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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39715 Gender:	Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims Reply #270 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 10:01pm Like these blokes. But......step one is that we get out off the ME, and then re-assess the Threat of migration from there to Australia. We started this crap. There is no denying it. Why are we there?
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57205 Gender:	Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims Reply #271 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 10:48pm Sonia Kruger has not said anything empirically wrong. More Muslims DO mean more violent terrorism. We cannot tell the difference between the vast majority and the tiny minority until AFTER some mayhem has been carried out by hitherto 'peaceful and law-abiding' Muslims. Stop vilifying her. She was right.
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Reply #272 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 11:32pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 10:01pm:

Like these blokes.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/24/article-1314534-0B52B446000005DC-145_4...

But......step one is that we get out off the ME, and then re-assess the Threat of migration from there to Australia.

We started this crap. There is no denying it.

Why are we there?

No, we didnt start this cr@p, they have been doing this for thousands of years, we just further enabled it by giving them oil money. i agree though, get out of the middle east and then have nothing to do with them, isolate them from civilised countries and close all the borders.

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Reply #273 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 1:54am

Frank wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 10:48pm:

Sonia Kruger has not said anything empirically wrong. More Muslims DO mean more violent terrorism. We cannot tell the difference between the vast majority and the tiny minority until AFTER some mayhem has been carried out by hitherto 'peaceful and law-abiding' Muslims.

Stop vilifying her. She was right.

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......................some mayhem has been carried out by hitherto 'peaceful and law-abiding' Muslims........

even their own families say 'oh, we never thought he/she would have done that'.

you can't trust any muslim.

even they can't

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Reply #274 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 1:56am

rhino wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

.......you see my point though. My partner used to think that deep down everyone was a nice person, they were all human. But thats just not true, there are psychopaths around who would kill or maim anyone without a shadow of empathy. Believing that all cultures have the same value system as us is just as naive, if not plain dangerous. They dont, and there is zero reason why we should throw open the doors to every culture without adequate analysis, thats just self destructive.

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Reply #276 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 8:10am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 1:56am:

rhino wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

.......you see my point though. My partner used to think that deep down everyone was a nice person, they were all human. But thats just not true, there are psychopaths around who would kill or maim anyone without a shadow of empathy. Believing that all cultures have the same value system as us is just as naive, if not plain dangerous. They dont, and there is zero reason why we should throw open the doors to every culture without adequate analysis, thats just self destructive.

100% agree

100% agree with that view also.

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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14685 Colorado Gender:	Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims Reply #277 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 8:14am Appears she dances embarrassingly like a white girl That's not hawt.
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Reply #278 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 8:36am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 8:10am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 1:56am:

rhino wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

.......you see my point though. My partner used to think that deep down everyone was a nice person, they were all human. But thats just not true, there are psychopaths around who would kill or maim anyone without a shadow of empathy. Believing that all cultures have the same value system as us is just as naive, if not plain dangerous. They dont, and there is zero reason why we should throw open the doors to every culture without adequate analysis, thats just self destructive.

100% agree

100% agree with that view also.

Everyone knows I agree. The problem, which amounts to religious fanaticism, is not improving, its getting worse. You would have to be dim not to see that. A huge problem for the West is its leaders, who keep interfering with the natural order of the Middle East: one, for advantage, and two, the fatuous idea that because their careers are well advanced, they must know how deal with the situation. This last point was Tony Blair's mentality. The first was that of BW Bush.
It doesn't matter to them, they have personal security. Its the people in the street who suffer, and they need to wise up.

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Reply #279 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 1:07pm

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 8:17pm:

Ah, so I was right. You now claim to know what they think, despite never having asked them and not having a clue how Islamic beliefs might influence people's actions.

But I don't claim to know what they think, I claimed to know of my experiences. And you have no idea what I have or haven't asked them

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 8:17pm:

Most wars throughout history were faught between people of the same religion, or nothing to do with religion. The expansion of the Islmaic Caliphate is a notable exception.

I don't agree ... from the Romans to modern day, we've had many wars fought over because of religion. Sure, religion was often an excuse rather than the main motivator, but the same applies today. You don't think the US is dropping bombs because of religion do you?

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 8:17pm:

You claim to know what Muslims think based on not seing them do things and not hearing them say things. You are a willfully ignorant apologist. You don't ask them because you don't want to hear the answer. You know deep down that you are wrong, but you want to maintain plausible deniability when you tell everyone what Muslims think - speaking of course on your own behalf, not theirs.

you got all that from me saying 'I take people at face value'? That's a stretch even by your standards

talk about knowing what someone thinks based on what they didn't say or hear Cheesy

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Reply #280 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 8:12am

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But I don't claim to know what they think, I claimed to know of my experiences.

Yes you do. Here is the passage in question:

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what a load of hogwash ... how many muslims do you know that want Sharia law Cods? I grew up surrounded by muslims. Never did one want to stone me

Do you claim to experience the thoughts of others? Do you experience whether they want shariah law? Do you experience whether they want to stone you to death?

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And you have no idea what I have or haven't asked them

Let's find out shall we. Have you asked them whether they support shariah law?

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I don't agree ... from the Romans to modern day, we've had many wars fought over because of religion.

Can you explain how the Romans fought because of religion?

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Sure, religion was often an excuse rather than the main motivator, but the same applies today.

So you insist wars are fought because of religion, even though religion is not the dominant motivation?

Can you list some specific wars you think were all about religion?

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