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Black Orchid Gold Member Offline Posts: 5824 Gender:	Re: Bastille Day attack in France Reply #390 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:13pm "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke
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Reply #392 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:18pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

Edmund Burke

we seem to be doing something... just not quick enough to stop anything.....

we seem to have more luck in this country.....so far a few have been arrested b efore they blow something up...maybe we are lucky enough not to be surrounded by this hatred.

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Mistress Nicole Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1278 Gender:	Re: Bastille Day attack in France Reply #393 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:20pm Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:13pm: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke Well said.
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Reply #394 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:28pm

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

Edmund Burke

we seem to be doing something... just not quick enough to stop anything.....

we seem to have more luck in this country.....so far a few have been arrested b efore they blow something up...maybe we are lucky enough not to be surrounded by this hatred.

We aren't doing anything except tossing many more millions of $$$ at them. $$$ to try to identify the worst and keep us safe from them. More $$$ to try to de-radicalise those that can never be de-radicalised and the idea of stopping potential terrorists from leaving to fight in Syria was ludicrous. We should have let them all go and then closed the door tight so they could never return. Instead we kept them here to fester.

Our luck is going to run out.

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Reply #395 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:04pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 8:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 11:48pm:

Many radicals need to be rounded up & questioned.

Start with the mosques. Every one of them should get probed from stem to stern. Any found to be in possession of weapons should be closed immediately and all mosque officials (if not members) deported immediately.

France also needs to quit playing pat-a-cake with radical imams and shady characters on the terrorist watch list. If there's even a shred of evidence that they've been preaching sedition or associating with known terrorists, ship them back to whatever Middle East orifice they crawled out of.

Then close the borders. Keep tabs on French citizens leaving for known terrorist hot spots and deny them re-entry. Refuse any additional Muslim refugees and deport the ones who are seeking asylum there.

Harsh? Yes, but even more so is the fact that there have been 16 terrorist attacks in France since 2012, and every one of them has been done in the name of Islam. Misbehaving guests need to leave the party -- through the door or through the window.

Either that or large concentration camps.

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Reply #396 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:33pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
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Edmund Burke

we seem to be doing something... just not quick enough to stop anything.....

we seem to have more luck in this country.....so far a few have been arrested b efore they blow something up...maybe we are lucky enough not to be surrounded by this hatred.

We aren't doing anything except tossing many more millions of $$$ at them. $$$ to try to identify the worst and keep us safe from them. More $$$ to try to de-radicalise those that can never be de-radicalised and the idea of stopping potential terrorists from leaving to fight in Syria was ludicrous. We should have let them all go and then closed the door tight so they could never return. Instead we kept them here to fester.

Our luck is going to run out.

Not to mention that - in Victoria at least - they're seriously talking about implementing de-radicalisation programs in primary schools.

If that doesn't tell you that importing Muslims is a bad idea, I don't know what does.

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Reply #397 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:40pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:33pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
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Edmund Burke

we seem to be doing something... just not quick enough to stop anything.....

we seem to have more luck in this country.....so far a few have been arrested b efore they blow something up...maybe we are lucky enough not to be surrounded by this hatred.

We aren't doing anything except tossing many more millions of $$$ at them. $$$ to try to identify the worst and keep us safe from them. More $$$ to try to de-radicalise those that can never be de-radicalised and the idea of stopping potential terrorists from leaving to fight in Syria was ludicrous. We should have let them all go and then closed the door tight so they could never return. Instead we kept them here to fester.

Our luck is going to run out.

Not to mention that - in Victoria at least - they're seriously talking about implementing de-radicalisation programs in primary schools.

If that doesn't tell you that importing Muslims is a bad idea, I don't know what does.

If the apologists like Brian,Mothra and Little pecca insist Islam has nothing to do with Islamic terror can they explain why we are spending more than $10 million a year in deradicalisation programs for muslims.

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #398 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:53pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:33pm:

Not to mention that - in Victoria at least - they're seriously talking about implementing de-radicalisation programs in primary schools.

I believe they are planning that in NSW too, alongside the ridiculous Safe Schools Program. I wonder what happened to the government's Radicalisation Awareness Kit that was to be passed out in schools and cited 'green activism' and 'alternative music' as links to terrorism?

Meanwhile students who have been a part of the de-radicalisation program for over a year have been arrested for conspiring to plot a terrorist attack (big fail) and our kids' education overall is continuing to slip down the gurgler.

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:33pm:

If that doesn't tell you that importing Muslims is a bad idea, I don't know what does.

Our government (left and right) has a lot to answer for and, hopefully, answer they will.

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Reply #399 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 1:14pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:33pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
The
Edmund Burke

we seem to be doing something... just not quick enough to stop anything.....

we seem to have more luck in this country.....so far a few have been arrested b efore they blow something up...maybe we are lucky enough not to be surrounded by this hatred.

We aren't doing anything except tossing many more millions of $$$ at them. $$$ to try to identify the worst and keep us safe from them. More $$$ to try to de-radicalise those that can never be de-radicalised and the idea of stopping potential terrorists from leaving to fight in Syria was ludicrous. We should have let them all go and then closed the door tight so they could never return. Instead we kept them here to fester.

Our luck is going to run out.

Not to mention that - in Victoria at least - they're seriously talking about implementing de-radicalisation programs in primary schools.

If that doesn't tell you that importing Muslims is a bad idea, I don't know what does.

Funny how we never have to de-radicalize Hindus. Or Buddhists. Or, for that matter, Jehovah's Witnesses.

Only Muslims.

Which makes about as much sense as saying, "We don't agree with the KKK's hatred of black people, so let's allow 10,000 of them into our country -- and then try to convince them they're wrong."

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Reply #400 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 1:15pm

I dont think any govt could have foreseen what we are seeing today.... so dont lets start blaming the govt...

again we do have to look at who is doing the radicalising in the first place......we allow the book shops to sell just about anything.. the politically correct have made it quite clear we have to live with them.. not them live with us..

its pathetic...these young people are being got at....its no different to the drug pushers.....they are bending their minds.. just as drugs do... for all we know they may even be giving these young people drugs to win them over in the first place..

we are like sitting ducks... because someone may criticise us......

god forbid..

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Reply #401 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 1:21pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

Which makes about as much sense as saying, "We don't agree with the KKK's hatred of black people, so let's allow 10,000 of them into our country -- and then try to convince them they're wrong."

- All members of the KKK hate black people.

- Not all Muslims are radicalised, though.

See where you went wrong there?

You allowed your irrational fear & hatred of all things 'different' to get in the way of your rational thought processes.

I've noticed that happens a lot with you.

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Reply #402 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 1:23pm

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 1:15pm:

I dont think any govt could have foreseen what we are seeing today.... so dont lets start blaming the govt...

again we do have to look at who is doing the radicalising in the first place......we allow the book shops to sell just about anything.. the politically correct have made it quite clear we have to live with them.. not them live with us..

its pathetic...these young people are being got at....its no different to the drug pushers.....they are bending their minds.. just as drugs do... for all we know they may even be giving these young people drugs to win them over in the first place..

we are like sitting ducks... because someone may criticise us......

god forbid..

Radicalization is a myth. It is used by the liberal media to defelect attention away from the ugliness written in the Koran that Muzlims study and bow down to. Every time there is a Muzlim atrocity, we need to hit back harder, in the communities that produce the Martyrs.

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Reply #403 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 1:23pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 11:26am:

Regarding your last sentence, that was my view. But it's changed.

If he's elected, Trump wants to declare war and hit ISIS hard. I agree. And it should be noted in this context that Trump has been critical of bush jnrs invasion of Iraq

Different ball game now.

ISIS, like al-Qaeda, is a floating crap game. The Afghanistan experience is a clear demonstration of how Western forces can do no more than teach the local militia how to hold a gun and defend their cities and towns against the insurgents. Once that's been achieved, Western troops should be recalled home - lock, stock, and barrel.

It's been 15 years since the West put boots on the ground over there in Afghanistan, and not only are the terrorist groups stronger than ever, but apparently 15-goddamned-years hasn't been enough time to drill the locals into some semblance of being a respectable militia ...

... and while all this expensive and life-costing bullshit has been going on for a staggering 15 years - (three times longer than the Second World War) - hundreds of young Afghani men of military age have been migrating to the West to take up jobs as taxi-drivers, Supermarket trolley-boys, security guards, and dole-queue 'clients'.

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Reply #404 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 1:25pm

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 1:15pm:

I dont think any govt could have foreseen what we are seeing today.... so dont lets start blaming the govt...

again we do have to look at who is doing the radicalising in the first place......we allow the book shops to sell just about anything.. the politically correct have made it quite clear we have to live with them.. not them live with us..

its pathetic...these young people are being got at....its no different to the drug pushers.....they are bending their minds.. just as drugs do... for all we know they may even be giving these young people drugs to win them over in the first place..

we are like sitting ducks... because someone may criticise us......

god forbid..

Well, I suspect that quite a few politically correct, multiculturalist French people woke up with a different attitude toward Islam this morning.

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