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Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:15am
 
Warragamba Dam wall to be raised to avoid catastrophic flood event


Three days before Warragamba Dam could spill due to severe storms, the Baird government has committed to raising its wall to prevent a potential flood disaster in western Sydney, four years after being advised to review the options.

As a looming east coast low raised the possibility that the dam could spill on Sunday, the government said it will commit $58 million towards raising the wall by 14 metres to avoid a catastrophe that could place 43,000 western Sydney residents at risk.

Construction, at an estimated cost of about $690 million, is expected to be complete within three to four years after a business case is signed off in 2019, subject to planning approvals.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/warragamba-dam-wall-to-be-raised-to-avoid-catastrophic...


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Reply #1 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:21am
 
A NEW coal port that will cement Newcastle's place as the largest coal exporter in the world is quietly being built up by several metres, apparently in preparation for the rising sea levels brought about by climate chang


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Reply #2 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:26am
 
____ wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:15am:
Warragamba Dam wall to be raised to avoid catastrophic flood event


Three days before Warragamba Dam could spill due to severe storms, the Baird government has committed to raising its wall to prevent a potential flood disaster in western Sydney, four years after being advised to review the options.

As a looming east coast low raised the possibility that the dam could spill on Sunday, the government said it will commit $58 million towards raising the wall by 14 metres to avoid a catastrophe that could place 43,000 western Sydney residents at risk.

Construction, at an estimated cost of about $690 million, is expected to be complete within three to four years after a business case is signed off in 2019, subject to planning approvals.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/warragamba-dam-wall-to-be-raised-to-avoid-catastrophic...


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Sydney wont have to worry about its supply of water then ...good move!
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Reply #3 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:28am
 
Only the truly misguided could equate a plan to increase the Sydney water supply with alleged man made warming.
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Reply #4 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:32am
 
Extremes of human caused climate change include deeper droughts and extreme rain events.


Government is lifting dam infrastructure, when are they starting on lifting Kingsford Smith Airport, lifting all the roads, barricading along the coast and rivers, protecting Sydney Harbour from the rising ocean ... and who will pay?
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Reply #5 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:36am
 
Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:28am:
Only the truly misguided could equate a plan to increase the Sydney water supply with alleged man made warming.



It's about dangerous flooding due to increasing extremes from human caused climate change.
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Reply #6 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 10:38am
 
Global warming causes erections?
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Reply #7 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 10:42am
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 10:38am:
Global warming causes erections?


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Reply #8 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 10:47am
 
____ wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:36am:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:28am:
Only the truly misguided could equate a plan to increase the Sydney water supply with alleged man made warming.



It's about dangerous flooding due to increasing extremes from human caused climate change.


Actually I disagree with this proposal to raise the dam wall. It will result in the destruction of a world heritage area and increase population pressure in the Sydney basin. 

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Reply #9 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 10:57am
 
Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 10:47am:
____ wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:36am:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:28am:
Only the truly misguided could equate a plan to increase the Sydney water supply with alleged man made warming.



It's about dangerous flooding due to increasing extremes from human caused climate change.


Actually I disagree with this proposal to raise the dam wall. It will result in the destruction of a world heritage area and increase population pressure in the Sydney basin. 



First question is this only a barrier to hold back large volumes of water during flood periods , to be quickly let out afterwards? If this is the case the world heritage area may not be as badly affected as if it was permanently flooded

What are the alternatives then? Leave as is and let a large part of western Sydney flood next time, that is a major destruction as well.
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Reply #10 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 11:11am
 
The dam is rarely full, probably not more than once in 10 years.

Sydney already has a desalination plant, therefore the need for more water once every ten years when the dam is full is dubious at best.

Will it take a 100 year rainfall to fill to the new height?

The whole thing is dubious at best, if not a misappropriation of public money, and somebody is  going to make a lot of money from construction of a white elephant:

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Warragamba Dam levels have exceeded 80 per cent for the first time in nearly 10 years.

The dam, 60 kilometres west of Sydney, is the city's primary water source. The Warragamba catchment area is 9000 square kilometres.

The last time the dam's levels rose above 80 per cent was June 2002, according to the Sydney Catchment Authority.

It was at its lowest in February 2007 when it fell to less than 33 per cent.
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In April 2005, when the dam was at little more than 40 per cent of its capacity, the environmentalist Tim Flannery said it might be in terminal decline. It had only two years' supply.

From January 2010 to 2011, dam levels increased from nearly 50 per cent to 76 per cent, as an unusually wet spring replenished supplies after the drought.

The last time Sydney dams were full was 1998.

Debbie Low, a spokeswoman for the Sydney Catchment Authority, says dam levels are typically affected by factors such as consistency of rainfall, soil moisture and evaporation caused by summer heat.

But they are also affected by political decisions and have political consequences.

Water had previously been transferred to Warragamba from the full Tallowa dam on the upper Shoalhaven River.

But the previous state Labor government cut off these transfers in 2008 and imposed a three-year moratorium. Excess water from Tallowa was instead diverted to surrounding rivers, which flowed into the sea. Transfers were resumed briefly in September but have since been cut off.

Had the transfers continued over this period, Warragamba would be close to full, according to projections obtained by the Herald.

The Greens say the government has manipulated Warragamba levels to keep them lower so the privatisation of the desalination plant at Kurnell is more attractive.

Now that Warragamba's levels are more than 80 per cent, the supply from the desalination plant has been reduced.

If Warragamba levels stay above 80 per cent for two years, the plant's supply will be cut off until levels reach 75 per cent again.

The government is trying to sell the Kurnell plant for an estimated $1.5 billion.

The Greens oppose the sale, arguing that the plant should be shut because its output is unnecessary and adds nearly $100 to the average water bill.

They point to Warragamba's rise above 80 per cent as further evidence it is not needed.

But the government has welcomed the rise of dam levels and says it will not affect the decision to privatise the desalination plant.

"This will have absolutely no impact on the long-term lease of the plant," the Minister for Finance and Services, Greg Pearce, said.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/water-issues/dam-level-hits-10year-high-201112...
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Reply #11 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 11:19am
 
____ wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:15am:
Warragamba Dam wall to be raised to avoid catastrophic flood event


Three days before Warragamba Dam could spill due to severe storms, the Baird government has committed to raising its wall to prevent a potential flood disaster in western Sydney, four years after being advised to review the options.

As a looming east coast low raised the possibility that the dam could spill on Sunday, the government said it will commit $58 million towards raising the wall by 14 metres to avoid a catastrophe that could place 43,000 western Sydney residents at risk.

Anyone still want to still deny human caused climate change ?


Tim Flannery a radical imam from the Climate change religion was preaching Warragamba dam would never be full again and warned there was only 2 years worth of water left in 2005.

The Climate change religion makes it up as they go along, can you get your story straight with this dam.
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Climate change is working against Sydney, There's only two years water supply in Warragamba dam says Flannery

Warragamba Dam is never again going to be full
Leftist source- smh.com.au/news/Opinion/Running-out-of-water--and-time/2005/04/24/1114281450815....


We listened to the fearmongers on climate change and spent billions on desalination plants that are not used because they are not needed.





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Reply #12 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 12:22pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 11:19am:
____ wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:15am:
Warragamba Dam wall to be raised to avoid catastrophic flood event


Three days before Warragamba Dam could spill due to severe storms, the Baird government has committed to raising its wall to prevent a potential flood disaster in western Sydney, four years after being advised to review the options.

As a looming east coast low raised the possibility that the dam could spill on Sunday, the government said it will commit $58 million towards raising the wall by 14 metres to avoid a catastrophe that could place 43,000 western Sydney residents at risk.

Anyone still want to still deny human caused climate change ?


Tim Flannery a radical imam from the Climate change religion was preaching Warragamba dam would never be full again and warned there was only 2 years worth of water left in 2005.

The Climate change religion makes it up as they go along, can you get your story straight with this dam.
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Climate change is working against Sydney, There's only two years water supply in Warragamba dam says Flannery

Warragamba Dam is never again going to be full
Leftist source- smh.com.au/news/Opinion/Running-out-of-water--and-time/2005/04/24/1114281450815....


We listened to the fearmongers on climate change and spent billions on desalination plants that are not used because they are not needed.








Cherry picking opinions and calling other's names.


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Reply #13 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 12:24pm
 
What if an entity bought the Kurnell desalination plant at a giveaway price and made a big profit? Shipped it to an overseas buyer and sold the land?
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Reply #14 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 12:52pm
 
____ wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:36am:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:28am:
Only the truly misguided could equate a plan to increase the Sydney water supply with alleged man made warming.



It's about dangerous flooding due to increasing extremes from human caused climate change.



'Event attribution aims to estimate the role of an external driver after the occurrence of an extreme weather and climate event by comparing the probability that the event occurs in two counterfactual worlds. These probabilities are typically computed using ensembles of climate simulations whose simulated probabilities are known to be imperfect. The implications of using imperfect models in this context are largely unknown, limited by the number of observed extreme events in the past to conduct a robust evaluation. Using an idealized framework, this model limitation is studied by generating large number of simulations with variable reliability in simulated probability. The framework illustrates that unreliable climate simulations are prone to overestimate the attributable risk to climate change. Climate model ensembles tend to be overconfident in their representation of the climate variability which leads to systematic increase in the attributable risk to an extreme event. Our results suggest that event attribution approaches comprising of a single climate model would benefit from ensemble calibration in order to account for model inadequacies similarly as operational forecasting systems.'

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2015GL067189/abstract?utm_source=Dail...

'By various measures (drought area1 and intensity2, climatic aridity index3, and climatic water deficits4), some observational analyses have suggested that much of the Earth’s land has been drying during recent decades, but such drying seems inconsistent with observations of dryland greening and decreasing pan evaporation5. ‘Offline’ analyses of climate-model outputs from anthropogenic climate change (ACC) experiments portend continuation of putative drying through the twenty-first century3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, despite an expected increase in global land precipitation9. A ubiquitous increase in estimates of potential evapotranspiration (PET), driven by atmospheric warming11, underlies the drying trends4, 8, 9, 12, but may be a methodological artefact5. Here we show that the PET estimator commonly used (the Penman–Monteith PET13 for either an open-water surface1, 2, 6, 7, 12 or a reference crop3, 4, 8, 9, 11) severely overpredicts the changes in non-water-stressed evapotranspiration computed in the climate models themselves in ACC experiments. '

http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate3046.html

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