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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Brexit - the demographic issue Reply #300 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:07pm When you fall into quicksand, Brian, the best thing to do is not struggle. Remain calm, and hope that some Good Samaritan comes along and pulls you out.
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Re: Brexit - the demographic issue
Reply #302 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:02pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 8:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

Does someone stand in the polling boot and make you put a mark on the Ballot Paper? YES/NO

Does someone make you accept a ballot paper when your name is marked off the Electoral Roll, upon entry to the Polling Station? YES/NO

So, Belgarion, how do they make it compulsory for you to vote? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

Oh Brian, you should have accepted defeat with dignity, but like the progressive bigots you so admire, you cannot admit when you have it wrong. In fact one is required to accept a ballot paper when entering the polling place and one must place it in the box. And while there is no one in the booth to actually watch you mark the paper the law is still applicable, if not practically enforceable. You are very keen on quoting the law when it suits your purposes, so why not now?

Because to quote someone or other, "the law is an Ass!"

Belgarion, this law is not applicable. As I have pointed out, no forces you to accept a ballot paper, no stands beside you when you mark the ballot paper. Therefore, voting is NOT compulsory.

When they change that, it will become compulsory.

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Not only have you got this wrong, you have called Herbie a liar. I think an apology may be in order.

Nope. I did not call him a liar. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

Needless to say, it is not compulsory to vote. All that is required is for potential voters to have their names marked off the electoral rolls, nothing more.

No matter how you paint it, Herbert, it is a lie to claim otherwise. And we all know you're not a liar, now are you, Herbie? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

And in your little world if no one is checking your speed then speed limits are only advisory. If a shop doesn't have a security system in place then paying for goods isn't nessacery either. And until the government puts cameras in your house then beating your wife is fair game as well.

The life of Brian: You only have to follow the law if there someone looking over your shoulder...

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Reply #303 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:20pm

Quantum wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:02pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 8:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

Does someone stand in the polling boot and make you put a mark on the Ballot Paper? YES/NO

Does someone make you accept a ballot paper when your name is marked off the Electoral Roll, upon entry to the Polling Station? YES/NO

So, Belgarion, how do they make it compulsory for you to vote? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

Oh Brian, you should have accepted defeat with dignity, but like the progressive bigots you so admire, you cannot admit when you have it wrong. In fact one is required to accept a ballot paper when entering the polling place and one must place it in the box. And while there is no one in the booth to actually watch you mark the paper the law is still applicable, if not practically enforceable. You are very keen on quoting the law when it suits your purposes, so why not now?

Because to quote someone or other, "the law is an Ass!"

Belgarion, this law is not applicable. As I have pointed out, no forces you to accept a ballot paper, no stands beside you when you mark the ballot paper. Therefore, voting is NOT compulsory.

When they change that, it will become compulsory.

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Not only have you got this wrong, you have called Herbie a liar. I think an apology may be in order.

Nope. I did not call him a liar. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

Needless to say, it is not compulsory to vote. All that is required is for potential voters to have their names marked off the electoral rolls, nothing more.

No matter how you paint it, Herbert, it is a lie to claim otherwise. And we all know you're not a liar, now are you, Herbie? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

And in your little world if no one is checking your speed then speed limits are only advisory. If a shop doesn't have a security system in place then paying for goods isn't nessacery either. And until the government puts cameras in your house then beating your wife is fair game as well.

The life of Brian: You only have to follow the law if there someone looking over your shoulder...

Up to you to decide if the penalties that the Government has decided will occur if you are detected breaking the law, are sufficient to deter you from that act... Roll Eyes

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Reply #304 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:28pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:20pm:

Quantum wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:02pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 8:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

Does someone stand in the polling boot and make you put a mark on the Ballot Paper? YES/NO

Does someone make you accept a ballot paper when your name is marked off the Electoral Roll, upon entry to the Polling Station? YES/NO

So, Belgarion, how do they make it compulsory for you to vote? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

Oh Brian, you should have accepted defeat with dignity, but like the progressive bigots you so admire, you cannot admit when you have it wrong. In fact one is required to accept a ballot paper when entering the polling place and one must place it in the box. And while there is no one in the booth to actually watch you mark the paper the law is still applicable, if not practically enforceable. You are very keen on quoting the law when it suits your purposes, so why not now?

Because to quote someone or other, "the law is an Ass!"

Belgarion, this law is not applicable. As I have pointed out, no forces you to accept a ballot paper, no stands beside you when you mark the ballot paper. Therefore, voting is NOT compulsory.

When they change that, it will become compulsory.

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Not only have you got this wrong, you have called Herbie a liar. I think an apology may be in order.

Nope. I did not call him a liar. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

Needless to say, it is not compulsory to vote. All that is required is for potential voters to have their names marked off the electoral rolls, nothing more.

No matter how you paint it, Herbert, it is a lie to claim otherwise. And we all know you're not a liar, now are you, Herbie? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

And in your little world if no one is checking your speed then speed limits are only advisory. If a shop doesn't have a security system in place then paying for goods isn't nessacery either. And until the government puts cameras in your house then beating your wife is fair game as well.

The life of Brian: You only have to follow the law if there someone looking over your shoulder...

Up to you to decide if the penalties that the Government has decided will occur if you are detected breaking the law, are sufficient to deter you from that act... Roll Eyes

Wow... What an immoral and unethical douchebag you are. You really think it's only cheating if you get caught. No wonder the western world is going to hell in a hand basket with people like you in the population.

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Reply #305 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:31pm

Quantum wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:28pm:

Wow... What an immoral and unethical douchebag you are. You really think it's only cheating if you get caught. No wonder the western world is going to hell in a hand basket with people like you in the population.

No, what I have said is that it is YOUR choice, Quantum, no one else's. You must decide whether the risk of detection is that you are likely to suffer the consequences that the Government has decided should befall you.

No where did I say whether or not "it's only cheating if you get caught." That is YOUR connotation, not mine.

Do you enjoy erecting strawmen? Are you working on your thatching skills? Roll Eyes

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Re: Brexit - the demographic issue
Reply #307 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Quantum wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:28pm:

Wow... What an immoral and unethical douchebag you are. You really think it's only cheating if you get caught. No wonder the western world is going to hell in a hand basket with people like you in the population.

No, what I have said is that it is YOUR choice, Quantum, no one else's. You must decide whether the risk of detection is that you are likely to suffer the consequences that the Government has decided should befall you.

No where did I say whether or not "it's only cheating if you get caught." That is YOUR connotation, not mine.

Do you enjoy erecting strawmen? Are you working on your thatching skills? Roll Eyes

Just keep digging. Unbelievable that you think the law is a choice on whether you get caught or not, and the law only matters if it is enforced.

I don't know what's more amazing. How immoral you are, or how blind you are to your immorality. I wonder how many times you are going to vote next week. I mean, it's only voter fraud if you get caught... Right? Roll Eyes

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Reply #308 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 5:16pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 10:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

Brexit will help our exports to the UK.

We won't be stopped by EU quotas.

We should be rejoicing -

we now have a new market for beef, sheep, wool, dairy products etc.

That could be the way of it... but, then again nearly half voted to remain, so there will be plenty of pressure to continue trade if the English continue their drive towards dismemberment of the UK and exit from the EU.

Even as early as today the Scottish first minister intends to negotiate Scotland's re-entry into the EU in the event of a second referendum for Scottish independence and there's early talk of a border poll in Northern Ireland (although that would be a long shot).

Not sure if England alone would find Australian markets as physically accessible as European ones...

No - it's a great day for us & New Zealand - no more EU quotas to sell into the UK..

We can make windfall profits & recover from our debts.

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Reply #309 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 6:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:20pm:

Up to you to decide if the penalties that the Government has decided will occur if you are detected breaking the law, are sufficient to deter you from that act... Roll Eyes

So having no moral principles about obeying the law is fine by you? It's just what you can get away with - like a burglar takes his chances.

In trying to absolve yourself, you're doing nothing more than sinking yourself further into a fetid mire of your own making.

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Reply #310 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 6:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 5:16pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 10:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

Brexit will help our exports to the UK.

We won't be stopped by EU quotas.

We should be rejoicing -

we now have a new market for beef, sheep, wool, dairy products etc.

That could be the way of it... but, then again nearly half voted to remain, so there will be plenty of pressure to continue trade if the English continue their drive towards dismemberment of the UK and exit from the EU.

Even as early as today the Scottish first minister intends to negotiate Scotland's re-entry into the EU in the event of a second referendum for Scottish independence and there's early talk of a border poll in Northern Ireland (although that would be a long shot).

Not sure if England alone would find Australian markets as physically accessible as European ones...

No - it's a great day for us & New Zealand - no more EU quotas to sell into the UK..

We can make windfall profits & recover from our debts.

Good idea, Bobbie. We'll send them Philippino aged-care nurses, shall we?

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Reply #311 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 6:59pm

Quantum wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Quantum wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:28pm:

Wow... What an immoral and unethical douchebag you are. You really think it's only cheating if you get caught. No wonder the western world is going to hell in a hand basket with people like you in the population.

No, what I have said is that it is YOUR choice, Quantum, no one else's. You must decide whether the risk of detection is that you are likely to suffer the consequences that the Government has decided should befall you.

No where did I say whether or not "it's only cheating if you get caught." That is YOUR connotation, not mine.

Do you enjoy erecting strawmen? Are you working on your thatching skills? Roll Eyes

Just keep digging. Unbelievable that you think the law is a choice on whether you get caught or not, and the law only matters if it is enforced.

Where have I even suggested that. Quantum?

You keep working on your strawman erection. Your thatching skills are improving with every post. Roll Eyes

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Reply #312 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 7:01pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 6:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 4:20pm:

Up to you to decide if the penalties that the Government has decided will occur if you are detected breaking the law, are sufficient to deter you from that act... Roll Eyes

So having no moral principles about obeying the law is fine by you?

Where did I suggest that, Herbie? Roll Eyes

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Quantum Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3373	Re: Brexit - the demographic issue Reply #313 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 7:12pm Go back to beating your wife Brian. There are laws against it of course, but who's going to enforce them in your own house? And even if they could, it's up to you to decide if the penalties that the Government has decided will occur are sufficient to deter you from that act... So bash away.
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Reply #314 - Jun 27^th, 2016 at 7:15pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 6:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 5:16pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 10:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

Brexit will help our exports to the UK.

We won't be stopped by EU quotas.

We should be rejoicing -

we now have a new market for beef, sheep, wool, dairy products etc.

That could be the way of it... but, then again nearly half voted to remain, so there will be plenty of pressure to continue trade if the English continue their drive towards dismemberment of the UK and exit from the EU.

Even as early as today the Scottish first minister intends to negotiate Scotland's re-entry into the EU in the event of a second referendum for Scottish independence and there's early talk of a border poll in Northern Ireland (although that would be a long shot).

Not sure if England alone would find Australian markets as physically accessible as European ones...

No - it's a great day for us & New Zealand - no more EU quotas to sell into the UK..

We can make windfall profits & recover from our debts.

Good idea, Bobbie. We'll send them Philippino aged-care nurses, shall we?

Cattle
Sheep
meat
wool
dairy products

the doors are now wide open - no quotas.

We will all get rich.

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