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Reply #75 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:38pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:32pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:26pm:
Clearly the root cause is his belief in the teachings.


That's merely an assumption on your behalf.


A much more logical assumption, in this case, than Bernadi. 

But by all means, why don't you tell me it's Ian again. Or perhaps Mr Hammer?  Or perhaps Christianity? I'm sure it must have been Christianity. The maniac swore allegiance to IS because of the Christian beliefs of Bernadi. That's very rational.  Must be it.
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Reply #76 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am:
____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am:
Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend.


Yes, absolutely.

Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer.

The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community.


The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights.


The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist.

He was a deranged homophobe.

He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings...  radical Islamic teaching Gregg.
Denial ain't just a river apparently, but flows from you.
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Re: Local Political Homophobia Inciting Mass Murder?
Reply #77 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:42pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:32pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:26pm:
Clearly the root cause is his belief in the teachings.


That's merely an assumption on your behalf.


Oh no Gregg you made the biggest assumption here, one that goes against all logic and facts.
The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist.

What a Whopper. Cheesy

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Reply #78 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:43pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:32pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:26pm:
Clearly the root cause is his belief in the teachings.


That's merely an assumption on your behalf.


Oh no Gregg you made the biggest assumption here, one that goes against all logic and facts.
The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist.

What a Whopper. Cheesy



Apologist.
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Re: Local Political Homophobia Inciting Mass Murder?
Reply #79 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:44pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am:
____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am:
Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend.


Yes, absolutely.

Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer.

The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community.


The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights.


The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist.

He was a deranged homophobe.

He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings... 


Prove it.

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Re: Local Political Homophobia Inciting Mass Murder?
Reply #80 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:45pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am:
____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am:
Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend.


Yes, absolutely.

Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer.

The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community.


The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights.


The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist.

He was a deranged homophobe.

He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings... 


Prove it.



his allegience to IS.
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Re: Local Political Homophobia Inciting Mass Murder?
Reply #81 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm
 
IS kill homosexuals...  they even throw them from the tops of apartment buildings they hate homosexuality and homosexuals.

He stated he was a supporter of IS.
He therefore is a radical Islamist fundamentalist who Has been taught to hate homosexuals.
People who know him have stated he was violent and hated homosexuals.
What rock have you been under all day Gregg?
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Re: Local Political Homophobia Inciting Mass Murder?
Reply #82 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am:
____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am:
Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend.


Yes, absolutely.

Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer.

The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community.


The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights.


The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist.

He was a deranged homophobe.

He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings... 


Prove it.



his allegience to IS.


Lol   Grin

That's not proof.

Try again.

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Re: Local Political Homophobia Inciting Mass Murder?
Reply #83 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:51pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm:
IS kill homosexuals... 


Bananas are yellow.

Therefore, everything yellow is a banana.

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Re: Local Political Homophobia Inciting Mass Murder?
Reply #84 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am:
____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am:
Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend.


Yes, absolutely.

Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer.

The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community.


The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights.


The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist.

He was a deranged homophobe.

He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings... 


Prove it.



his allegience to IS.


Lol   Grin

That's not proof.

Try again.


you think he's a christian who aligns with IS? Perhaps he's a Jew?
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Re: Local Political Homophobia Inciting Mass Murder?
Reply #85 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:51pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm:
IS kill homosexuals... 


Bananas are yellow.

Therefore, everything yellow is a banana.



This is not a correlation does not equate causation scenario. The reality is that he calls up, pledges allegience to IS, and then goes ahead and kills 50 people and injures another 50 or so. He wasn't doing it because bananas are yellow.  It is quite clear why he did it.
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Re: Local Political Homophobia Inciting Mass Murder?
Reply #86 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:55pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am:
____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am:
Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend.


Yes, absolutely.

Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer.

The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community.


The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights.


The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist.

He was a deranged homophobe.

He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings... 


Prove it.



his allegience to IS.


Lol   Grin

That's not proof.

Try again.


you think he's a christian who aligns with IS? Perhaps he's a Jew?


I think he could have been infected with the disease of homophobia before Islam ever got to him.

Your homework: prove me wrong.

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Re: Local Political Homophobia Inciting Mass Murder?
Reply #87 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:56pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:54pm:
  It is quite clear why he did it.


Indeed.

He was an insane homophobe.

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Re: Local Political Homophobia Inciting Mass Murder?
Reply #88 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:55pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am:
____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am:
Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend.


Yes, absolutely.

Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer.

The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community.


The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights.


The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist.

He was a deranged homophobe.

He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings... 


Prove it.



his allegience to IS.


Lol   Grin

That's not proof.

Try again.


you think he's a christian who aligns with IS? Perhaps he's a Jew?


I think he could have been infected with the disease of homophobia before Islam ever got to him.

Your homework: prove me wrong.


I think you're trying to come up with excuses. Tsk tsk.

I'll go with the logical choice here. You go with the 'It's anything but' choice.  This is the same argument as christians use to prove god. Absence of prove isn't prove. What we know is he swore allegiance to ISIS. He is a muslim who subscribes to the ISIS view of Islam and the world. 

But you go ahead and try and solve the issues by roundabout way, and ending up with your head chopped off. I'll go the direct way.
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Re: Local Political Homophobia Inciting Mass Murder?
Reply #89 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:56pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:54pm:
  It is quite clear why he did it.


Indeed.

He was an insane homophobe.


Yes, because he was a IS affiliate who interpreted the ideas of Islam that made him hate homosexuals.
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