stryder wrote on Jun 20
th, 2016 at 12:02am:
Jesus Christ is probably the best known person who ever lived and maybe there is some truth in it, his name is certainly widely known to a great segment of humanity, but I find it hard to believe he was some supernatural figure, whether the son of god or one of the three in the holy trinity, whatever.
But many people would expect me to believe in this divinely supernatural figure who died a bloody death through crucification to some how save humanity from itself and usher it in a new relationship with god,
Given how my mind works, I simply do not buy it, now I believe that jesus Christ may have existed but was just a human being like you and me, and some how he had a story behind him which has been immensely exaggerated over the centuries from a human being to this supernatural deity who is worshiped as such.
The most erroneous part of that post was to say "the best known person who ever lived". There is no truth in saying that Jesus ever lived and died as the person told in the Bible, simply because there is no evidence that can show that Jesus ever lived. Santa Claus is also a well-known person, too. Yet, he is based on lies and his existent is false.
If you could time travel back 2000 years, you would not find some teenager/young adult in Judea who could perform miracles at will, or who held audiences captive with his speeches/teachings. Most of the bible is made up of stories about mythology. The story of Jesus being among the mythology.
I can't entertain that someone would live to perform miraculous acts of God, and not be used by the Roman Empire to help alleviate suffering/make Rome even stronger. It's the whole "ho-hum" attitude of people after Jesus' death that leaves me to believe that, had Jesus been real, he did not have a major impact on his community. It feels as if the story about Jesus was that he did not want to prove his worth to people, and died as a fraud, and one massive disappointment.
I would not consider Jesus to have ever existed beyond the fables told in the Bible.
You say there is no such truth that jesus ever lived, it seems hard to believe that given the legacy of christianity with its scale in impact and effects whether positive or negative which spread throughtout the world and through time was a story made up in some obscure persons imagination is way too hard to rationally fathom.
My second point is that even if you believe or come to accept that jesus was an actual person who existed, doesnt mean you have to buy into the whole supernatural divinal elements that has surrounded this central figure of christianity.
the purpose of this thread is while accepting that jesus may have existed, im trying to dig through the supernaturality around him and get to something close to the actual human being himself whose story which has a very significant impact in world history.