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Re: Brexit - the demographic issue
Reply #210 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:32pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:29pm:

One doesn't have to like a democratically obtained decision but one should always respect it. Was there electoral fraud? No. Was information either way cocealed from voters? No. Was there anything stopping those who CHOSE not to vote? No. MOST. Britons chose to leave the Eurozone. As far as I'm concerned (a truly non invested Aussie), JK Rowlands and Nigella Lawson can eat big fat d!cks.

When you say most Britons, with something as major as this they should have required a 2/3 majority.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Brexit - the demographic issue Reply #211 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:35pm The EU is a socialist experiment that is on its way to being disbanded. The redistribution of British wealth to prop up the failed countries of the south is one reason the Brexit vote carried the day.
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Re: Brexit - the demographic issue
Reply #212 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:43pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:35pm:

The EU is a socialist experiment that is on its way to being disbanded. The redistribution of British wealth to prop up the failed countries of the south is one reason the Brexit vote carried the day.

The EU grew out of the common market and is an effort among other things to ensure that war in Europe is impossible.

It's just that the English (a large number of them at least) have forgotten that and are reverting to their cultural instinct of dislike for Europe if not contempt for all non-English people.

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Re: Brexit - the demographic issue
Reply #213 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:52pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:43pm:

It's just that the English (a large number of them at least) have forgotten that and are reverting to their cultural instinct of dislike for Europe if not contempt for all non-English people.

Perhaps you need to do some research. It definitely seems a two way street.

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Re: Brexit - the demographic issue
Reply #214 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:56pm

lee wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:52pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:43pm:

It's just that the English (a large number of them at least) have forgotten that and are reverting to their cultural instinct of dislike for Europe if not contempt for all non-English people.

Perhaps you need to do some research. It definitely seems a two way street.

That's very true. Europeans may be culturally diverse in many ways but they seem generally united in their contempt for the English... It's hard for Europeans to like a people whose native white trash routinely trash European cities.

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Re: Brexit? Not so fast
Reply #215 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:08pm

Quantum wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

Needless to say, it is not compulsory to vote. All that is required is for potential voters to have their names marked off the electoral rolls, nothing more.

No matter how you paint it, Herbert, it is a lie to claim otherwise. And we all know you're not a liar, now are you, Herbie? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

From the AEC:

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Is voting compulsory?
Yes, under federal electoral law, it is compulsory for all eligible Australian citizens to enrol and vote in federal elections, by-elections and referendums.

For further information see Compulsory Voting.

From the "Compulsory Voting" page

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History of compulsory voting in Australia

Compulsory enrolment for federal elections was introduced in 1912
Compulsory voting for state elections was introduced in Queensland in 1915
Compulsory voting at federal elections was introduced in 1924.

How do you even get yourself out of bed in the morning you imbecile? You would argue rain falls from the ground to the sky just for the sake of getting your post count up. Your arrogance is only matched by your ignorance.

Does someone stand in the polling boot and make you put a mark on the Ballot Paper? YES/NO

Does someone make you accept a ballot paper when your name is marked off the Electoral Roll, upon entry to the Polling Station? YES/NO

So, Quantum, how do they make it compulsory for you to vote? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

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Re: Brexit? Not so fast
Reply #216 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:10pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 4:25pm:

Quantum wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

How do you even get yourself out of bed in the morning you imbecile? You would argue rain falls from the ground to the sky just for the sake of getting your post count up. Your arrogance is only matched by your ignorance.

Brian has always lived in a parallel universe where up is down, and down is up, and ...

He's quite harmless as long as he doesn't forget to take his daily medication and the weekly injection at his GP's.

Does someone stand in the polling boot and make you put a mark on the Ballot Paper? YES/NO

Does someone make you accept a ballot paper when your name is marked off the Electoral Roll, upon entry to the Polling Station? YES/NO

So, Herbie, how do they make it compulsory for you to vote? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

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Re: Brexit - the demographic issue
Reply #217 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:11pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 6:01pm:

From the AEC website:

"The
Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918
, under section 245(1), states:
”It shall be the duty of every elector to vote at each election”.
•
Under the Electoral Act, the actual duty of the elector is to attend a polling
place, have their name marked off the certified list, receive a ballot paper and
take it to an individual voting booth, mark it, fold the ballot paper and place it
in the ballot box.
•
It is not the case, as some people have claimed, that it is only compulsory to
attend the polling place and have your name marked off, and this has been
upheld by a number of legal decisions:
™
High Court 1926 –
Judd v McKeon (1926) 38 CLR 380
™
Supreme Court of Victoria 1970 –
Lubcke v Little [1970] VR 807
™
High Court 1971 –
Faderson v Bridger (1971) 126 CLR 271
™
Supreme Court of Queensland 1974 –
Krosch v Springbell; ex parte
Krosch [1974] QdR 107
™
ACT Supreme Court 1981 –
O’Brien v Warden (1981) 37 ACTR 13 "

Does someone stand in the polling boot and make you put a mark on the Ballot Paper? YES/NO

Does someone make you accept a ballot paper when your name is marked off the Electoral Roll, upon entry to the Polling Station? YES/NO

So, Belgarion, how do they make it compulsory for you to vote? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 120872 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Brexit - the demographic issue Reply #218 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:15pm Brexit will help our exports to the UK. We won't be stopped by EU quotas. We should be rejoicing - we now have a new market for beef, sheep, wool, dairy products etc.
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Reply #219 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:08pm:

Quantum wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

Needless to say, it is not compulsory to vote. All that is required is for potential voters to have their names marked off the electoral rolls, nothing more.

No matter how you paint it, Herbert, it is a lie to claim otherwise. And we all know you're not a liar, now are you, Herbie? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

From the AEC:

Quote:

Is voting compulsory?
Yes, under federal electoral law, it is compulsory for all eligible Australian citizens to enrol and vote in federal elections, by-elections and referendums.

For further information see Compulsory Voting.

From the "Compulsory Voting" page

Quote:

History of compulsory voting in Australia

Compulsory enrolment for federal elections was introduced in 1912
Compulsory voting for state elections was introduced in Queensland in 1915
Compulsory voting at federal elections was introduced in 1924.

How do you even get yourself out of bed in the morning you imbecile? You would argue rain falls from the ground to the sky just for the sake of getting your post count up. Your arrogance is only matched by your ignorance.

Does someone stand in the polling boot and make you put a mark on the Ballot Paper? YES/NO

Does someone make you accept a ballot paper when your name is marked off the Electoral Roll, upon entry to the Polling Station? YES/NO

So, Quantum, how do they make it compulsory for you to vote? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

The local highway where I live has no speed cameras. You hardly ever see a police car on it either. So if I drive down it at 240 (130 over the limit) and I don't get caught, by your moronic thinking that is perfectly fine. If the speed limit isn't getting enforced then there is no speed limit. Only enforced limits actually apply. That's the kind of idiotic logic you are using here.

You are a complete spastic with no shame. Anyone with half a brain would admit they were wrong or just leave the thread. Not you but. You will argue black is white until you're purple and still think you have won the argument because you're too thick headed to know when to quit. It's just smacking sad.

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Re: Brexit - the demographic issue
Reply #220 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 10:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

Brexit will help our exports to the UK.

We won't be stopped by EU quotas.

We should be rejoicing -

we now have a new market for beef, sheep, wool, dairy products etc.

That could be the way of it... but, then again nearly half voted to remain, so there will be plenty of pressure to continue trade if the English continue their drive towards dismemberment of the UK and exit from the EU.

Even as early as today the Scottish first minister intends to negotiate Scotland's re-entry into the EU in the event of a second referendum for Scottish independence and there's early talk of a border poll in Northern Ireland (although that would be a long shot).

Not sure if England alone would find Australian markets as physically accessible as European ones...

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Brexit - the demographic issue Reply #221 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:47pm Another casualty of all this (if Scotland does secede from the UK over Brexit, even more so if Northern Ireland unifies with the Republic) is the UK's permanent membership on the UN Security Council...
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Reply #222 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:48pm

Quantum wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:08pm:

Quantum wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

Needless to say, it is not compulsory to vote. All that is required is for potential voters to have their names marked off the electoral rolls, nothing more.

No matter how you paint it, Herbert, it is a lie to claim otherwise. And we all know you're not a liar, now are you, Herbie? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

From the AEC:

Quote:

Is voting compulsory?
Yes, under federal electoral law, it is compulsory for all eligible Australian citizens to enrol and vote in federal elections, by-elections and referendums.

For further information see Compulsory Voting.

From the "Compulsory Voting" page

Quote:

History of compulsory voting in Australia

Compulsory enrolment for federal elections was introduced in 1912
Compulsory voting for state elections was introduced in Queensland in 1915
Compulsory voting at federal elections was introduced in 1924.

How do you even get yourself out of bed in the morning you imbecile? You would argue rain falls from the ground to the sky just for the sake of getting your post count up. Your arrogance is only matched by your ignorance.

Does someone stand in the polling boot and make you put a mark on the Ballot Paper? YES/NO

Does someone make you accept a ballot paper when your name is marked off the Electoral Roll, upon entry to the Polling Station? YES/NO

So, Quantum, how do they make it compulsory for you to vote? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

The local highway where I live has no speed cameras. You hardly ever see a police car on it either. So if I drive down it at 240 (130 over the limit) and I don't get caught, by your moronic thinking that is perfectly fine. If the speed limit isn't getting enforced then there is no speed limit. Only enforced limits actually apply. That's the kind of idiotic logic you are using here.

You are a complete spastic with no shame. Anyone with half a brain would admit they were wrong or just leave the thread. Not you but. You will argue black is white until you're purple and still think you have won the argument because you're too thick headed to know when to quit. It's just smacking sad.

Unable to answer the questions honestly, Quantum? Tsk, tsk.

Perhaps you do need someone looking over your shoulder when you vote, right? Roll Eyes

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Re: Brexit - the demographic issue
Reply #223 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:49pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:47pm:

Another casualty of all this (if Scotland does secede from the UK over Brexit, even more so if Northern Ireland unifies with the Republic) is the UK's permanent membership on the UN Security Council...

They have thermonuclear weapons. They will forever sit on it like the only other four with the H-Bomb.

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Reply #224 - Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:50pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:48pm:

Quantum wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:08pm:

Quantum wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

Needless to say, it is not compulsory to vote. All that is required is for potential voters to have their names marked off the electoral rolls, nothing more.

No matter how you paint it, Herbert, it is a lie to claim otherwise. And we all know you're not a liar, now are you, Herbie? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

From the AEC:

Quote:

Is voting compulsory?
Yes, under federal electoral law, it is compulsory for all eligible Australian citizens to enrol and vote in federal elections, by-elections and referendums.

For further information see Compulsory Voting.

From the "Compulsory Voting" page

Quote:

History of compulsory voting in Australia

Compulsory enrolment for federal elections was introduced in 1912
Compulsory voting for state elections was introduced in Queensland in 1915
Compulsory voting at federal elections was introduced in 1924.

How do you even get yourself out of bed in the morning you imbecile? You would argue rain falls from the ground to the sky just for the sake of getting your post count up. Your arrogance is only matched by your ignorance.

Does someone stand in the polling boot and make you put a mark on the Ballot Paper? YES/NO

Does someone make you accept a ballot paper when your name is marked off the Electoral Roll, upon entry to the Polling Station? YES/NO

So, Quantum, how do they make it compulsory for you to vote? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

The local highway where I live has no speed cameras. You hardly ever see a police car on it either. So if I drive down it at 240 (130 over the limit) and I don't get caught, by your moronic thinking that is perfectly fine. If the speed limit isn't getting enforced then there is no speed limit. Only enforced limits actually apply. That's the kind of idiotic logic you are using here.

You are a complete spastic with no shame. Anyone with half a brain would admit they were wrong or just leave the thread. Not you but. You will argue black is white until you're purple and still think you have won the argument because you're too thick headed to know when to quit. It's just smacking sad.

Unable to answer the questions honestly, Quantum? Tsk, tsk.

Perhaps you do need someone looking over your shoulder when you vote, right? Roll Eyes

You lost the argument. You were proven wrong. Have some dignity.

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