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Question: Should Bendigo Mosque receive a warm welcome

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Reply #150 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 5:28pm
 
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Yet Christians still commit atrocities, Moses.  Amazing how they've never seen to have heard of all these instructions from Christ not to commit sins...

So, Christian Churches accept non-Christians as their Priests, do they, Moses?  Really?
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And so Christians still commit atrocities just as they always have since the coming of Christ and the creation of the Churches which worship him..
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And so Christians still commit atrocities just as they always have since the coming of Christ and the creation of the Churches which worship him...
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Not me, Moses.  Talk to your fellow Christians who commit the atrocities.  Why aren't you trying to reform the members of your own religion who are breaking it's commandments?  Mmmm?
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No, I am showing that you are not obeying your own Lord's command in John 8:7.
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Yet they keep defining themselves as Christians...  Perhaps you need to clean up your own house, instead of ignoring what you fellow Christians are doing in it's name?   
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Yet, in their words, they believe they are Christians, Moses.
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Must be wonderful to just jettison your fellow co-religionists like that.   Saves you having to take any responsiblity for their beliefs and acts...
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Where have I lied ("knowingly told an untruth"), Moses?
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I believe Christians should take responsibility for their sins and the sins of their Churches and their fellow co-religionists.   You however keep ducking away, declaring them to be non-Christians despite what they themselves apparently believe.   Funny that.
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No dishonesty on my part, Moses.  You, however, on the otherhand...
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Yet, they commit them in the name of Christ, Moses.
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We only have your word on that, Moses.   The everyday, moderate, sane, normal, Muslims disagree.   I'll take their word over the word of a noted bigot and Xenophobe like yourself.


All that typing just to try and push your anti Christian  deceit that there can be no pseudo Christians in this world, even though Christian doctrine warns of them.

You're desperately trying to tell us that there is no such thing as an impostor, faker or a fraud.

Well I've got news for you impersonating certain people is actually against the law.

For instance you are not to misrepresent yourself as a  members of the police forces, returned servicemen, doctors, nurses etc.

Now I know your anti Christian sentiment causes your desire to fallaciously propagate hatred against Christians.

However your hatred is not a cause of concern amongst Christian people, you are actually proof of Christs teachings: Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

So we are back at the beginning you are totally unable to give any teaching of Christ which supports, causes or motivates human rights atrocities. (unlike islam which urges torture and murder as the high path for muslims)

Your anti Christian hatred and lies are proof of the truth in the doctrine of Christ.
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Reply #151 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 5:44pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 11:34pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
Explain how 'mainstream' and 'extremist' Muslims interpret the Koran and hadith
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They don't.

They can't.

It's toxic, murderous bloody mayhem.  There is no 'moderate' Islam, only backsliding Islam.


Spoken like a true bigot.  Well done, you've just won the argument for me with your closed-minded. Islamophobic bullshit.   Roll Eyes



You won't get off that easily, Brian, just virtue-signalling as ever.

You maintain very stridently that there is a difference between mainstram and extreme Muslims. Well, explain then how they differ in their interpretation of the Koranic texts and the deeds of Mohammed.  YOU want to draw a distinction bertween their religious views, not me. Explain then HOW and WHERE these two supposed camps of Muslims draw the interpretive line of their texts.

You can call a friend, if you like, because I am absolutely certain that you have no idea how to answer the question (other than avoiding it and talking about Christians). That's why you always resort to virtue-signalling and bigotry-peddling every time you are asked a concrete question to support your fatuous fantasies.




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Re: Bendigo Mosque recieves final go-ahead
Reply #152 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 6:02pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 8:22pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 11:46am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 6:36pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 6:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
I am bemoaning the costs that Islam Christianity inflicts on the world from it's misogyny, it's bigotry, it's homophobia, it's racism, it's exploitation of minors, it's advocation of hatred and misery for billions of people throughout it's history, amongst other things. 



Me too. And millions of others.


Naughty! Naughty!  Changing my words does not become you.   Such a silly naive debating tactic.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Islam's impact on the world today is far, far worse than any other religion or ideology, with the possible exception of of neo-Marxist progressivism which you represent.


Me, a "neo-Marxist"?  My god, you are so far out in right field you cannot even perceive the centre if you believe that comment.   Roll Eyes

As for the cost of Islam today versus the cost of Christianity, that is easy to say now that Christianity is no longer as militant as it once was.  If we look back through history billions have died because of Christianity and it's crazy evangelistic views on exporting it's religious beliefs to the rest of the world from Europe.  Roll Eyes




Soooooo... what are the current costs of Christianity and the current costs of Islam?


Explain, our little Neo-Marxist apologist - that's right, Neo-Marxist ideologue, for you are not representing the centre view in anything, not even close.


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Re: Bendigo Mosque recieves final go-ahead
Reply #153 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 6:48pm
 
moses wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 5:28pm:
All that typing just to try and push your anti Christian  deceit that there can be no pseudo Christians in this world, even though Christian doctrine warns of them.


Oh, I can accept that there are "Pseudo-Christians" in "the world", Moses.  Are you one?

My problem is getting you to admit that "Pseudo-Christians" claim they are just plain "Christians", Moses.   Afterall, they proclaim they believe in Christ and his rising from the grave to save them, while they are still committing sins in his name...   Roll Eyes


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So we are back at the beginning you are totally unable to give any teaching of Christ which supports, causes or motivates human rights atrocities. (unlike islam which urges torture and murder as the high path for muslims)

Your anti Christian hatred and lies are proof of the truth in the doctrine of Christ.


Yet we still have those that proclaim themselves as being Christians committing atrocities around the world, Moses.   We have you, working against the teachings of your own Christ in your hatred and bigotry against non-Christians.   Don't you think it's time you dropped your pretence and your lies and admitted that sinful Christians exist?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Bendigo Mosque recieves final go-ahead
Reply #154 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 6:50pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 5:44pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 11:34pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
Explain how 'mainstream' and 'extremist' Muslims interpret the Koran and hadith
differently
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They don't.

They can't.

It's toxic, murderous bloody mayhem.  There is no 'moderate' Islam, only backsliding Islam.


Spoken like a true bigot.  Well done, you've just won the argument for me with your closed-minded. Islamophobic bullshit.   Roll Eyes



You won't get off that easily, Brian, just virtue-signalling as ever.

You maintain very stridently that there is a difference between mainstram and extreme Muslims. Well, explain then how they differ in their interpretation of the Koranic texts and the deeds of Mohammed.  YOU want to draw a distinction bertween their religious views, not me. Explain then HOW and WHERE these two supposed camps of Muslims draw the interpretive line of their texts.

You can call a friend, if you like, because I am absolutely certain that you have no idea how to answer the question (other than avoiding it and talking about Christians). That's why you always resort to virtue-signalling and bigotry-peddling every time you are asked a concrete question to support your fatuous fantasies.


They differ in their views and acts, Frank.  Just as good and bad Christians differ.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Bendigo Mosque recieves final go-ahead
Reply #155 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:02pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 5:44pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 11:34pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
Explain how
'mainstream' and 'extremist' Muslims interpret the Koran and hadith
differently
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They don't.

They can't.

It's toxic, murderous bloody mayhem.  There is no 'moderate' Islam, only backsliding Islam.


Spoken like a true bigot.  Well done, you've just won the argument for me with your closed-minded. Islamophobic bullshit.   Roll Eyes



You won't get off that easily, Brian, just virtue-signalling as ever.

You maintain very stridently that there is a difference between mainstram and extreme Muslims. Well, explain then how they differ in their interpretation of the Koranic texts and the deeds of Mohammed.  YOU want to draw a distinction bertween their religious views, not me. Explain then HOW and WHERE these two supposed camps of Muslims draw the interpretive line of their texts.

You can call a friend, if you like, because I am absolutely certain that you have no idea how to answer the question (other than avoiding it and talking about Christians). That's why you always resort to virtue-signalling and bigotry-peddling every time you are asked a concrete question to support your fatuous fantasies.


They differ in their views and acts, Frank.  Just as good and bad Christians differ.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Explain how, you dishonest, know-nothing apologist.

You have to explain your position at SOME point.  You can't hide behind preening and virtue signalling forever. You are trying, of course, you are trying desperately. 

You do need to explain yourself and the basis for your position. You just can't do it.

We all know it, you more than the rest of us. You are empty.


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Reply #156 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:31pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:02pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 6:50pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 5:44pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 11:34pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
Explain how
'mainstream' and 'extremist' Muslims interpret the Koran and hadith
differently
.


They don't.

They can't.

It's toxic, murderous bloody mayhem.  There is no 'moderate' Islam, only backsliding Islam.


Spoken like a true bigot.  Well done, you've just won the argument for me with your closed-minded. Islamophobic bullshit.   Roll Eyes



You won't get off that easily, Brian, just virtue-signalling as ever.

You maintain very stridently that there is a difference between mainstram and extreme Muslims. Well, explain then how they differ in their interpretation of the Koranic texts and the deeds of Mohammed.  YOU want to draw a distinction bertween their religious views, not me. Explain then HOW and WHERE these two supposed camps of Muslims draw the interpretive line of their texts.

You can call a friend, if you like, because I am absolutely certain that you have no idea how to answer the question (other than avoiding it and talking about Christians). That's why you always resort to virtue-signalling and bigotry-peddling every time you are asked a concrete question to support your fatuous fantasies.


They differ in their views and acts, Frank.  Just as good and bad Christians differ.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Explain how, you dishonest, no-nothing apologist.


Do they kill gay people?  YES/NO

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You have to explain your position at SOME point.  You can't hide behind preening and virtue signalling forever. You are trying, of course, you are trying desperately. 

You do need to explain yourself and the basis for your position. You just can't do it.

We all know it, you more than the rest of us. You are empty.


*YAWN*, you're boring in your bigotry against Muslims, Frank, dead boring.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #157 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:38pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:31pm:
*YAWN*, you're boring in your bigotry against Muslims, Frank, dead boring.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You 'inspired' the spineless apologist thread a few years ago.  Nothing has changed. You are still the queen of squishy, unprincipled bend-over apoligism for Islam.


Sad and disgusting for a grown man - if that's what you are.








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Reply #158 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:46pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:31pm:
*YAWN*, you're boring in your bigotry against Muslims, Frank, dead boring.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You 'inspired' the spineless apologist thread a few years ago.  Nothing has changed. You are still the queen of squishy, unprincipled bend-over apoligism for Islam.


Sad and disgusting for a grown man - if that's what you are.


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Such childishness, Frank.   Such schoolyard ad homimum debate.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #159 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:54pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:09pm:
Hi Ian - what about burning mosques? Does that matter? Would you mind clarifying when you advocated giving the mosque a "warm" welcome (your inverted commas), were you referring to burning it down? If it was a simple misinterpretation on my part, no worries, just correct the record for us, thanks.

How many Mosques have been burnt down in Australia? Zero i believe. non issue. next.
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Reply #160 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:55pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:35pm:


No, I was always comparing the moral issue, not a numerical one.   You're erecting a strawman argument 'cause you know I am right.  Morally, the Christian Church is reprehensible.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
I see. so deaths dont count, good one. however, if numbers are meaningless then why did you state this

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 8:28pm:


In India, Christian extremists are attacking and killing Hindus all the time, Moses.



One death, many deaths, no difference to you eh Brian. see how stupid you look now?
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Reply #161 - Jun 21st, 2016 at 8:30am
 
ian wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:09pm:
Hi Ian - what about burning mosques? Does that matter? Would you mind clarifying when you advocated giving the mosque a "warm" welcome (your inverted commas), were you referring to burning it down? If it was a simple misinterpretation on my part, no worries, just correct the record for us, thanks.

How many Mosques have been burnt down in Australia? Zero i believe. non issue. next.


Well, you and Sprint are only in the planning stage at the moment.

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Reply #162 - Jun 21st, 2016 at 11:43am
 
ian wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:09pm:
Hi Ian - what about burning mosques? Does that matter? Would you mind clarifying when you advocated giving the mosque a "warm" welcome (your inverted commas), were you referring to burning it down? If it was a simple misinterpretation on my part, no worries, just correct the record for us, thanks.

How many Mosques have been burnt down in Australia? Zero i believe. non issue. next.


You're not denying it. So Ian, correct me if I'm wrong, you are saying its ok to advocate acts of arson directed against a particular faith - because no such acts have ever been carried out yet?

And by the way you are wrong - the Kuraby mosque in QLD was burnt to the ground right after 9/11. Also the Toowoomba mosque was attacked twice by arsonists in the space of 4 months last year - the second time it was almost completely destroyed. There have been numerous other incidents of firebombing and vandalism.

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Reply #163 - Jun 21st, 2016 at 11:54am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21st, 2016 at 11:43am:
ian wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:09pm:
Hi Ian - what about burning mosques? Does that matter? Would you mind clarifying when you advocated giving the mosque a "warm" welcome (your inverted commas), were you referring to burning it down? If it was a simple misinterpretation on my part, no worries, just correct the record for us, thanks.

How many Mosques have been burnt down in Australia? Zero i believe. non issue. next.


You're not denying it. So Ian, correct me if I'm wrong, you are saying its ok to advocate acts of arson directed against a particular faith - because no such acts have ever been carried out yet?

And by the way you are wrong - the Kuraby mosque in QLD was burnt to the ground right after 9/11. Also the Toowoomba mosque was attacked twice by arsonists in the space of 4 months last year - the second time it was almost completely destroyed. There have been numerous other incidents of firebombing and vandalism.



A Mosque in Geelong was burnt down last month, wasn't it?

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Reply #164 - Jun 21st, 2016 at 11:56am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21st, 2016 at 11:43am:
ian wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:09pm:
Hi Ian - what about burning mosques? Does that matter? Would you mind clarifying when you advocated giving the mosque a "warm" welcome (your inverted commas), were you referring to burning it down? If it was a simple misinterpretation on my part, no worries, just correct the record for us, thanks.

How many Mosques have been burnt down in Australia? Zero i believe. non issue. next.


You're not denying it. So Ian, correct me if I'm wrong, you are saying its ok to advocate acts of arson directed against a particular faith - because no such acts have ever been carried out yet?

And by the way you are wrong - the Kuraby mosque in QLD was burnt to the ground right after 9/11. Also the Toowoomba mosque was attacked twice by arsonists in the space of 4 months last year - the second time it was almost completely destroyed. There have been numerous other incidents of firebombing and vandalism.



Wasn't a Lakemba Islamic centre destroyed by fire a couple of months ago?

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