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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Tony Blair - Chilcot Inquiry - Iraq Invasion Jul 7^th, 2016 at 8:27am So Tony Blair has his feet put to the fire... Kudos to the British for holding their former leader accountable. Would that the US and Australia did the same with Bush and Howard... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-07/chilcot-report-condemned-over-iraq-tony-bl...
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 23679 ACT Gender:	Re: Tony Blair - Chilcot Inquiry - Iraq Invasion Reply #1 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 8:32am We may have to wait for an Australian Labor Government to make JWH walk over the hot coals. Then hang the bastard as they should do with Blair and Bush!
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Tony Blair - Chilcot Inquiry - Iraq Invasion Reply #2 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 8:40am Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 8:32am: We may have to wait for an Australian Labor Government to make JWH walk over the hot coals. We've had two since Howard.
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 23679 ACT Gender:	Re: Tony Blair - Chilcot Inquiry - Iraq Invasion Reply #3 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 8:54am NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 8:40am: Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 8:32am: We may have to wait for an Australian Labor Government to make JWH walk over the hot coals. We've had two since Howard. Then we need a better "terms of reference" for the third one! then hang the bastard!
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Reply #4 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 9:00am

It was the sheer amateurism and bumbling incompetence at such a high level of Western leadership that is so appalling about this whole sorry-assed episode in British and American history - and one that is only rivalled in recent times by the criminal lack of information-sharing between the American security agencies that allowed 9/11 to happen.

Tony Blair is a two-time major political criminal for not only the WMD debacle, but also for having social-engineered the swamping of Britain's major cities with alien races and cultures through a strategy of mass-immigration.

At any other time in history this political criminal would be in the Tower of London awaiting the hangman's noose.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Tony Blair - Chilcot Inquiry - Iraq Invasion Reply #5 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 6:11pm It took them this long to figure out the Iraq War was a scam? That is the measure of how much money some people made out if.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Tony Blair - Chilcot Inquiry - Iraq Invasion Reply #6 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 11:42pm What is the point of leadership if not that leaders are liable to be held to account? What does it say of a nation that does not hold its leaders to account? What kind of leaders do we Australians want, that we would not want them to be held to public account? What does it say of us ?
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Reply #7 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:04am

After the plebian witch hunt that followed the Vietnam war, where soldiers were largely held personally accountable for the fact that they were there in the first place, it seems the lesson Australia has learned is (thankfully) not to castigate the nation's servicemen and women, nor, at the same time, to glorify the necessary actions of war.

However, it seems we have also determined that we must maintain a stultifying silence on most if not all criticism of our leaders regarding the case for war at all.

We are certainly not clamouring for an Australian 'Chilcot' Report... And seem smugly content (perhaps more a display of moral cowardice than smugness) to hide behind our overlord, the US, by ignoring the need for any investigation into culpability or otherwise of our leaders.

Which is an interesting and indicting irony on our national character given the energy which we expend on our 'moral outrage' of boat people 'breaching our borders'... As if these ragtag fishing boats carrying its pitiful cargo were actually a foreign 'armada' - Like the one we contributed to when invading Iraq (wrongfully, as it turns out).

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Reply #8 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:23am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 11:42pm:

What is the point of leadership if not that leaders are liable to be held to account?

What does it say of a nation that does not hold its leaders to account?

What kind of leaders do we Australians want, that we would not want them to be held to public account?

What does it say of us ?

I totally agree.

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Reply #9 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:28am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:04am:

We are certainly not clamouring for an Australian 'Chilcot' Report... And seem smugly content (perhaps more a display of moral cowardice than smugness) to hide behind our overlord, the US, by ignoring the need for any investigation into culpability or otherwise of our leaders.

I totally agree. Cool

There should be a special prison exclusively reserved for our politicians just as there is a jail a little south of Sydney that caters exclusively to the incarceration of crooked cops.

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Reply #10 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:06am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 11:42pm:

What is the point of leadership if not that leaders are liable to be held to account?

What does it say of a nation that does not hold its leaders to account?

What kind of leaders do we Australians want, that we would not want them to be held to public account?

What does it say of us ?

I totally agree.

If there's one quality the British seem to have in spades, its moral courage.

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Reply #11 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:16am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:06am:

If there's one quality the British seem to have in spades, its moral courage.

Bullshit!

For decades the UK leadership has shown zero 'moral courage' in safe-guarding the interests of its own people.

Rotherham is a case in point. While a score of City Elders sat preening themselves for yonkers as anti-racist advocates, 1,400 children were meanwhile being handed around as sex-dolls to be used and abused by the local Muslim fraternity.

There's no-one more morally gutless than British politicians and people in leadership positions.

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GLII Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 76 East of the divide Gender:	Re: Tony Blair - Chilcot Inquiry - Iraq Invasion Reply #12 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:32am Lots of hindsight going on here.
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Reply #13 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 11:04am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:16am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:06am:

If there's one quality the British seem to have in spades, its moral courage.

Bullshit!

For decades the UK leadership has shown zero 'moral courage' in safe-guarding the interests of its own people.

I said British not British politicians or British leaders...

And, of course, 'the British' is a generalisation... I'm sure there are actual examples of British craven scum.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Tony Blair - Chilcot Inquiry - Iraq Invasion Reply #14 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 11:10am GLII wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:32am: Lots of hindsight going on here. And how unusual is it for inquiry to be conducted 'with hindsight'??
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