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Re: The Swiss show the way to go
Reply #30 - Jul 6th, 2016 at 8:05pm
 
Are you challenging my veracity Greg?
Didn't I give the source as WND or was it Breitbart.
Two reliable sources. None of this stuff gets into mainstream media which are all staffed and edited by the products of leftwing journalism schools.

This is not by any means the first instance of the tough Swiss attitude to Muslim intrusions. I have reported one or two in the past.
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Reply #31 - Jul 6th, 2016 at 8:07pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
Are you challenging my veracity Greg?


No.

You're just the messenger.

I have my doubts about the message, though.

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Re: The Swiss show the way to go
Reply #32 - Jul 6th, 2016 at 8:25pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 8:07pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
Are you challenging my veracity Greg?


No.

You're just the messenger.

I have my doubts about the message, though.




Because in WA they routinely release names, schools etc. /sarc
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Re: The Swiss show the way to go
Reply #33 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 1:09pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
Is English your first language?

Are you capable of reading an entire post without getting hopelessly distracted by your own puerile obsession with one-upmanship?

Apparently not, as we shall see.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
I did at least 15 minutes of googling.

Result: no names of the girls, and no name of the school.

So ... what ESL course did you graduate from?

Let's go over what I originally said, this time using simple English words that perhaps even you can understand:
The4thEstate wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 5:49pm:
If you're questioning whether the story is legitimate, five seconds of Googling would have provided your answer:

Note that I never said five seconds of Googling, or even 15, would provide the names of the girls or the school. I said it would answer the question of whether or not the story was legitimate.

You keep insisting that you "smell a rat," but y'know what? When it comes to credibility, if it's a choice between your sense of smell versus the New York Times, Time magazine, USA Today et al., I'm afraid you and your nose come in a distant second.


greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
That doesn't say why their names were not disclosed.

All it says is, their names were not disclosed.

Well of course my links don't say why their names were not disclosed. I never promised that they would.

Here's what I actually said:
The4thEstate wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 5:49pm:
You could also have found out why the girls' names were not readily available.

And the reason the girls' names were not readily available from any online media source is because -- wait for it! -- their names were never disclosed to the media in the first place. 


greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
If you know why their names were not disclosed, please share it with us all.

I covered that one, too. Get your yellow notepad and No. 2 pencil ready, because here comes my answer for the second time:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 5:49pm:
Leaving out the names is standard media practice when reporting on controversial and sensitive stories involving minor children.

And here's an unadvertised bonus: The same rule applies to using geographic information pertaining to children. As the Online News Association puts it:
"If it doesn’t compromise the story, consider leaving out the name of a young person’s school, where he works or the specific suburb where he lives." --
http://ethics.journalists.org/topics/children-coverage-images-and-interviews/

Class dismissed!
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Re: The Swiss show the way to go
Reply #34 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 1:11pm
 
The4thEstate wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
Is English your first language?

Are you capable of reading an entire post without getting hopelessly distracted by your own puerile obsession with one-upmanship?

Apparently not, as we shall see.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
I did at least 15 minutes of googling.

Result: no names of the girls, and no name of the school.

So ... what ESL course did you graduate from?

Let's go over what I originally said, this time using simple English words that perhaps even you can understand:
The4thEstate wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 5:49pm:
If you're questioning whether the story is legitimate, five seconds of Googling would have provided your answer:

Note that I never said five seconds of Googling, or even 15, would provide the names of the girls or the school. I said it would answer the question of whether or not the story was legitimate.

You keep insisting that you "smell a rat," but y'know what? When it comes to credibility, if it's a choice between your sense of smell versus the New York Times, Time magazine, USA Today et al., I'm afraid you and your nose come in a distant second.


greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
That doesn't say why their names were not disclosed.

All it says is, their names were not disclosed.

Well of course my links don't say why their names were not disclosed. I never promised that they would.

Here's what I actually said:
The4thEstate wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 5:49pm:
You could also have found out why the girls' names were not readily available.

And the reason the girls' names were not readily available from any online media source is because -- wait for it! -- their names were never disclosed to the media in the first place. 


greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
If you know why their names were not disclosed, please share it with us all.

I covered that one, too. Get your yellow notepad and No. 2 pencil ready, because here comes my answer for the second time:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 5:49pm:
Leaving out the names is standard media practice when reporting on controversial and sensitive stories involving minor children.

And here's an unadvertised bonus: The same rule applies to using geographic information pertaining to children. As the Online News Association puts it:
"If it doesn’t compromise the story, consider leaving out the name of a young person’s school, where he works or the specific suburb where he lives." --
http://ethics.journalists.org/topics/children-coverage-images-and-interviews/

Class dismissed!


None of which proves that the story is legitimate.

No names, no details.

I smell a rat.

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Re: The Swiss show the way to go
Reply #35 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 4:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 1:11pm:
None of which proves that the story is legitimate.

No names, no details.

I smell a rat.


Smell what you like. The bottom line is, who besides you thinks your demands for personal information about the girls are even reasonable?

That's not how the media works with regard to sensitive stories about minor children. But of course, you wouldn't know that, having no more inside knowledge of journalism than a drunk in the bleachers has about football.

So feel free to complain to the New York Times, Time magazine or USA Today, and be sure to let us know how seriously they take your request.
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Reply #36 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 5:36pm
 
Lefties enabling and supporting and encouraging Muslims to continue their faith is basically munchausens syndrome by proxy
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Re: The Swiss show the way to go
Reply #37 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 5:58pm
 
The4thEstate wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 4:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 1:11pm:
None of which proves that the story is legitimate.

No names, no details.

I smell a rat.


Smell what you like. The bottom line is, who besides you thinks your demands for personal information about the girls are even reasonable? 


I've made no demands.

You're becoming hysterical.

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Reply #38 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 6:33pm
 
Squire wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 12:15am:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 5th, 2016 at 7:12am:
Switzerland has adopted a position on citizenship that requires applicants to demonstrate a high degree of integration into its society. They must not only have the language skills but also an acceptance e & understanding of Swiss culture.

In a recent case, citizenship was denied for 2 Muslim girls who would not take part in co-ed swimming classes, part of a compulsory curriculum.
Non-participation on religious grounds was regarded as evidence of insufficient integration.

They are taking a hard line on such issues.


Denial of citizenship on such flimsy grounds is a breach of EU human rights law. I bet no other ethnic group with customs divergent to those of Switzerland were denied citizenship.



No other culture insists on gender segregation in Switzerland - which is not an EU member state so the EU human rights laws do not apply anyway.

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Reply #39 - Jul 8th, 2016 at 1:24am
 
Squire wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 12:15am:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 5th, 2016 at 7:12am:
Switzerland has adopted a position on citizenship that requires applicants to demonstrate a high degree of integration into its society. They must not only have the language skills but also an acceptance e & understanding of Swiss culture.

In a recent case, citizenship was denied for 2 Muslim girls who would not take part in co-ed swimming classes, part of a compulsory curriculum.
Non-participation on religious grounds was regarded as evidence of insufficient integration.

They are taking a hard line on such issues.


Denial of citizenship on such flimsy grounds is a breach of EU human rights law. I bet no other ethnic group with customs divergent to those of Switzerland were denied citizenship.



Luckily for Switzerland then that it's not in the EU.
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Reply #40 - Jul 8th, 2016 at 5:43pm
 
The Swiss canton of Ticino has imposed its first two fines for violation of the burka ban that came into force on July 1.
Way to go.

The Saudi embassy has issued a warning to its citizens travelling in the area, urging them to obey the.law.
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Reply #41 - Jul 8th, 2016 at 6:25pm
 
Deportation is the answer. The law-breaker and her entire extended family.

Fines and jail-time does nothing to remove these dysfunctional religious maniacs from Western countries.
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Reply #42 - Jul 9th, 2016 at 1:59pm
 
As usual Herb, you can be relied on to put your finger on the solution.
Way to go.
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Reply #43 - Jul 9th, 2016 at 2:31pm
 
GordyL wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 5:36pm:
Lefties enabling and supporting and encouraging Muslims to continue their faith is basically munchausens syndrome by proxy



Well, here's a twist on that theme : While being described as 'animals' by the German judge, Muslim sex attackers have nevertheless gone skipping merrily away from the court in a mood of happy jubilation upon learning that Western justice is sensitive to multicultural diversity.


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Reply #44 - Jul 9th, 2016 at 3:02pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 9th, 2016 at 1:59pm:
As usual Herb, you can be relied on to put your finger on the solution.
Way to go.


Here in Sydney, Muslim youths told pollsters that their greatest fear is deportation for committing crime.

It's the one thing that gets their attention. Jail holds absolute no terrors for them because a score of 'brothers' is always waiting to take them under their wing.


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