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Brexit - the demographic issue
Jun 22nd, 2016 at 6:50pm
 
Squeezing in a quick Brexit thread before the result is known in the next couple of days...

ok, something that isn't discussed much is the age divide on this issue - basically, most young people want to stay, most old people want to go.

So here's the problem: Brexit is likely something that can't be reversed. Now I don't buy into the alarmist arguments against leaving, but its very likely there will be some negative consequences, and the British will have to live with those consequences for decades to come. And yet if the leave vote gets up, the people who enabled that vote to get up - ie old people - will be dead soon, and won't have to live with the negative consequences of a Brexit. Its the young people - who will overwhelmingly vote against it, who will have to pay.

I don't think thats fair. Discuss.
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Reply #1 - Jun 22nd, 2016 at 7:30pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 6:50pm:
ok, something that isn't discussed much is the age divide on this issue - basically, most young people want to stay, most old people want to go.


The split I've noticed is that shielas vote to stay and men vote to leave, but this has been observed among actual british people.  The younger demographic includes much more "british" people of decidedly non-british descent, so of course they'll vote to stay.

This is a vote of shielas and immigrants against native men.  The world wars  really did a number on Europe - if all the good men weren't killed off, they'd have never let it come to this.
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Reply #2 - Jun 22nd, 2016 at 7:50pm
 
The really sad thing is that government has been able to install this wedge between us at all, in an ideal society government would hardly ever be heard of and the will of the people via the forces of the free market would rule supreme.   

The fact that government is always at the forefront instead of being at the rear is the abomination, government has manipulated itself into this position in order to perpetuate its own self for its own ends, government is just a racket, no different from the mafia, an organisation that government could quite easily use as a role model.
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Reply #3 - Jun 22nd, 2016 at 8:25pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 6:50pm:
Squeezing in a quick Brexit thread before the result is known in the next couple of days...

ok, something that isn't discussed much is the age divide on this issue - basically, most young people want to stay, most old people want to go.

So here's the problem: Brexit is likely something that can't be reversed. Now I don't buy into the alarmist arguments against leaving, but its very likely there will be some negative consequences, and the British will have to live with those consequences for decades to come. And yet if the leave vote gets up, the people who enabled that vote to get up - ie old people - will be dead soon, and won't have to live with the negative consequences of a Brexit. Its the young people - who will overwhelmingly vote against it, who will have to pay.

I don't think thats fair. Discuss.


And therein, lays "part" of what is currently happening, but only a part!

There is "a LOT MORE GOING ON WITH THE AGING ISSUES", than many/most can get their heads around & then, there are those who don't want to, because it gets in the road of THEIR SHORT TERM INTERESTS (No, not you Gandolf).

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Reply #4 - Jun 22nd, 2016 at 9:27pm
 
The most telling thing about the entire issue is that the British are not prepared to give up the Pound Sterling. And any idea that unity is strength, in the European context, has been dispelled with the collapse of their borders. In this case, unity is weakness. The young will most certainly inherit the consequences.
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Reply #5 - Jun 23rd, 2016 at 8:18am
 
"It's the very same people in the Remain Camp who have led the charge of silencing the people of Britain over the decades, dictating what we are and are not allowed to think. What we can and cannot say. What is debate or what is hate. Policing thought.

In the years since WW2, these British elites have undermined our own culture and confidence - a process accelerating in the race for metropolitan multiculturalism. Allowing Muslim cultures to take advantage of this tolerance, colonising our country all the while with their intolerant religion.

And whilst we may be struggling for facts and truth, we can look around at blatant realities hidden from view.

Eight miles from Jo Cox's constituency 25 men have been sentenced for child prostitution. She saved Syrian children but eight miles away a gang of Muslim men were abusing our own. This only made the regional pages of the BBC news.

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"Many of us have waited a lifetime to have our say. Our grandfathers fought with Enfields and bayonets. The mark of respect for their legacy, we now fight for their memory by putting a cross in the box marked leave.

We're not racist, we're not Little Englanders.

We're Great Britons and we want Great Britain back.

Back Brexit. Back Britain. Vote leave".


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There isn't a hope that Britain will leave the EU, and that's because millions of Muslims and other coloured immigrants will back the STAYERS rather than leave themselves vulnerable to an increasingly unsympathetic British public.
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Reply #6 - Jun 23rd, 2016 at 8:34am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 8:18am:
"It's the very same people in the Remain Camp who have led the charge of silencing the people of Britain over the decades, dictating what we are and are not allowed to think. What we can and cannot say. What is debate or what is hate. Policing thought.

In the years since WW2, these British elites have undermined our own culture and confidence - a process accelerating in the race for metropolitan multiculturalism. Allowing Muslim cultures to take advantage of this tolerance, colonising our country all the while with their intolerant religion.

And whilst we may be struggling for facts and truth, we can look around at blatant realities hidden from view.

Eight miles from Jo Cox's constituency 25 men have been sentenced for child prostitution. She saved Syrian children but eight miles away a gang of Muslim men were abusing our own. This only made the regional pages of the BBC news.

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"Many of us have waited a lifetime to have our say. Our grandfathers fought with Enfields and bayonets. The mark of respect for their legacy, we now fight for their memory by putting a cross in the box marked leave.

We're not racist, we're not Little Englanders.

We're Great Britons and we want Great Britain back.

Back Brexit. Back Britain. Vote leave".


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There isn't a hope that Britain will leave the EU, and that's because millions of Muslims and other coloured immigrants will back the STAYERS rather than leave themselves vulnerable to an increasingly unsympathetic British public.




they may not have the vote herb??>..

lets be honest everyone expected Scotland to vote Yes didnt they..?????....... Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #7 - Jun 23rd, 2016 at 9:07am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 6:50pm:
Squeezing in a quick Brexit thread before the result is known in the next couple of days...

ok, something that isn't discussed much is the age divide on this issue - basically, most young people want to stay, most old people want to go.


Basically, it's no such thing.

It's immigrants and their second and third generation offspring - AND the Illegals who want the Security Blanket of knowing the lawyers in Brussels will defend them against the decisions of the British courts so they can't be deported.


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Reply #8 - Jun 23rd, 2016 at 9:17am
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 7:50pm:
The really sad thing is that government has been able to install this wedge between us at all, in an ideal society government would hardly ever be heard of and the will of the people via the forces of the free market would rule supreme.   

The fact that government is always at the forefront instead of being at the rear is the abomination, government has manipulated itself into this position in order to perpetuate its own self for its own ends, government is just a racket, no different from the mafia, an organisation that government could quite easily use as a role model. 



Bravo,
like when some chode of a boss tries to micro manage everyone in the business and the whole thing implodes.
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Reply #9 - Jun 23rd, 2016 at 9:18am
 
cods wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 8:34am:
they may not have the vote herb??>..

lets be honest everyone expected Scotland to vote Yes didnt they..?????....... Smiley Smiley Smiley


I'm pretty sure the STAY vote will win.

The committed borderless One Worlders, the Muslims, the coloured folk, and the massive hordes of Illegals wandering the British countryside all want the International Socialists who predominate in the EU parliament to watch over them.

They want the ridiculous situation of London no longer being populated by an English majority to be expanded further afield to all the other major cities.

This is what is called 'Multicultural Critical Mass' when the tail starts to wag the dog.





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Reply #10 - Jun 23rd, 2016 at 9:22am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 8:18am:
"It's the very same people in the Remain Camp who have led the charge of silencing the people of Britain over the decades, dictating what we are and are not allowed to think. What we can and cannot say. What is debate or what is hate. Policing thought.

In the years since WW2, these British elites have undermined our own culture and confidence - a process accelerating in the race for metropolitan multiculturalism. Allowing Muslim cultures to take advantage of this tolerance, colonising our country all the while with their intolerant religion.

And whilst we may be struggling for facts and truth, we can look around at blatant realities hidden from view.

Eight miles from Jo Cox's constituency 25 men have been sentenced for child prostitution. She saved Syrian children but eight miles away a gang of Muslim men were abusing our own. This only made the regional pages of the BBC news.

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"Many of us have waited a lifetime to have our say. Our grandfathers fought with Enfields and bayonets. The mark of respect for their legacy, we now fight for their memory by putting a cross in the box marked leave.

We're not racist, we're not Little Englanders.

We're Great Britons and we want Great Britain back.

Back Brexit. Back Britain. Vote leave".


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There isn't a hope that Britain will leave the EU, and that's because millions of Muslims and other coloured immigrants will back the STAYERS rather than leave themselves vulnerable to an increasingly unsympathetic British public.



rule britannia Herb.
Why did such a powerful and influential people give up.
maybe all the powerful and influential genes are lying in the fields of the Somme and only the meek and fearful cowards were left to pass on their beta male genes.
Tragic Herbert.
I used to love watching movies with the mighty redcoats delivering the "good news" to the various  scrubby nations .

Make Britain Great Again !!!!!
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Reply #11 - Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:57am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 9:18am:
cods wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 8:34am:
they may not have the vote herb??>..

lets be honest everyone expected Scotland to vote Yes didnt they..?????....... Smiley Smiley Smiley


I'm pretty sure the STAY vote will win.



Yes, in a scenario much like the Austrian election where the "wrong" option had a commanding lead, yet when all appeared lost, they magically found a heap of postal votes that were 110% for the "correct" option.
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Reply #12 - Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:56am
 
... wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:57am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 9:18am:
cods wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 8:34am:
they may not have the vote herb??>..

lets be honest everyone expected Scotland to vote Yes didnt they..?????....... Smiley Smiley Smiley


I'm pretty sure the STAY vote will win.



Yes, in a scenario much like the Austrian election where the "wrong" option had a commanding lead, yet when all appeared lost, they magically found a heap of postal votes that were 110% for the "correct" option.


If the OUT! vote wins it could signal the beginning of a move towards the 'Right' in the UK leadership. It could be the start of dumping multicultural ghettoism for assimilation.

There are prisoners in the UK who can't be deported because the Court at The Hague says these offenders have a right to 'a family life' which they would be denied if they were sent out of the country.

This sort of nonsense will not be remedied if Britain remains a captive to foreign courts and bureaucrats.
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Reply #13 - Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:14pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 9:22am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 8:18am:
"It's the very same people in the Remain Camp who have led the charge of silencing the people of Britain over the decades, dictating what we are and are not allowed to think. What we can and cannot say. What is debate or what is hate. Policing thought.

In the years since WW2, these British elites have undermined our own culture and confidence - a process accelerating in the race for metropolitan multiculturalism. Allowing Muslim cultures to take advantage of this tolerance, colonising our country all the while with their intolerant religion.

And whilst we may be struggling for facts and truth, we can look around at blatant realities hidden from view.

Eight miles from Jo Cox's constituency 25 men have been sentenced for child prostitution. She saved Syrian children but eight miles away a gang of Muslim men were abusing our own. This only made the regional pages of the BBC news.

**

"Many of us have waited a lifetime to have our say. Our grandfathers fought with Enfields and bayonets. The mark of respect for their legacy, we now fight for their memory by putting a cross in the box marked leave.

We're not racist, we're not Little Englanders.

We're Great Britons and we want Great Britain back.

Back Brexit. Back Britain. Vote leave".


link

There isn't a hope that Britain will leave the EU, and that's because millions of Muslims and other coloured immigrants will back the STAYERS rather than leave themselves vulnerable to an increasingly unsympathetic British public.



rule britannia Herb.
Why did such a powerful and influential people give up.
maybe all the powerful and influential genes are lying in the fields of the Somme and only the meek and fearful cowards were left to pass on their beta male genes.
Tragic Herbert.
I used to love watching movies with the mighty redcoats delivering the "good news" to the various  scrubby nations .

Make Britain Great Again !!!!!


This is it.  Europe was left in a masculinity vacuum mostly due to the millions of men that died, and the forces of nature are filling that vacuum. 

What is not clear is why Russia, having lost scores of millions, was not as badly affected, and why Australia, having lost relatively bugger all, is suffering the same fate, albeit over a longer timespan.
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Reply #14 - Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:30pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 9:22am:
rule britannia Herb.
Why did such a powerful and influential people give up.
maybe all the powerful and influential genes are lying in the fields of the Somme and only the meek and fearful cowards were left to pass on their beta male genes.
Tragic Herbert.
I used to love watching movies with the mighty redcoats delivering the "good news" to the various  scrubby nations .

Make Britain Great Again !!!!!


Unfortunately Britain is now totally compromised up to the back teeth with all its millions of immigrants since the 1950's. The horse has long since bolted. Any promotion of British nationalism is now immediately shouted down as RACIST and a snub to the millions of newcomers.

Britain's leadership has been in the hands of girly-men for decades now.
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