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Squire

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Re: The Swiss show the way to go
Reply #45 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 3:23pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 1:59pm:

As usual Herb, you can be relied on to put your finger on the solution.
Way to go.

Here in Sydney, Muslim youths told pollsters that their greatest fear is deportation for committing crime.

It's the one thing that gets their attention. Jail holds absolute no terrors for them because a score of 'brothers' is always waiting to take them under their wing.

Those born here can't be deported. They are about 5000% more Australian than Herbert and its ilk.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The Swiss show the way to go Reply #46 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 3:30pm So you would maintain that they all accept Australian cultural values? That a lot of them don't hanker after sharia law? That they believe in equality of women? That there is not a lot of support for the ideals of ISIS?
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Re: The Swiss show the way to go
Reply #47 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 3:35pm

Squire wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 3:23pm:

Those born here can't be deported. They are about 5000% more Australian than Herbert and its ilk.

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"But this one is different. If you are a dual citizen or a foreign national, you really should care. This law doesn't create new crimes you're not planning to commit; it takes away something you probably care about - your identity as an Australian - automatically and in circumstances which will surprise you.

The Bureau of Statistics says that 27.7 per cent of the current Australian population (6.4 million people) was born overseas. Add to that number those who were born here but hold dual citizenship - there are no current stats on this but in 2000 it was estimated at 4-5 million. Those two figures overlap, so conservatively perhaps a third of us are either foreign citizens or foreign nationals. Keep reading".

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41869 Gender:	Re: The Swiss show the way to go Reply #48 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 3:46pm Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 6:25pm: Deportation is the answer. The law-breaker and her entire extended family. Fines and jail-time does nothing to remove these dysfunctional religious maniacs from Western countries. X 3
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Re: The Swiss show the way to go
Reply #49 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 3:48pm

Frank wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 6:33pm:

Squire wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 12:15am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 5^th, 2016 at 7:12am:

Switzerland has adopted a position on citizenship that requires applicants to demonstrate a high degree of integration into its society. They must not only have the language skills but also an acceptance e & understanding of Swiss culture.

In a recent case, citizenship was denied for 2 Muslim girls who would not take part in co-ed swimming classes, part of a compulsory curriculum.
Non-participation on religious grounds was regarded as evidence of insufficient integration.

They are taking a hard line on such issues.

Denial of citizenship on such flimsy grounds is a breach of EU human rights law. I bet no other ethnic group with customs divergent to those of Switzerland were denied citizenship.

No other culture insists on gender segregation in Switzerland - which is not an EU member state so the EU human rights laws do not apply anyway.

So, Sweden is the master of their own destiny.
As is england now.

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Re: The Swiss show the way to go
Reply #50 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:59am

Squire wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 3:23pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 1:59pm:

As usual Herb, you can be relied on to put your finger on the solution.
Way to go.

Here in Sydney, Muslim youths told pollsters that their greatest fear is deportation for committing crime.

It's the one thing that gets their attention. Jail holds absolute no terrors for them because a score of 'brothers' is always waiting to take them under their wing.

Those born here can't be deported. They are about 5000% more Australian than Herbert and its ilk.

You seem to be cheering for the Muslims to have their way in Australian society.

Are you saying that you'd prefer living in a culture where women are subjected to honor killings and FGM, where gays can face execution, and where religions other than Islam have no right to exist?

Look around -- that's how it can be in majority-Muslim countries. So why would you stick up for that kind of 7th-century culture instead of joining the rest of us in saying that Western values and freedoms must prevail, even if that means deporting people who seek to undermine them?

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