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Reply #615 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 11:25pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 6:55am:

Emma wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:27pm:

Well done and a round of applause for CW. He managed more than one short sentence. Grin

Talkin'about live in fantasy... a 7TH CENTURY MUSLIM CLERIC.??? Relevance..???. Huh

oooooh ooooh oooooh I'm so scared.

NAH,, not IS .. The man was a lone wolf , who may have taken advantage of IS..?? Grin

For the money for his family, maybe yeah??
This is a beat-up. The guy acted alone, on an intent he had had for quite a while. Personal.
Who knows.. ??
Not you whatever you claim. Nor I.

BUT... rush to judgement is foolish in the world's environment, today.

a beat up?
I'll pass that onto the kids in ICU you sicko Cry

Give it a rest Cootie. Try something constructive.

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #616 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:20am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 9:50am:

It has to be said that this Nice jihadi certainly wasn't your conventional Muslim.

Ate pork.
Never attended the mosque until recently.
Engaged in homosexual practices.

And theres the thing. Many claim that most Muslims are "moderate", yet the most violent attacks are coming from the so called moderate Muslims.

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #618 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:26am

Emma wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 6:55am:

Emma wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:27pm:

Well done and a round of applause for CW. He managed more than one short sentence. Grin

Talkin'about live in fantasy... a 7TH CENTURY MUSLIM CLERIC.??? Relevance..???. Huh

oooooh ooooh oooooh I'm so scared.

NAH,, not IS .. The man was a lone wolf , who may have taken advantage of IS..?? Grin

For the money for his family, maybe yeah??
This is a beat-up. The guy acted alone, on an intent he had had for quite a while. Personal.
Who knows.. ??
Not you whatever you claim. Nor I.

BUT... rush to judgement is foolish in the world's environment, today.

a beat up?
I'll pass that onto the kids in ICU you sicko Cry

Give it a rest Cootie. Try something constructive.

OH Just watched the Late Encore of The Project on 10. I swear, I thought of all that Waleed Ali said.... before I saw the piece.

AND you know what WE see it the same way.

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #619 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:28am

rhino wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:22am:

who cares about history Emma, its the here and now which matters. societies and cultures should evolve, ours has, theirs hasnt.

Well Rhino ( Big Flappy Ears )

that is indeed the problem.

Except neither have evolved, at the core.

And ignoring the past does indeed lead to a repeat. Cool

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Reply #620 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:32am

The big problem is, we gave them money by buying their oil. All that did was allow them to escalate their primitive tribal wars by buying bigger and better weapons. Its like giving a top of the range ipad to a 5 year old. The truth is, our culture is more evolved and we need to treat them like irresponsible children.

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #621 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 1:22am

Emma wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:26am:

Emma wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 6:55am:

Emma wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:27pm:

Well done and a round of applause for CW. He managed more than one short sentence. Grin

Talkin'about live in fantasy... a 7TH CENTURY MUSLIM CLERIC.??? Relevance..???. Huh

oooooh ooooh oooooh I'm so scared.

NAH,, not IS .. The man was a lone wolf , who may have taken advantage of IS..?? Grin

For the money for his family, maybe yeah??
This is a beat-up. The guy acted alone, on an intent he had had for quite a while. Personal.
Who knows.. ??
Not you whatever you claim. Nor I.

BUT... rush to judgement is foolish in the world's environment, today.

a beat up?
I'll pass that onto the kids in ICU you sicko Cry

Give it a rest Cootie. Try something constructive.

OH Just watched the Late Encore of The Project on 10. I swear, I thought of all that Waleed Ali said.... before I saw the piece.

AND you know what WE see it the same way.

He is full of shlt and you clearly smoke some seriously good shlt. Hardly a shock that both of you think your arse is your elbow.

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #623 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 2:15am

Emma wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:28am:

rhino wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:22am:

who cares about history Emma, its the here and now which matters. societies and cultures should evolve, ours has, theirs hasnt.

Well Rhino ( Big Flappy Ears )

that is indeed the problem.

Except neither have evolved, at the core.

And ignoring the past does indeed lead to a repeat. Cool

My point IS... we have no claim to some sort of moral superiority.
We are the same as them. We cannot claim innocent victimhood.

We are ALL responsible for where we find ourselves today.

I am astonished and horrified that celebs are saying ..'they are afraid', here in Oz. They are saying we are all afraid ... Ridiculous.. these media types just increase the BS hype. I am NOT afraid of terrorist attack. Ludicrous,, and all the blah blah about how afraid these people feel is JUST FODDER for the other sides cause. Stop feeding hysteria and fear...... Grow up and realise , no-one is ever SAFE...

How pathetic. Even Waleed disgusted me when he agreed about the fear being realistic. NO .. stop the bs propaganda. .

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Reply #624 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 2:38am

Emma wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 2:15am:

I am astonished and horrified that celebs are saying ..'they are afraid', here in Oz. They are saying we are all afraid ... Ridiculous.. these media types just increase the BS hype. I am NOT afraid of terrorist attack. Ludicrous,, and all the blah blah about how afraid these people feel is JUST FODDER for the other sides cause. Stop feeding hysteria and fear...... Grow up and realise , no-one is ever SAFE...

How pathetic. Even Waleed disgusted me when he agreed about the fear being realistic. NO .. stop the bs propaganda. .

it depends on what you believe is SAFE......many years ago it was SAFE for a women or child to walk the streets of this country........we have long since lost that innocence......if my grandson is 5 minutes late coming home from school I start to worry......would I let them go to the beach unsupervised???... no I wouldnt.. yesteryear it was the norm.....

so far I havent seen blood on my streets.by people who apparently hate our guts.because we are not Muslim...

must I really see that before I feel FEAR????....

yes I do feel fear fear for my grandkids.. who may very well get to see things happen in their country that have never been seen before....

I know at least that all the children of terrorist grow up thinking a bloody death is normal......in fact its something to glorify ...

so far emma you are lucky to live in a country where you have no fear of going to a concert or a nightclub with the thought you could be blown to kingdom come...by your everyday normal terrorist...

lets hope that doesnt change anytime soon...

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Reply #625 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 3:05am

Indeed Cods. Thanks for your reply.

I just wish people could understand... life isn't SAFE. Never has been.
These people are only now starting to realise that they have no guarantee of safety. I find that perplexing. That they ever were so complacent in the first place. Guess they have had an easy life and never considered outcomes..

I have never taken safety for granted, hence I have no increased fear over recent happenings overseas. We have had a golden period of time, here in OZ. But it was never going to stay that way. There has never been any golden guarantee, regardless of your view of the past. People still got murdered.

Our isolation here in Oz no longer garners any idea of safety.
To expect safety is just a symptom of living in an unreal consumer-based society, where money answers all ills. NOW reality bites.

This is the world today. Personally I don't go to ANY mass human events. Not my thing. I understand that people are social animals... so. why fear ??

I suspect..? the actions of recent liberal governments have seriously increased the likelihood of repercussions. We do the deed, we have to expect results , not necessarily favourable to our ultimate security. ||||| Afraid\\\\\\\\\\//???

Blame Howard, if you need to blame anyone.

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #626 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 6:50am

Emma wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 2:15am:

Emma wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:28am:

rhino wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:22am:

who cares about history Emma, its the here and now which matters. societies and cultures should evolve, ours has, theirs hasnt.

Well Rhino ( Big Flappy Ears )

that is indeed the problem.

Except neither have evolved, at the core.

And ignoring the past does indeed lead to a repeat. Cool

My point IS... we have no claim to some sort of moral superiority.
We are the same as them. We cannot claim innocent victimhood.

We are ALL responsible for where we find ourselves today.

I am astonished and horrified that celebs are saying ..'they are afraid', here in Oz. They are saying we are all afraid ... Ridiculous.. these media types just increase the BS hype. I am NOT afraid of terrorist attack. Ludicrous,, and all the blah blah about how afraid these people feel is JUST FODDER for the other sides cause. Stop feeding hysteria and fear...... Grow up and realise , no-one is ever SAFE...

How pathetic. Even Waleed disgusted me when he agreed about the fear being realistic. NO .. stop the bs propaganda. .

hi numb nuts.
I dont live in fear that i will be killed in a motor vehicle accident either.
But that doesnt mean i refuse to support the police in having random breath stops to check for drink drivers.

tell me numb nuts, when the police pull you up for a random breath test, do you tell them to stop fear mongering?
do you tell them they are just being alcohol-o-phobics.

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #627 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 9:02am

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 2:38am:

it depends on what you believe is SAFE......many years ago it was SAFE for a women or child to walk the streets of this country........we have long since lost that innocence......if my grandson is 5 minutes late coming home from school I start to worry......would I let them go to the beach unsupervised???... no I wouldnt.. yesteryear it was the norm.....

"t was Australia Day and they were to spend the day, unsupervised, at Glenelg Beach — which at the time was not unusual.

"But the three children would never be seen by their parents again."

Beaumont children - 1966

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #628 - Jul 20^th, 2016 at 9:48pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 6:50am:

Emma wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 2:15am:

Emma wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:28am:

rhino wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:22am:

who cares about history Emma, its the here and now which matters. societies and cultures should evolve, ours has, theirs hasnt.

Well Rhino ( Big Flappy Ears )

that is indeed the problem.

Except neither have evolved, at the core.

And ignoring the past does indeed lead to a repeat. Cool

My point IS... we have no claim to some sort of moral superiority.
We are the same as them. We cannot claim innocent victimhood.

We are ALL responsible for where we find ourselves today.

I am astonished and horrified that celebs are saying ..'they are afraid', here in Oz. They are saying we are all afraid ... Ridiculous.. these media types just increase the BS hype. I am NOT afraid of terrorist attack. Ludicrous,, and all the blah blah about how afraid these people feel is JUST FODDER for the other sides cause. Stop feeding hysteria and fear...... Grow up and realise , no-one is ever SAFE...

How pathetic. Even Waleed disgusted me when he agreed about the fear being realistic. NO .. stop the bs propaganda. .

hi numb nuts.
I dont live in fear that i will be killed in a motor vehicle accident either.
But that doesnt mean i refuse to support the police in having random breath stops to check for drink drivers.

tell me numb nuts, when the police pull you up for a random breath test, do you tell them to stop fear mongering?
do you tell them they are just being alcohol-o-phobics.

That is a poor analogy. It has no bearing on these circumstances. Hey apparently, THE POLICE did stop him, and let him go, believing his story about delivering Ice-Cream. Cheesy

Not very effective eh?

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #629 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 6:59am

Emma wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 9:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 6:50am:

Emma wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 2:15am:

Emma wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:28am:

rhino wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 12:22am:

who cares about history Emma, its the here and now which matters. societies and cultures should evolve, ours has, theirs hasnt.

Well Rhino ( Big Flappy Ears )

that is indeed the problem.

Except neither have evolved, at the core.

And ignoring the past does indeed lead to a repeat. Cool

My point IS... we have no claim to some sort of moral superiority.
We are the same as them. We cannot claim innocent victimhood.

We are ALL responsible for where we find ourselves today.

I am astonished and horrified that celebs are saying ..'they are afraid', here in Oz. They are saying we are all afraid ... Ridiculous.. these media types just increase the BS hype. I am NOT afraid of terrorist attack. Ludicrous,, and all the blah blah about how afraid these people feel is JUST FODDER for the other sides cause. Stop feeding hysteria and fear...... Grow up and realise , no-one is ever SAFE...

How pathetic. Even Waleed disgusted me when he agreed about the fear being realistic. NO .. stop the bs propaganda. .

hi numb nuts.
I dont live in fear that i will be killed in a motor vehicle accident either.
But that doesnt mean i refuse to support the police in having random breath stops to check for drink drivers.

tell me numb nuts, when the police pull you up for a random breath test, do you tell them to stop fear mongering?
do you tell them they are just being alcohol-o-phobics.

That is a poor analogy. It has no bearing on these circumstances. Hey apparently, THE POLICE did stop him, and let him go, believing his story about delivering Ice-Cream. Cheesy

Not very effective eh?

Hey numb nuts, whats with the smiling emoticon.
Would you like to go to the Nice ICU and laugh at some of the dying children.
Tell them how funny you think it is?
Tell their parents not to be so fearful?
Tell them its all the fault of the police?

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