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Happy Independence Day America!!!
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Reply #1 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 12:03pm

For bugger's sake...

The American Revolution was nothing more than a rich man's war over neocolonialism. A "revolution" based upon endless contradictions and bourgeois social relations. "All men to be created equal" is the biggest American myth alive today for America built its economy based upon slavery.

Bullshit bourgeoisie slave-owners and AND capitalists who all knew too god damn well the conflict between the institution of slavery and the principles they professed.

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Reply #2 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 12:14pm

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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 15036 Colorado Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #4 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 12:38pm Oh, let it go, Panther.
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Reply #5 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 12:51pm

Marla wrote on Jul 5^th, 2016 at 12:38pm:

Oh, let it go, Panther.

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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 15036 Colorado Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #6 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 12:57pm Why don't you just move to America Panther since you want to ass kiss the place so much?
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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11939 Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #7 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:01pm Marla wrote on Jul 5^th, 2016 at 12:57pm: Why don't you just move to America Panther since you want to ass kiss the place so much? You may ass kiss things you like....As for me, I prefer to show respect & admiration.
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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 15036 Colorado Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #8 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:02pm Yeah, that's referred to as ass kissing.
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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11939 Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #9 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:10pm Marla wrote on Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:02pm: Yeah, that's referred to as ass kissing. Choose any words you wish to describe your own beliefs & customs, that's your absolute right. I choose to differ, which is my absolute right.
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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 15036 Colorado Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #10 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:12pm You're like a right-wing HAL from 2001.
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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11939 Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #11 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:29pm Marla wrote on Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:12pm: You're like a right-wing HAL from 2001. Awwwww, flattery ......... gotta luv it....
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Reply #12 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:32pm

Thanks Panther, you're a gentleman and a scholar!
We did the stereotypical fourth of July , beer, hot dogs, hamburgers, watermelon, potato salad.... The kids swam in the pool and the old folks talked about younger days and their aches and pains. It was a great get together, I wonder how much longer it will represent Independent Day.

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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 15036 Colorado Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #13 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:38pm Yeah morty torty, nothing represents America's original provincial backwater colonies whose Declaration proclaimed all men to be created equal came from states whose economies were based on slavery like burgers, fries, and god damn hot dogs, is there?
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Reply #14 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:40pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:32pm:

Thanks Panther, you're a gentleman and a scholar!
We did the stereotypical fourth of July , beer, hot dogs, hamburgers, watermelon, potato salad.... The kids swam in the pool and the old folks talked about younger days and their aches and pains. It was a great get together, I wonder how much longer it will represent Independent Day.

As long as you keep your well regulated firearms near, & your powder dry, God help anyone that tries to take it away!

All the best....to you & yours Mort.

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Mistress Nicole Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1278 Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #15 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 2:56pm Happy Independence Day Mort. I for one am proud Australia counts America as a friend.
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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #16 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 4:19pm I dedicate this video to marlene
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Paki gob on a stick Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103809	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #17 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 4:59pm God bless the white race, Panther.
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Mortdooley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7315 Texas Gulf Coast Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #18 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 9:44pm Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 5^th, 2016 at 4:59pm: God bless the white race, Panther. Sour grapes or just being rude?
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #19 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 9:54pm Mortdooley wrote on Jul 5^th, 2016 at 9:44pm: Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 5^th, 2016 at 4:59pm: God bless the white race, Panther. Sour grapes or just being rude? Mort, that is what passes for a Republican in this country.
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Mortdooley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7315 Texas Gulf Coast Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #20 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 9:58pm I would guess Liberal Democrat, here it might be a Race hustler who only wants to agitate.
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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 15036 Colorado Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #21 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 12:52am innocentbystander. wrote on Jul 5^th, 2016 at 4:19pm: I dedicate this video to marlene An Inforwars stamp collecting limey? That's the best you can do rockskull?
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Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Reply #22 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 1:31am

Marla wrote on Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:38pm:

Yeah morty torty, nothing represents America's original provincial backwater colonies whose Declaration proclaimed all men to be created equal came from states whose economies were based on slavery like burgers, fries, and god damn hot dogs, is there?

"Don't it always seem to go ... that you don't know what you've got till it's gone ..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #23 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 2:09am I enjoy my visits but Americans on the whole have to be the dumbest people walking this earth.
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Reply #25 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 2:24am

Marla wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 2:19am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 2:09am:

I enjoy my visits but Americans on the whole have to be the dumbest people walking this earth.

Ever been to Texuss? It's gets worse. Much worse.

A long time ago I spent some time in Dallas.

I am in the US 6 times per year - 5 work related in LA and NY and one vacation (Disneyland next month - this will be far the most difficult visit).

I just find Americans to be incredibly nice (even the New Yorkers) but infuriating same time.

At Heathrow their simple inability to understand how to fill out a form, go through the right gate, stare blankly at screens not comprehending that the British Airways plane is actually the American Airlines plane as well under a code share etc

I don't know if its idiocy or ignorance - or both but they kill me.

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Reply #26 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 2:28am

I worked in South Carolina and Mississippi a few years back and the general level of understanding of the world shocked me.

One guy - who wouldn't strike you as a rocket scientist but he was no utter m-ron - he didn't know where Great Britain was.
I mean I get not knowing intricacies of countries etc but how can you actually reach the age of about 25 and not know where the UK is on the map.

My favourite from that time was talking to a girl whose father was in the US army and had been stationed outside the US for a period of time.
She said it was somewhere beginning with S. I must have spent 10 mins at best listing every country I know with S - Surinam, Sweden, Somalia, Switzerland - I even listed Syria....

Later on her sister came through and told me he was stationed in Cyprus...

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #27 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 3:15am I have been back living and working in the USA for a few years now, in Atlanta actually. Like you say Andrei, Americans are incredibly nice, sometimes annoyingly so, but their worldview can be infuriating, and their tendency towards polar opposites regarding the simplest matters is puzzling.
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Reply #29 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 4:51am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 2:24am:

A long time ago I spent some time in Dallas.

I am in the US 6 times per year - 5 work related in LA and NY and one vacation (Disneyland next month - this will be far the most difficult visit).

I just find Americans to be incredibly nice (even the New Yorkers) but infuriating same time.

At Heathrow their simple inability to understand how to fill out a form, go through the right gate, stare blankly at screens not comprehending that the British Airways plane is actually the American Airlines plane as well under a code share etc

I don't know if its idiocy or ignorance - or both but they kill me.

I'd say for the most part that is true. Ask any American kid where Central America is and they will most likely tell you "Kansas." I was only in New York (Manhattan proper) for two days so really can't say much about the politeness of the populace there. When I was stationed at Paris Island in South Carolina did I meet some of the nicest, friendliest people but that again, I think that's just the way of the south or that's the way they treat those in the service; the people there have a sense of charm about them.

By far the worst people I've ever met (besides Texuuns and southern Californians) were the British. Didn't care much for London. I found the place to be one of the dirtiest places on earth (once you get passed the tourist traps) and being an American it's just so ingrained to say "Have a nice day" to someone - but not the limeys. "Don't tell me what kind of a smacking day I should have you bloody Yank." was usually the response back.

Have never been to Australia but have found most of the Australians I have run across to be quiet in comparison with others foreigners I've run across. A Briton living here will boast how about friggin' English they are and how much they really don't care for America except for, of course, "Florrrreeeda" or that their really crappy band is living in L.A. flophouse apartment knowing they are "going to make it "big" someday.

Ask any Australian here where they are from and they'll simply say, "Australia, mate." and that's it. They go back to what they were doing. No complaints, no boasting, nothing.

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Reply #31 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 5:29am

Marla wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 4:51am:

By far the worst people I've ever met were the British.

It's true. To make matters worse Brits living in the States take advantage of the fact that Americans are suckers for an English accent. It makes me sick watching Brits getting away with murder because of their accent.

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Reply #32 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 6:40am

Marla wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 4:57am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 3:58am:

Why is Marna so angry. I thought she was a proud American.

A socialist American.

Ok, you have rambled on about your love of Socialism long enough without explaining your utopia. Let's hear your stupid ideas about your longed for perfect world.

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Reply #33 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 7:25am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 2:28am:

I worked in South Carolina and Mississippi a few years back and the general level of understanding of the world shocked me.

One guy - who wouldn't strike you as a rocket scientist but he was no utter m-ron - he didn't know where Great Britain was.
I mean I get not knowing intricacies of countries etc but how can you actually reach the age of about 25 and not know where the UK is on the map.

My favourite from that time was talking to a girl whose father was in the US army and had been stationed outside the US for a period of time.
She said it was somewhere beginning with S. I must have spent 10 mins at best listing every country I know with S - Surinam, Sweden, Somalia, Switzerland - I even listed Syria....

Later on her sister came through and told me he was stationed in Cyprus...

That's not a fair representation of Americans, their own peers know they are airheads. We have one group that you can't talk to unless the subjects are music or sports. These groups are not truly stupid, they can bore you to tears talking about their favorite celebrities for hours.

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Reply #34 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 8:58am

AiA wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 3:15am:

I have been back living and working in the USA for a few years now, in Atlanta actually. Like you say Andrei, Americans are incredibly nice, sometimes annoyingly so, but their worldview can be infuriating, and their tendency towards polar opposites regarding the simplest matters is puzzling.

Depends on where you go in America, whom you meet and what circles you hang out in.

The general education level is lacking because teachers' unions control public education, and that makes it difficult to get rid of inept teachers. In New York they have what are called "rubber rooms" for teachers who have no business being in the classrooms, but remain on the payroll because of the power of the unions.
http://nypost.com/2016/01/17/city-pays-exiled-teachers-to-snooze-as-rubber-rooms...

The documentary "Waiting for Superman" covers the problem quite nicely.

It doesn't help that the federal government has its own bloated bureaucracy, the U.S. Department of Education, which is essentially accountable to no one. Thus, it doesn't really matter that test scores haven't improved since it was created in 1979 (by Jimmy Carter, not surprisingly) -- the bottom line is that Congress has no intention of abolishing it.

This is one of those federal agencies that could disappear tomorrow and the vast majority of Americans would never know the difference.

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Reply #35 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 9:01am

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 6:40am:

Marla wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 4:57am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 3:58am:

Why is Marna so angry. I thought she was a proud American.

A socialist American.

Ok, you have rambled on about your love of Socialism long enough without explaining your utopia. Let's hear your stupid ideas about your longed for perfect world.

Good point, Mort. In the words of the Beatles:

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Well, you know
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Reply #36 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 9:52am

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 6:40am:

Ok, you have rambled on about your love of Socialism long enough without explaining your utopia. Let's hear your stupid ideas about your longed for perfect world.

morty torty, where and when did I ever state that socialism was a "utopia?"

I warned you about your incessant Fox News watching.

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Reply #37 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 9:58am

Marla wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 9:52am:

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 6:40am:

Ok, you have rambled on about your love of Socialism long enough without explaining your utopia. Let's hear your stupid ideas about your longed for perfect world.

morty torty, where and when did I ever state that socialism was a "utopia?"

I warned you about your incessant Fox News watching.

So what about the second part of his challenge: Explain how your version of socialism is going to create a better world.

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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 15036 Colorado Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #39 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 10:26am First make your case how Texuuns can live on so little brain cells.
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Mortdooley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7315 Texas Gulf Coast Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #40 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 10:45am So you can't, no surprise there! Just as I said before, good attention, bad attention any attention just so you are not ignored. You are such an Attention Junkie.
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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 15036 Colorado Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #41 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 10:47am No, I'm just not your puppet morty torty.
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Mortdooley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7315 Texas Gulf Coast Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #43 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 11:04am Marla wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 10:47am: No, I'm just not your puppet morty torty. So, you are a phony socialist.
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #44 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 11:18am The land of the free. Free to get shot wile doing your grocery shopping. Free to go home and die of an easily curable medical condiition because you have no health insurance.
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ian wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 11:18am:

The land of the free. Free to get shot wile doing your grocery shopping. Free to go home and die of an easily curable medical condiition because you have no health insurance.

Why would you get shot?

We have charity hospitals, no one dies for lack of medical care! The Illegals use our emergency rooms as clinics because they won't be turned away. They have bankrupted dozens!

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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11939 Gender:	Re: Happy Independence Day America!!! Reply #46 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 12:45pm All this why? Because I simply wanted to wish America a Happy Birthday?! While we're still subjects of the Crown, at least they had the balls to tell the King where he could shove his crown back then!!! Will that ever happen here? Don't hold your breath.........
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Reply #48 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 4:26pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 11:29am:

ian wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 11:18am:

The land of the free. Free to get shot wile doing your grocery shopping. Free to go home and die of an easily curable medical condiition because you have no health insurance.

Why would you get shot?

We have charity hospitals, no one dies for lack of medical care! The Illegals use our emergency rooms as clinics because they won't be turned away. They have bankrupted dozens!

Exactly, Mort. When the left was trying to sell Obamacare, I kept hearing all these horror stories about people dying in the streets for lack of medical insurance.

And I made the same point: How is that possible, when any illegal immigrant can step across the border, stroll into an American E.R. and get medical treatment regardless of his ability to pay? And forget emergencies -- some Mexican women were using American hospitals for prenatal care, for crying out loud.

To anyone who kept arguing in the face of such overwhelming evidence, I simply posed this challenge: Give me the names of these supposed victims who died for lack of medical insurance.

Unsurprisingly, I never even got one.

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Reply #49 - Jul 6^th, 2016 at 4:31pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 11:04am:

Marla wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 10:47am:

No, I'm just not your puppet morty torty.

So, you are a phony socialist.

Well, I must say I'm disappointed. I mean, I was all ready to go all-in on socialism; I just needed to hear a few details about the plan that was going to work so much better for Americans than capitalism.

And now this. If I didn't know better, I'd say there was no plan. But of course there has to be, or Marla wouldn't embrace it ... ummm, right?

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