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World Peace New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1 Gender:	Australia >< dispute in South China Sea Jul 21^st, 2016 at 7:15pm I have recently read news reports accusing China for rejecting the decision of the arbitration initiated by the Philippines, and other actions of China in South China sea. Our Foreign Minister also officially condemned China about the matter. I would like hear what other Aussies think about the issue.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18825 Gender:	Re: Australia >< dispute in South China Sea Reply #1 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 8:39pm You mean like China is just one of a number of nations with claims to the area. But with China might is right. Of course China is not going to accept the courts decision, the decision went against it.
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Reply #2 - Jul 31^st, 2016 at 11:24pm

The 'The Hague' or whatever it is biased towards the west and 'developed' economies and it no longer has any credibility or real power since our leader state the USA is too weak to enforce its rulings. Where is this powerful coalition that USA promised us that would be punishing China if China did not accept the 'The Hagues' decision? China see's the Philippines as a protectorate of the USA and that is exactly what it is. Most in China are blaming the USA for the outcome and many are boycotting US companies over the ruling. The only reason Australia cares about this issue is because our government does pretty much whatever USA tells it to do. The only reason this area is such an important shipping lane is because of the Chinese economy and USA has little to do with it. China is easily Australias largest trading partner and it is foolish to allow the USA to pressure us into confrontations with China over such a non-issue. At the end of the day Israel makes claims to their land because of historic claim and with the South China Sea it is China that is clearly the nation with the historic rights to the South China Sea. China has ancient maps and records to prove their claim. There is no good reason for Australia to put our economy at risk by supporting the USA on this issue.

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Reply #3 - Aug 1^st, 2016 at 12:04am

WJV wrote on Jul 31^st, 2016 at 11:24pm:

The 'The Hague' or whatever it is biased towards the west and 'developed' economies and it no longer has any credibility or real power since our leader state the USA is too weak to enforce its rulings. Where is this powerful coalition that USA promised us that would be punishing China if China did not accept the 'The Hagues' decision? China see's the Philippines as a protectorate of the USA and that is exactly what it is. Most in China are blaming the USA for the outcome and many are boycotting US companies over the ruling. The only reason Australia cares about this issue is because our government does pretty much whatever USA tells it to do. The only reason this area is such an important shipping lane is because of the Chinese economy and USA has little to do with it. China is easily Australias largest trading partner and it is foolish to allow the USA to pressure us into confrontations with China over such a non-issue. At the end of the day Israel makes claims to their land because of historic claim and with the South China Sea it is China that is clearly the nation with the historic rights to the South China Sea. China has ancient maps and records to prove their claim. There is no good reason for Australia to put our economy at risk by supporting the USA on this issue.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16907 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Australia >< dispute in South China Sea Reply #4 - Aug 1^st, 2016 at 1:16am lee wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 8:39pm: You mean like China is just one of a number of nations with claims to the area. But with China might is right. Of course China is not going to accept the courts decision, the decision went against it. You got it plum tree.
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21928 ACT Gender:	Re: Australia >< dispute in South China Sea Reply #5 - Aug 1^st, 2016 at 8:42am Have any of you had a look at the map of the area claimed by China, they are drawing a very long bow claiming it all. Stuff China, they should abide by the umpires decision like all good world citizens.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Australia >< dispute in South China Sea Reply #6 - Aug 1^st, 2016 at 10:06am you wonder what gives them the right to think its theirs????? its a vast space... if they are allowed to get away with this.. god knows what will be next.... stand fast me hearties we are in for a bumpy ride..
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Reply #7 - Aug 1^st, 2016 at 11:17am

WJV wrote on Jul 31^st, 2016 at 11:24pm:

The 'The Hague' or whatever it is biased towards the west and 'developed' economies and it no longer has any credibility or real power since our leader state the USA is too weak to enforce its rulings. Where is this powerful coalition that USA promised us that would be punishing China if China did not accept the 'The Hagues' decision? China see's the Philippines as a protectorate of the USA and that is exactly what it is. Most in China are blaming the USA for the outcome and many are boycotting US companies over the ruling. The only reason Australia cares about this issue is because our government does pretty much whatever USA tells it to do. The only reason this area is such an important shipping lane is because of the Chinese economy and USA has little to do with it. China is easily Australias largest trading partner and it is foolish to allow the USA to pressure us into confrontations with China over such a non-issue. At the end of the day Israel makes claims to their land because of historic claim and with the South China Sea it is China that is clearly the nation with the historic rights to the South China Sea. China has ancient maps and records to prove their claim. There is no good reason for Australia to put our economy at risk by supporting the USA on this issue.

You mean "developed" as in the IPCC as per the Paris Agreement, where China is undeveloped? Where would that put Taiwan, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and the Philippines?

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Australia >< dispute in South China Sea Reply #8 - Aug 1^st, 2016 at 11:31am I wonder who WJV is? I would say an employee
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