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stunspore Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5097 Gender:	Re: union lacky sacks the CFA board Reply #15 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 1:36am I don't know the details either. But what's certain is that people are turning this into a political game over people's livelihoods.
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Reply #16 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 1:44am

What possible impact could the reality that has persisted for so long, that there are paid firefighters who are professional and do it for a living, and that there are volunteers - be changed by some pay deal for those paid?

HOW does that impact on the work of the unpaid volunteers? HOW does this equate in any way to Union control of operational matters? How does a pay deal and a conditions deal and an OH & S deal adversely affect volunteers, when it gives them more solid guarantees of safety etc?

Because they might have to accept orders from qualified and trained professionals?

What a hard life.......

So the Army Reserve, committed to a major conflict, should NOT accept control by trained and experienced professionals? Jesus God... think of the casualty rate..... anyone remember Kokoda and the two Militia battalions committed to its first defence?

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28520 Gender:	Re: union lacky sacks the CFA board Reply #17 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 6:29am stunspore wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 1:36am: I don't know the details either. But what's certain is that people are turning this into a political game over people's livelihoods. The only ones doing that are the Fire Fighter's Union and Labor. The CFA was going just fine until now.
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Reply #18 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 8:03am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 10:44pm:

I love it when the 'righties' extend their virulent hatred of Unions to the service Unions that preserve and protect their property.....

Next let's get the Nurse's Unions since they currently hold so much power, with 12% of the Australian economy dependent on health provision... let's neuter the Police Association and prevent them screeching about 'softcock' judges etc..... let's cop the Ambos and make an example of their Union since they are just a bunch of layabouts anyway...

One day you low-class peasants in reality will understand that the ONLY reason you get the education and opportunities and protections in work you do is because men brave and true stood up for a fair shake in the profits of industry and a fair go for all and not just the 'born to prosper' lot .... those men were called 'Unions'.

Hear, hear......

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Reply #19 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 8:10am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 6:29am:

stunspore wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 1:36am:

I don't know the details either.

But what's certain is that people are turning this into a political game over people's livelihoods.

The only ones doing that are the Fire Fighter's Union and Labor. The CFA was going just fine until now.

WRONG!!
It's clowns like you.....

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Reply #20 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 8:24am

Lobo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 8:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 6:29am:

stunspore wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 1:36am:

I don't know the details either.

But what's certain is that people are turning this into a political game over people's livelihoods.

The only ones doing that are the Fire Fighter's Union and Labor. The CFA was going just fine until now.

WRONG!!
It's clowns like you.....

Why is Andrews so intent on having VOLUNTEERS join a Union?

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Reply #21 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 9:02am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 6:29am:

stunspore wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 1:36am:

I don't know the details either.

But what's certain is that people are turning this into a political game over people's livelihoods.

The only ones doing that are the Fire Fighter's Union and Labor. The CFA was going just fine until now.

Actually when politicians take sides publicly then it becomes political. You can't deny the libs have taken a side to this. The firefighters' union haven't gone political because they certainly are not a political party. They might (like all entities, even businesses) have a side they prefer but their primary focus isn't political.

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Reply #22 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 9:03am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

Lobo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 8:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 6:29am:

stunspore wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 1:36am:

I don't know the details either.

But what's certain is that people are turning this into a political game over people's livelihoods.

The only ones doing that are the Fire Fighter's Union and Labor. The CFA was going just fine until now.

WRONG!!
It's clowns like you.....

Why is Andrews so intent on having VOLUNTEERS join a Union?

Evidence? Wish the non-Victorians will get their facts right...I mean I don't comment on Sydney stuff if I don't have the facts for it.

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Reply #23 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 9:05am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

Lobo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 8:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 6:29am:

stunspore wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 1:36am:

I don't know the details either.

But what's certain is that people are turning this into a political game over people's livelihoods.

The only ones doing that are the Fire Fighter's Union and Labor. The CFA was going just fine until now.

WRONG!!
It's clowns like you.....

Why is Andrews so intent on having VOLUNTEERS join a Union?

This thread is hurting... Look at the Labor/union shyte like the pretend soldier deleting threads to cover this up

50000 VOLUNTEERS ARE PISSED OFF Angry

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: union lacky sacks the CFA board Reply #24 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 9:31am Labor sees the volunteer work force as cannon fodder for the unions and a source of funds. Otherwise it hates volunteers. They are counter-revolutionaries. Once they start this it will be the death of volunteering.
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stunspore Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5097 Gender:	Re: union lacky sacks the CFA board Reply #25 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 10:02am So in other words, these non-Vic libs have no clue (or perhaps no clue?) about the actual CFA-UFU dispute? I mean, I placed a link before - do read before making a wrong comment, vs the current ignorant comments being made?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: union lacky sacks the CFA board Reply #26 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 10:10am stunspore wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 9:41pm: The fair work people did approve this agreement - the independent people. is that the same people that approved the coles agreement ?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20221 Gender:	Re: union lacky sacks the CFA board Reply #27 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 10:15am I am a Volunteer Fire Fighter, just not in Victoria. I am just wary of any flow on effects of the "agreement". There appears to be a UFU led attack to take control of volunteers. Glad for all those that think that it is a win/win.
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Reply #28 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 10:17am

stunspore wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 9:02am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 6:29am:

stunspore wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 1:36am:

I don't know the details either.

But what's certain is that people are turning this into a political game over people's livelihoods.

The only ones doing that are the Fire Fighter's Union and Labor. The CFA was going just fine until now.

Actually when politicians take sides publicly then it becomes political. You can't deny the libs have taken a side to this. The firefighters' union haven't gone political because they certainly are not a political party. They might (like all entities, even businesses) have a side they prefer but their primary focus isn't political.

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Re: union lacky sacks the CFA board
Reply #29 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 10:29am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 10:17am:

stunspore wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 9:02am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 6:29am:

stunspore wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 1:36am:

I don't know the details either.

But what's certain is that people are turning this into a political game over people's livelihoods.

The only ones doing that are the Fire Fighter's Union and Labor. The CFA was going just fine until now.

Actually when politicians take sides publicly then it becomes political. You can't deny the libs have taken a side to this. The firefighters' union haven't gone political because they certainly are not a political party. They might (like all entities, even businesses) have a side they prefer but their primary focus isn't political.

http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/448/4489038/2866426-0647010074-d6c4...

makes you wonder what he thinks the Premier of the State is if not a politician..?? Roll Eyes

oh well Crikey know more than anyone else.... it seems!

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