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Reply #270 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:13pm

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What 20 yo male with a sound mind would honestly believe that if they murder someone they will get a root in heaven as a reward ?

You make my point and that of Mr Peccary very well and succinctly.

He is just a loser, a dick head, insane if you like, scum bag garden variety murderer, and we ought give him no more credit than that.

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Reply #271 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:19pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 2:44pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 2:32pm:

There is a reason why we never see people blowing up, driving through, shooting dead, or beheading groups of people in the name of Mickey Mouse or the girl guides.

Tell us more.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/03/Martin_Bryant.jpg/220px-Mar...

He did it in the name of Mickey Mouse did he?

Fuking idiot.

He didn't do it "in the name of Islam".

Thus, argument destroyed.

Why do you continue to shift the blame away from murderers?

1 nut job kills people because he is a nut, so that means when 1000 Muslims kill people in the name of Islam it has nothing to do with Islam...

Fuking idiot.

So, the truck driver in France wasn't a nut?

First you shift the blame away from him, and now you openly defend him.

Quite incredible.

didn't you watch 4 corners on Monday ? It is proof that muslims are retarded or have very low IQ.

What 20 yo male with a sound mind would honestly believe that if they murder someone they will get a root in an imaginary heaven as a reward ?

Yes - I saw that too sir Nail,

They can imagine & believe anything.

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #272 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:21pm

Panther wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

The USA is a large country with 300 million people -
you'd think they'd be able to find someone better than those two numbskulls -
Trump & Hilary.

It would have been worse if the Republican establishment had gotten its wish -- most likely Jeb Bush, who thinks illegal immigration is an "act of love."

Roosevelt locked up all the Japs.

Would Trump lock up all the Mussies?

Why lock them up -- then you have to feed them.

Ideally he'd ship them out. But the Vichy Republicans in Congress would never approve such a thing, so he'd probably have to settle for just keeping out "Syrian" refugees.

But this is war.

What are you calling for.......an all out, door to door, mosque to mosque, Guerrilla Warfare against Islam, where prisoners aren't even a consideration???

Are you calling for that???

Specifically, who are you declaring to be the enemy???

War is where enemies are killed.

All radical Islamists - even suspected ones -

need to be locked up for the duration of the war.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150608 Gender:	Re: Bastille Day attack in France Reply #273 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:24pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:08pm: What 20 yo male with a sound mind would honestly believe that if they murder someone they will get a root in an imaginary heaven as a reward ? None, in my opinion.
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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #274 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:24pm

Hollande: 'France Is Under the Threat of Islamic Terrorism'

Google;
hollande, france under the threat islamic terrorism

THINK ABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT HOLLANDE SAID.

Hollande: 'France Is Under the Threat of Islamic Terrorism'
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If there were no moslems living in France, [logically] there would have been;

No Charlie Hebdo attack.

No Bataclan attack.

No Bastille Day attack in Nice.

So, what is the solution ?

How could we [almost 100%], prevent ISLAMIC terrorist atrocities, by 'rogue' members of the local moslem community ?

Alternatively;

We could keep doing, what we have been doing for the last two decades.

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I make my arguments here.

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
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"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

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A moslem is a follower of ISLAM. < -------- dictionary definition.

Yadda said....
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QUESTION;

Who or what, is a moslem ???

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM. < -------- dictionary definition.

And mainstream ISLAM is a philosophy which [within its doctrines, and tenets, and laws] teaches every moslem, .....that a moslem who murders an enemy of Allah, is a good and virtuous person.

But, what or who, is 'an enemy of Allah' ???

ISLAM [in the Koran] defines anyone who is a disbeliever, as an enemy of Allah!

Seriously,

......is it any wonder that so many 'nice' people, suddenly buy an airline ticket for Turkey [i.e. Syria], or walk into a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney, or go to the local mosque to obtain a pistol, .....and then turn into homicidal maniacs ?

No, ....it isn't.

Because;

Every moslem, is a moslem.

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CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0
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Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers'].

.....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

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But what about innocent moslems, who live among us, and who preach peaceful co-existence with others?

An 'innocent moslem', is a mythical creature, imo!

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IMAGE...

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Bastille Day attack in France Reply #276 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:34pm Get ready folks, this kind of stunt is coming to a street corner near you. And it will not be a Buddhist, or a Jew driving the truck. It'll be one of those Zombies who quotes the Koran and bows to Mecca.
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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #277 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:34pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:24pm:

Hollande: 'France Is Under the Threat of Islamic Terrorism'

Google;
hollande, france under the threat islamic terrorism

THINK ABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT HOLLANDE SAID.

Hollande: 'France Is Under the Threat of Islamic Terrorism'
= =
If there were no moslems living in France, [logically] there would have been;

No Charlie Hebdo attack.

No Bataclan attack.

No Bastille Day attack in Nice.

Hollande: 'France Is Under the Threat of Islamic Terrorism'

Google;
hollande, france under the threat islamic terrorism

THINK ABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT HOLLANDE SAID.

THINK ABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT HOLLANDE SAID.

THINK ABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT HOLLANDE SAID.

x 100 !!!!!!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #278 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:36pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 10:58am:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 10:42am:

this is another terrible crime in France.. why France I do not understand.. but there it is....one wonders how this can happen in these days of HIGH ALERT what has happened to security in this country....no warning no warnings at all....isnt that strange??....

The official "High Alert" ran out after the last attack and wasn't renewed, hence more relaxed security on this occasion

I am hoping you are joking.....since Charlie Hebo.it has been one thing after another in France......

and as we all know it attracts many tourists all year round....this guy had a collection of guns and bomb making material in that semi......how come it all went unnoticed..... they seem to know he was radicalised...and was born in Tunisia...how come they can find all this out in a flash yet he seems to be able to commit a crime of this size before anyone stops him????????????????......

they do know these madmen cannot blow up planes anymore.. so their targets are on the ground.....Bastille day should have had all places swarming with police and army.......yet this guy drove one hell of a long way along the Nice promenade ..before a bullet found him... Angry

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Reply #280 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:24pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

What 20 yo male with a sound mind would honestly believe that if they murder someone they will get a root in an imaginary heaven as a reward ?

None, in my opinion.

this is what people do not understand... its the same with cults....

if you tell people what is bad...

in this case... infidels are evil..and hate ISlam and want all Muslims put to death.. then it isnt hard to sell them the rest...

hummmmmmmm 72 virgins....well gotta be a reward on the other side hasnt there...

the mind is a most fertile easy to manipulate piece of material especially in youth.... male youth in particular...

I have always said commonsense is becoming extinct........ Roll Eyes

and young men do not have a jot of commonsense....

and dont forget its all secret...

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Reply #281 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:51pm

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and as we all know it attracts many tourists all year round....

I don't know, but I'll take your word for it.

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this guy had a collection of guns and bomb making material in that semi......how come it all went unnoticed.....

Good question.

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they seem to know he was radicalised...

You are more up-to-date than anyone else. Link?

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and was born in Tunisia...

That is not known. What has been reported is that there were allegedly some documents in the Truck which referred to some Tunisian. Might have been the owner of the Truck, stolen by dick-head. Don't leap to conclusions based on schmedia anecdotal reporting.

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how come they can find all this out in a flash yet he seems to be able to commit a crime of this size before anyone stops him????????????????......

See above.

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they do know these madmen cannot blow up planes anymore.. so their targets are on the ground.....Bastille day should have had all places swarming with police and army.......yet this guy drove one hell of a long way along the Nice promenade ..before a bullet found him...

Again, good question, and yeas the place would have been bristling with what has turned out to be useless security.

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #282 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:51pm

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 10:58am:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 10:42am:

this is another terrible crime in France.. why France I do not understand.. but there it is....one wonders how this can happen in these days of HIGH ALERT what has happened to security in this country....no warning no warnings at all....isnt that strange??....

The official "High Alert" ran out after the last attack and wasn't renewed, hence more relaxed security on this occasion

I am hoping you are joking.....since Charlie Hebo.it has been one thing after another in France......

and as we all know it attracts many tourists all year round....this guy had a collection of guns and bomb making material in that semi......how come it all went unnoticed..... they seem to know he was radicalised...and was born in Tunisia...how come they can find all this out in a flash yet he seems to be able to commit a crime of this size before anyone stops him????????????????......

they do know these madmen cannot blow up planes anymore.. so their targets are on the ground.....Bastille day should have had all places swarming with police and army.......yet this guy drove one hell of a long way along the Nice promenade ..before a bullet found him... Angry

You can't defend against this stuff. Any Muslim can go clickers at any time without any history of terrorism. In fact, as they have a habit of killing themselves in the process of mass murder, there obviously isn't any history of terrorism to go off.

In this particular case, a truck suddenly goes through a crowd. How do you prepare for that? How do you stop that from happening? If you suddenly decided tomorrow to mount the footpath and run down as many people as you can, what could have possibly have been done to prevent that?

Society can only exist on the trust that the person beside you isn't out to kill you. Anyone in any factory or restaurant can drop crushed glass in your food. Anyone driving a car can use it as a weapon. Anyone can just walk up and inject you with bleach if they want. We just have to trust that people won't. The problem with Muslims is that once they are in your country there is a high chance one of them at any time will try this shlt, and there is nothing you can do to prevent it.

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Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Reply #283 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:56pm

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The problem with Muslims is that once they are in your country there is a high chance one of them at any time will try this shlt, and there is nothing you can do to prevent it.

There is you know. It is something we have never tried. Get the ferk out of Arabia, and bloody-well stay out. How about that novel idea, hey?

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Reply #284 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 6:01pm

Quantum wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

You can't defend against this stuff. Any Muslim can go clickers at any time without any history of terrorism. In fact, as they have a habit of killing themselves in the process of mass murder, there obviously isn't any history of terrorism to go off.

In this particular case, a truck suddenly goes through a crowd. How do you prepare for that? How do you stop that from happening? If you suddenly decided tomorrow to mount the footpath and run down as many people as you can, what could have possibly have been done to prevent that?

Society can only exist on the trust that the person beside you isn't out to kill you. Anyone in any factory or restaurant can drop crushed glass in your food. Anyone driving a car can use it as a weapon. Anyone can just walk up and inject you with bleach if they want. We just have to trust that people won't. The problem with Muslims is that once they are in your country there is a high chance one of them at any time will try this shlt, and there is nothing you can do to prevent it.

oh I disagree. HIGH ALERT....remember they should be watching .... and this guy accumulated guns a material to blow things up....he had a semi....he was able to drive it into a very crowded area..... Roll Eyes

they know almost everything about him probably before he was killed....

so he must have been on the radar....they say he was radicalised...... for petes sake....

this guy shot people he was shooting for some time.... Roll Eyes

as well as running them down with a huge truck...

he killed 84.....one man killed 84.....not bad for one cell...

yet he got away with it...

he planned to die...he may have even planned on blowing the truck up....

all I think is.. it took them a long time to take him out...........if he was running through the streets I can say ok.. but he was in a bloody great truck

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