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Re: Incoming UK PM equivocal on Sharia
Reply #45 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 7:56pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

Ah yes, but religions discriminate against people all the time. In Australia, to do this legally, all they have to do is obtain an exemption through EEO or the Human Rights Commission.

I'm allowed to be discriminated against by the Salvos. They're perfectly able to knock me back for employment because I'm not a Christian. I'm allowed to be knocked back for jobs in domestic violence shelters, Aboriginal positions, jobs as Greek Orthodox priests, rabbis, vicars, etc, etc, etc.

Religions discriminate all the time. In Jewish courts, parties are required to cover their heads. Believe it or not, the Old Testament is pretty discriminatory too.

Whether this is "right" or not is not the issue. If the parties seek such justice with informed consent, this covers discrimination legislation.

None of which compare with the abuse that women and children suffer before Sharia courts. They coerce women to sign agreements to abide by their decisions even though they are not legal. Sharia courts enable the abuse of women and have no place in western society.

None at all.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39840 Gender:	Re: Incoming UK PM equivocal on Sharia Reply #46 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 7:58pm Quote: They coerce women to sign agreements to abide by their decisions even though they are not legal. Then, given they are 'not legal,' the coerced women can trot off to the real Courts and get the remedy.
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Re: Incoming UK PM equivocal on Sharia
Reply #47 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:02pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 7:56pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

Ah yes, but religions discriminate against people all the time. In Australia, to do this legally, all they have to do is obtain an exemption through EEO or the Human Rights Commission.

I'm allowed to be discriminated against by the Salvos. They're perfectly able to knock me back for employment because I'm not a Christian. I'm allowed to be knocked back for jobs in domestic violence shelters, Aboriginal positions, jobs as Greek Orthodox priests, rabbis, vicars, etc, etc, etc.

Religions discriminate all the time. In Jewish courts, parties are required to cover their heads. Believe it or not, the Old Testament is pretty discriminatory too.

Whether this is "right" or not is not the issue. If the parties seek such justice with informed consent, this covers discrimination legislation.

None of which compare with the abuse that women and children suffer before Sharia courts. They coerce women to sign agreements to abide by their decisions even though they are not legal. Sharia courts enable the abuse of women and have no place in western society.

None at all.

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Mistress Nicole Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1278 Gender:	Re: Incoming UK PM equivocal on Sharia Reply #48 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:04pm Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 7:58pm: Quote: They coerce women to sign agreements to abide by their decisions even though they are not legal. Then, given they are 'not legal,' the coerced women can trot off to the real Courts and get the remedy. Go to dictionary.com and look up "coerce", mor*n.
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Re: Incoming UK PM equivocal on Sharia
Reply #49 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:11pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 7:58pm:

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They coerce women to sign agreements to abide by their decisions even though they are not legal.

Then, given they are 'not legal,' the coerced women can trot off to the real Courts and get the remedy.

Go to dictionary.com and look up "coerce", mor*n.

I have no need. I know what the word means. So, does the Westminster Judicial System.

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Re: Incoming UK PM equivocal on Sharia
Reply #50 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:15pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 8:08pm:

Theresa May has apparently been running an enquiry, as Home Secretary, into the consequences of Sharia operating alongside British law.

When pushed on where she sees this going, she said her main concern was on the issue of gender equality but she did say there may be benefits for Muslims.

Do we have another Merkel here? Another secret quisling ready to sell out western civilisation, the heritage of the Enlightenment and everything generations of people died for?

Let's hope not. The last thing we want is civil war.

On the contrary.

I had hoped she would put some backbone into Britain's misnamed 'Conservative Party', but the feeling I'm getting from the little snippets here and there of her various viewpoints is that once again the UK will have a prime minister who will spend her term in office making sure not to offend any of the minority communities for any reason whatsoever.

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Re: Incoming UK PM equivocal on Sharia
Reply #51 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:27pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 7:56pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

Ah yes, but religions discriminate against people all the time. In Australia, to do this legally, all they have to do is obtain an exemption through EEO or the Human Rights Commission.

I'm allowed to be discriminated against by the Salvos. They're perfectly able to knock me back for employment because I'm not a Christian. I'm allowed to be knocked back for jobs in domestic violence shelters, Aboriginal positions, jobs as Greek Orthodox priests, rabbis, vicars, etc, etc, etc.

Religions discriminate all the time. In Jewish courts, parties are required to cover their heads. Believe it or not, the Old Testament is pretty discriminatory too.

Whether this is "right" or not is not the issue. If the parties seek such justice with informed consent, this covers discrimination legislation.

None of which compare with the abuse that women and children suffer before Sharia courts. They coerce women to sign agreements to abide by their decisions even though they are not legal. Sharia courts enable the abuse of women and have no place in western society.

None at all.

All agreements between two conflicting parties involve an element of coercion, Black.

But there is no way to force someone to abide by a Sharia agreement. Sharia rulings often end up contested in the Family Court.- by women.

If rulings are not enforcable, this ultimately means there is no real coercion.

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Reply #52 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:29pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:11pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 7:58pm:

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They coerce women to sign agreements to abide by their decisions even though they are not legal.

Then, given they are 'not legal,' the coerced women can trot off to the real Courts and get the remedy.

Go to dictionary.com and look up "coerce", mor*n.

I have no need. I know what the word means. So, does the Westminster Judicial System.

Nicole's taken quite a shine to you, Aussie.

Are you wearing a new cologne?

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Reply #53 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:30pm

"Theresa May has claimed Muslims in Britain “benefit greatly” from Sharia law as she launched plans for an “independent inquiry,” headed by a Muslim and guided by two “leading imams," into whether some of the controversial courts’ judgements are at odds with British gender equality laws".

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It's just too pathetic to take seriously. It just leaves old ex-pats like me speechless and praying for another Guy Fawkes to come along and send these 'globalists' into the stratosphere on a pillar of broiling smoke.

How many more UK governments must come and go before a British patriot and preservationist is finally elected into the top job to rescue the country from slipping further into this morass of multicultural madness??

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Reply #54 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:32pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:30pm:

"Theresa May has claimed Muslims in Britain “benefit greatly” from Sharia law as she launched plans for an “independent inquiry,” headed by a Muslim and guided by two “leading imams," into whether some of the controversial courts’ judgements are at odds with British gender equality laws".

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It's just too pathetic to take seriously. It just leaves old ex-pats like me speechless ...

Stop teasing, Herbert.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39840 Gender:	Re: Incoming UK PM equivocal on Sharia Reply #55 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:34pm Quote: If rulings are not enforcable, this ultimately means there is no real coercion. Stop that Karnal. Take it back right now. If you don't, you'll have Nicole Page 2016 telling you that you are as dumb as a sack full of rocks. Go on....take it back. You know you must, or risk fallopian wrath.
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Reply #56 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:36pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 4:07pm:

The videos of her taking on the bearded nutjobs who preach Islam are very impressive, a remarkable woman who deserves more recognition for her work in human and womens rights.

Since Nobel Prizes have long since been hijacked by the liberal-progressives, she hasn't a hope in hell of receiving a call to fly to Stockholm any time soon.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39840 Gender:	Re: Incoming UK PM equivocal on Sharia Reply #57 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:36pm Quote: Nicole's taken quite a shine to you, Aussie. Are you wearing a new cologne? Nah, she's always been under my spell, just like some of the other Ladies here. You have to forgive them, you know. They are only human.
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Re: Incoming UK PM equivocal on Sharia
Reply #58 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:37pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:27pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 7:56pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

Ah yes, but religions discriminate against people all the time. In Australia, to do this legally, all they have to do is obtain an exemption through EEO or the Human Rights Commission.

I'm allowed to be discriminated against by the Salvos. They're perfectly able to knock me back for employment because I'm not a Christian. I'm allowed to be knocked back for jobs in domestic violence shelters, Aboriginal positions, jobs as Greek Orthodox priests, rabbis, vicars, etc, etc, etc.

Religions discriminate all the time. In Jewish courts, parties are required to cover their heads. Believe it or not, the Old Testament is pretty discriminatory too.

Whether this is "right" or not is not the issue. If the parties seek such justice with informed consent, this covers discrimination legislation.

None of which compare with the abuse that women and children suffer before Sharia courts. They coerce women to sign agreements to abide by their decisions even though they are not legal. Sharia courts enable the abuse of women and have no place in western society.

None at all.

All agreements between two conflicting parties involve an element of coercion, Black.

But there is no way to force someone to abide by a Sharia agreement. Sharia rulings often end up contested in the Family Court.- by women.

If rulings are not enforcable, this ultimately means there is no real coercion.

You know very well there is a lot of coercion that takes place out of sight. Maybe some of your good friends here handle things that way.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Incoming UK PM equivocal on Sharia Reply #59 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:38pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:46am: Totally disappointing Theresa has no knowledge of islam the cult She might start to wake up when some of the Muslim luminaries refuse to shake her hand.
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