asylum just like Ali's parents did back in the 1990's. It's the reason behind the forced exodus migration of Syrians today.

Islam underlies the global turmoil we're witnessing day in, day out.

A problematic religion which arose as a result of a guy hearing voices which gave him messages?????

Now we have Muslims killing non Muslims.

And Muslims are killing other Muslims. And it's not just Shiite vs Sunni either.

ARE THEY ALL EXTREMISTS?

Hell no!

Why?

Muslims are waging TWO WARS.

They're waging a freaking religious civil war amongst themselves and another war against those who they regard as infidels.

And it's all in the name of a God they call Allah.

Well, as a Christian, I can assure you it's not the God of the Holy Bible!

Anyway.....night!

Thanks for the migraine Cry

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Reply #297 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:28pm

Frank wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:19pm:

Do you have proof that he was a Muslim?

Allahu Akhbaring is a pretty exclusively Mohammedan thing to do, no?

0.6% of Iranians are non-Muslims. None of them Allahu Akkbar.

Do you have proof that he was a Muslim?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

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Reply #298 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:35pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:58pm:

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No, it's proof. Proof as in sufficient evidence.

Of what exactly?

Read back and you'll find out.

I've read everything as it has been posted, and I want to know what you reckon you have posted proof of, other than the completely shallow understanding of the relevant point as is your want. Tell us again how your sister-in-law is Iranian. Maybe that'll convince me of something....or other.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Munich Shooting Reply #299 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:37pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 5:24pm: He was a Muslim and he was Iranian. That's just fact. no, so far the only facts we've established are that he was Iranian, and he was a bug fan of a right wing maniac everything else is wishful thinking
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