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Reply #60 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:15am

Kat wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:55am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:30am:

Kat wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:13am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:06am:

Kat wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:00am:

The way I see it, it can only be good for the UK, certainly in the medium to long term.

It has voted to take back its sovereignty from the corrupt and parasitic money-men behind
the EU's overtly ultra-neo-con agenda and who are profiteering from the economic rape of
countries such as Spain and Greece while unfairly advantaging other, richer countries.

Yes how dare they tell spain and greece to pay their own way and live within their means instead of expecting everyone else to fund the lazy bastard lifestyle they have grown accustom to.

Bastards!

It is the socialist ideal to have someone else pay while doing nothing for yourself, so I can see why the wogs are not happy with their situation.

Nothing remotely socialist about it.

The Pommy Left were actually in favour of remaining with the EU.

For ALL the wrong reasons, it's true, but still...

Oh, and it was the UK who voted to leave, not Spain or Greece (yet!).

My comment was about the bulllsh1t statement of the economic rape of spain and greece; those two countries brought everything upon themselves based on their own freeloader attitude. Nothing to do with the rest of the EU.

Personally it was the EUs fault for letting them in,

they should never been allowed in

, based on their socialist attitude to taxes and living within their means.

I can assure you a German working and paying taxes is none too impress they he is paying for a greek to retire early demanding a bailout instead of paying their own way.

Then they should leave too.

They can only be better-off for it.

That statement is the country equivalent of telling a long term dole bludger to get a job, it seems like the right way to go, but we all know it is never going to happen.

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Re: Britain is out of the EU !
Reply #61 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:15am

Its time wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

It's good to see we have all the rtards on here backing the withdrawal from EU, at least we know we have them onboard for a republic now

Maybe you should back-track a bit and read my comments.

Leaving, if played correctly, IS a good thing, for all the reasons I've already stated.

And there are almost certainly more.

The UK Left did support staying in the EU, but for all the wrong reasons.

The Australian Left should not make the same mistake.

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Re: Britain is out of the EU !
Reply #62 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:16am

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

Kat wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:55am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:30am:

Kat wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:13am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:06am:

Kat wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:00am:

The way I see it, it can only be good for the UK, certainly in the medium to long term.

It has voted to take back its sovereignty from the corrupt and parasitic money-men behind
the EU's overtly ultra-neo-con agenda and who are profiteering from the economic rape of
countries such as Spain and Greece while unfairly advantaging other, richer countries.

Yes how dare they tell spain and greece to pay their own way and live within their means instead of expecting everyone else to fund the lazy bastard lifestyle they have grown accustom to.

Bastards!

It is the socialist ideal to have someone else pay while doing nothing for yourself, so I can see why the wogs are not happy with their situation.

Nothing remotely socialist about it.

The Pommy Left were actually in favour of remaining with the EU.

For ALL the wrong reasons, it's true, but still...

Oh, and it was the UK who voted to leave, not Spain or Greece (yet!).

My comment was about the bulllsh1t statement of the economic rape of spain and greece; those two countries brought everything upon themselves based on their own freeloader attitude. Nothing to do with the rest of the EU.

Personally it was the EUs fault for letting them in,

they should never been allowed in

, based on their socialist attitude to taxes and living within their means.

I can assure you a German working and paying taxes is none too impress they he is paying for a greek to retire early demanding a bailout instead of paying their own way.

Then they should leave too.

They can only be better-off for it.

That statement is the country equivalent of telling a long term dole bludger to get a job, it seems like the right way to go, but we all know it is never going to happen.

Now you're just being silly.

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Reply #63 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:27am

miketrees wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

Its been so interesting to see the strange bedfellows this referendum has produced.

One aspect I found a bit unhealthy was the bleating of some of the young trendy voters complaining that old people got to vote, when they wont have to live with the consequences.

They should be reminded that it was the fault of the oldies that they no longer live in a unified Europe.

Which is nonsense of course - older people have experience and wisdom that the young lack. It is also presumptuous to assume that older people are only voting for themselves. Not everyone does. Ask anyone with grandkids.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: Britain is out of the EU ! Reply #64 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:39am Have I misread/ misheard but wasn't it the average old style labour voter that led the exit vote?
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41865 Gender:	Re: Britain is out of the EU ! Reply #65 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:45am miketrees wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:39am: Have I misread/ misheard but wasn't it the average old style labour voter that led the exit vote? I don't know. I saw a map that showed rural area moreso voted to leave, cities more voted to stay.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Britain is out of the EU ! Reply #66 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:54am It's not out of the EU yet and it will take 2 years for the process to complete apparently... and I don't think less than 4% is a large margin to win by.
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Reply #67 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 12:02pm

Bam wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 9:25am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

Bam wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 10:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:44pm:

Cameron is a Progressive Conservative twat...

FIFY

Nope he's a moderate a progressive in a Conservative Party... just like Malcolm... they are best buddies didn't you know.
Just ask him, he will tell you he is a Progressive Conservative. Roll Eyes

next time don't correct me unless you know what you are talking about Bam. Wink

Of course I know what I'm talking about. Capitalised "Progressive" is the name of a defunct political party in the UK. Uncapitalised "progressive" would be closer to what you intended. Try not capitalising "Progressive" when you do not intend it to be a proper noun, mmkay?

Capital letters: the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and your uncle jack off a horse.

Wassup.... having a problem admitting the truth... Grin

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Don't waste my time then eh.

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Reply #68 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 12:05pm

Kat wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

Its time wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

It's good to see we have all the rtards on here backing the withdrawal from EU, at least we know we have them onboard for a republic now

Maybe you should back-track a bit and read my comments.

Leaving, if played correctly, IS a good thing, for all the reasons I've already stated.

And there are almost certainly more.

The UK Left did support staying in the EU, but for all the wrong reasons.

The Australian Left should not make the same mistake.

nice list kat except for one thing... you are looking at it through your a r s e and blaming the wrong ideology.

It is the conservative base that has brough about this change... not the progs who'd love a world government, which the EU is by default.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: Britain is out of the EU ! Reply #69 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 12:11pm It is the conservative base that has brough about this change... not the progs who'd love a world government, which the EU is by default. I think it was a win for ordinary people over Yuppies. Nothing to do with left/right
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Reply #70 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 12:14pm

The Empire is crumbling as I suspected....The UK is now the divided dynasty that will fracture and fail without any support from the rest of Europe....If the Poms think the EU will reward them for abandoning the union they will be sadly mistaken....The EU will play hard ball and make it as difficult as possible as a warning to other nations who want to go it alone....Scotland are already talking about another referendum to leave the UK which has a very good chance of getting up....Australia should close it's borders to all British economic migrants who will be leaving the failed empire in droves when their economy flounders!!!

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36621030

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Scotland's first minister has said a second independence referendum is "highly likely" after the UK voted to leave the EU.

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Reply #71 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 12:21pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

The EU will play hard ball and make it as difficult as possible as a warning to other nations who want to go it alone....

So you're OK with punitive measures being taken against democratically determined decisions regarding national sovereignty and identity?

From this, we can surmise that if/when Australia becomes a republic (a move that you have advocated) that you'll be quite happy for England to punish the hell out of us for doing so.

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Britain is out of the EU ! Reply #72 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 12:29pm miketrees wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:39am: Have I misread/ misheard but wasn't it the average old style labour voter that led the exit vote? It's probably too early to know for sure, but the impression I got was the regional cities that were Labour heartland had a significantly weaker "Remain" vote than expected.
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Re: Britain is out of the EU !
Reply #73 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 12:33pm

... wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 12:21pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

The EU will play hard ball and make it as difficult as possible as a warning to other nations who want to go it alone....

So you're OK with punitive measures being taken against democratically determined decisions regarding national sovereignty and identity?

From this, we can surmise that if/when Australia becomes a republic (a move that you have advocated) that you'll be quite happy for England to punish the hell out of us for doing so.

Just calling it the way I see it....Do you think the EU will make it easy for Britain to leave the union with the same benefits the union offered....Britain will now have to negotiate with the EU who will not reward them for going it alone....Or do you think the EU will help the UK be better off and prompt other nations to look at abandoning the Union as well....Self interest is a reality and is the very reason the UK decided to go alone....I say give the UK what they want and let them go it alone to see how they go???

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Reply #74 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 12:39pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 12:05pm:

Kat wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

Its time wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

It's good to see we have all the rtards on here backing the withdrawal from EU, at least we know we have them onboard for a republic now

Maybe you should back-track a bit and read my comments.

Leaving, if played correctly, IS a good thing, for all the reasons I've already stated.

And there are almost certainly more.

The UK Left did support staying in the EU, but for all the wrong reasons.

The Australian Left should not make the same mistake.

nice list kat except for one thing... you are looking at it through your a r s e and blaming the wrong ideology.

It is the conservative base that has brough about this change... not the progs who'd love a world government, which the EU is by default.

Did you miss this bit...?

...The UK Left did support staying in the EU...

I don't happen to agree with them.

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