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Reply #60 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:00pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:07pm:

And in the land of irony, how much imagination would it take to think of a scenario (with the UK outside the EU) where France allows refugees (deemed unlawful) to exit the EU from Calais to the closest non-EU nation (i.e. the UK)...

I can't imagine a British leader who would be stupid enough not to block their path and turn them back.

I'm certain they'd turn them back (or at least have a mind to)... But the sheer numbers would, I'd bet, quickly overwhelm British authorities while possibly easing the problem in France / EU...

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Reply #61 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:08pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

Well, if I understand correctly, Pakistani Muslims have been coming there for quite a while, but they're not exactly helping their own cause with stuff like the Rotherham scandal (of course, the UK media uses the prim PC term "Asians").

Asians being South Asians (subcontinentals that include Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans) as opposed to South East Asians.

The price of Empire (until the 80s) was that Britain got to keep the queen's subjects, only they had to squeeze them from four continents into an island.

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Reply #62 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:27pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:00pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:07pm:

And in the land of irony, how much imagination would it take to think of a scenario (with the UK outside the EU) where France allows refugees (deemed unlawful) to exit the EU from Calais to the closest non-EU nation (i.e. the UK)...

I can't imagine a British leader who would be stupid enough not to block their path and turn them back.

I'm certain they'd turn them back (or at least have a mind to)... But the sheer numbers would, I'd bet, quickly overwhelm British authorities while possibly easing the problem in France / EU...

They do turn them back. French and British forces search every vehicle for refugees on both sides of the British Channel.

Nothing will change for refugees when.Britain pulls out of the EU. Those most effected will be the British themselves.

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Reply #63 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:27pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:00pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:07pm:

And in the land of irony, how much imagination would it take to think of a scenario (with the UK outside the EU) where France allows refugees (deemed unlawful) to exit the EU from Calais to the closest non-EU nation (i.e. the UK)...

I can't imagine a British leader who would be stupid enough not to block their path and turn them back.

I'm certain they'd turn them back (or at least have a mind to)... But the sheer numbers would, I'd bet, quickly overwhelm British authorities while possibly easing the problem in France / EU...

They do turn them back. French and British forces search every vehicle for refugees on both sides of the British Channel.

Nothing will change for refugees when.Britain pulls out of the EU. Those most effected will be the British themselves.

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Reply #64 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:38pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:27pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:00pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:07pm:

And in the land of irony, how much imagination would it take to think of a scenario (with the UK outside the EU) where France allows refugees (deemed unlawful) to exit the EU from Calais to the closest non-EU nation (i.e. the UK)...

I can't imagine a British leader who would be stupid enough not to block their path and turn them back.

I'm certain they'd turn them back (or at least have a mind to)... But the sheer numbers would, I'd bet, quickly overwhelm British authorities while possibly easing the problem in France / EU...

They do turn them back. French and British forces search every vehicle for refugees on both sides of the British Channel.

Nothing will change for refugees when.Britain pulls out of the EU. Those most effected will be the British themselves.

Yeah but it will stop the Bulgarians, Croatians, Czechs, Estonians, Hungarians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles, Romanians, Slovaks and Slovenians from washing over.

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Reply #65 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:49pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:27pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:00pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:07pm:

And in the land of irony, how much imagination would it take to think of a scenario (with the UK outside the EU) where France allows refugees (deemed unlawful) to exit the EU from Calais to the closest non-EU nation (i.e. the UK)...

I can't imagine a British leader who would be stupid enough not to block their path and turn them back.

I'm certain they'd turn them back (or at least have a mind to)... But the sheer numbers would, I'd bet, quickly overwhelm British authorities while possibly easing the problem in France / EU...

They do turn them back. French and British forces search every vehicle for refugees on both sides of the British Channel.

Nothing will change for refugees when.Britain pulls out of the EU. Those most effected will be the British themselves.

Yeah but it will stop the Bulgarians, Croatians, Czechs, Estonians, Hungarians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles, Romanians, Slovaks and Slovenians from washing over.

That it will, Secret. That’s the only honest point made by the Leavers during the campaign.

But I’m.curious. Many own homes and have families in Britain. Do you think they’ll be sent back?

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Reply #66 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:55pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:49pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:27pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:00pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:07pm:

And in the land of irony, how much imagination would it take to think of a scenario (with the UK outside the EU) where France allows refugees (deemed unlawful) to exit the EU from Calais to the closest non-EU nation (i.e. the UK)...

I can't imagine a British leader who would be stupid enough not to block their path and turn them back.

I'm certain they'd turn them back (or at least have a mind to)... But the sheer numbers would, I'd bet, quickly overwhelm British authorities while possibly easing the problem in France / EU...

They do turn them back. French and British forces search every vehicle for refugees on both sides of the British Channel.

Nothing will change for refugees when.Britain pulls out of the EU. Those most effected will be the British themselves.

Yeah but it will stop the Bulgarians, Croatians, Czechs, Estonians, Hungarians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles, Romanians, Slovaks and Slovenians from washing over.

That it will, Secret. That’s the only honest point made by the Leavers during the campaign.

But I’m.curious. Many own homes and have families in Britain. Do you think they’ll be sent back?

Nope. History so far in the west is once the buggerers have landed there is no getting rid of them.

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Reply #67 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 7:11pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:27pm:

They do turn them back. French and British forces search every vehicle for refugees on both sides of the British Channel.

Yes the French do turn them back now, as they are also turning them back from an EU member (namely Britain).

Do you think the French will be so enthusiastic about turning them back when Britain is no longer an EU member and exit from France to Britain also means exit from the EU.

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Reply #68 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:46pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:49pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:27pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:00pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:07pm:

And in the land of irony, how much imagination would it take to think of a scenario (with the UK outside the EU) where France allows refugees (deemed unlawful) to exit the EU from Calais to the closest non-EU nation (i.e. the UK)...

I can't imagine a British leader who would be stupid enough not to block their path and turn them back.

I'm certain they'd turn them back (or at least have a mind to)... But the sheer numbers would, I'd bet, quickly overwhelm British authorities while possibly easing the problem in France / EU...

They do turn them back. French and British forces search every vehicle for refugees on both sides of the British Channel.

Nothing will change for refugees when.Britain pulls out of the EU. Those most effected will be the British themselves.

Yeah but it will stop the Bulgarians, Croatians, Czechs, Estonians, Hungarians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles, Romanians, Slovaks and Slovenians from washing over.

That it will, Secret. That’s the only honest point made by the Leavers during the campaign.

But I’m.curious. Many own homes and have families in Britain. Do you think they’ll be sent back?

Nope. History so far in the west is once the buggerers have landed there is no getting rid of them.

You’re right there, Secret. London has been the destination for European emigres from the French Revolution on. England has never gotten rid of them.

How many have migrated to Poland, Estonia, Romania?

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Reply #69 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:51pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 7:11pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:27pm:

They do turn them back. French and British forces search every vehicle for refugees on both sides of the British Channel.

Yes the French do turn them back now, as they are also turning them back from an EU member (namely Britain).

Do you think the French will be so enthusiastic about turning them back when Britain is no longer an EU member and exit from France to Britain also means exit from the EU.

I’m not sure why they would do this now, North. Britain is not a signatory to the Schengen travel zone. This is the reason the Channel is so tightly guarded . No other border within the EU is.

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Reply #70 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 10:05pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:51pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 7:11pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:27pm:

They do turn them back. French and British forces search every vehicle for refugees on both sides of the British Channel.

Yes the French do turn them back now, as they are also turning them back from an EU member (namely Britain).

Do you think the French will be so enthusiastic about turning them back when Britain is no longer an EU member and exit from France to Britain also means exit from the EU.

I’m not sure why they would do this now, North. Britain is not a signatory to the Schengen travel zone. This is the reason the Channel is so tightly guarded . No other border within the EU is.

No, I don't think the French would do that now (and definitely not while the UK is a member of the EU which won't change for some time yet). But I'm imagining a time after the UK's exit.

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Reply #71 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:29am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

Asians being South Asians (subcontinentals that include Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans) as opposed to South East Asians.

The price of Empire (until the 80s) was that Britain got to keep the queen's subjects, only they had to squeeze them from four continents into an island.

Bad idea, considering there are now something like 85 sharia courts in the UK.

Some assimilation, huh? Sounds like the British government has being doing most of the assimilating.

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Reply #72 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:37am

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:29am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

Asians being South Asians (subcontinentals that include Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans) as opposed to South East Asians.

The price of Empire (until the 80s) was that Britain got to keep the queen's subjects, only they had to squeeze them from four continents into an island.

Bad idea, considering there are now something like 85 sharia courts in the UK.

Some assimilation, huh? Sounds like the British government has being doing most of the assimilating.

Soveregnty, innit.

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Reply #73 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:45am

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:37am:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:29am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

Asians being South Asians (subcontinentals that include Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans) as opposed to South East Asians.

The price of Empire (until the 80s) was that Britain got to keep the queen's subjects, only they had to squeeze them from four continents into an island.

Bad idea, considering there are now something like 85 sharia courts in the UK.

Some assimilation, huh? Sounds like the British government has being doing most of the assimilating.

Soveregnty, innit.

No it isn't actually.

The term is sovereignty.

If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

HYPATIA - Greek philosopher, mathematician and astronomer (370 - 415)

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Reply #74 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 10:15am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:37am:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:29am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

Asians being South Asians (subcontinentals that include Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans) as opposed to South East Asians.

The price of Empire (until the 80s) was that Britain got to keep the queen's subjects, only they had to squeeze them from four continents into an island.

Bad idea, considering there are now something like 85 sharia courts in the UK.

Some assimilation, huh? Sounds like the British government has being doing most of the assimilating.

Soveregnty, innit.

No it isn't actually.

The term is sovereignty.

Good point, dear.

Carry on.

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