At the Farmer's Market at Hornsby today a psychopath went crazy with a knife at the Shopping Centre. *** Correction it was a Female Officer and a Male Officer who were first on scene and footage on Channel 9 News showed the incident when the shooting occurred.

The man ran at a Police Woman and the Officer fired at point blank range about four metres from her, she fired twice and totally missed the knife weilder but she did manage to shoot three shoppers in the background.

As a former Police Officer and in the Air Force a Weapons Training Instructor in the Airfield Defence mustering, I found it unbelievable that the Officer- number one did not take into account the extreme risk in firing in a crowded area and secondly that when she did fire that she missed from point blank range.

I am aware that Police usually only have to go to the firing range once a year to retain accreditation in using as firearm.

Thus demonstrates how pathetic the ongoing firearms training is in the Police Force.

It is my opinion that officers should attend continuation training at least once every three months. Once  a year doesn't cut it.

Today's terrible outcome demonstrates how inadequate the process is.

Cue the Benny Hill music.........

I just wish they would get some new training videos.
The Keystone Cop videos are getting old.

  It seems strange that the police officers decided to use firearms instead of tasers.   Possibly the situation got out of hand quickly and she instinctively reached for her firearm as the offender moved very rapidly towards her, not thinking about the backstop for her rounds.  However I won't try to second guess her actions.

ian wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:41pm:


I'll bet she did.  A 9mm does not penetrate much, and certainly does not travel on in any lethal way the sort of distance as happened in this case.

red baron wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:15pm:


I think they should go once a month

she missed(twice) at what's considered point blank range

It appears to have been an attempted islamic terrorist attack.

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http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/police-shoot-and-kill-knifeman-at-westfield-hornsby/news-story/09e98074a9f0534020686a76ebee783c

mothra wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:46pm:

Stay out of things you dont understand. Go and do your ironing or something.

ian wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:



Get bent. Again.

You are making assumptions and going poo about women. Im perfectly well equipped to deal with you.

Never really known a woman, ha e you Ian ? Not like a friend.

She missed with nine mil. What chance of a hit with a taser? Although she may have then fired at the centre of the seen mass.

Webtoad wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:50pm:


No, it doesn't actually.

No amount of wishful thinking from you can change the facts.

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:



slow moving? they'd have that much adrenaline pumping they'd be lucky to hit a barn door, let alone a leg

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:23pm:



sshhhh ... don't tell Ian, he'll be shattered to know a guy missed too!

John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:26pm:


Indeed, he will.

Seems he spoke too soon.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:27pm:


They keep re-doing the scene until he hits, Bobby.

Where are the heroes these days.
A couple of whacks in the head with a hefty cafe chair would have done the trick.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
The perp copped one shot in the abdomen apparently, that would have been the shot from the male officer. Probably only fired one shot expecting the female officer who the perp was lunging at would do her job. More than likely a younger officer who still beleives all that equal stuff from the academy, he wont make that mistake again, females are not be relied on in these circumstances.

The perp was obviously mentally ill. He had a rather large carving knife heading for a group of civvies. The cops popped off 2 shots at him and hit a bystander. He then came back towards the cops and they shot him in the stomach. It was an absolute circus. A better result should have been accomplished . The cops obviously s hit their pants.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:58pm:


You don't miss a thing.

Assistant Commissioner Clifford said:"I understand he was reported missing from a psychiatric centre near here yesterday and police were making efforts to try and locate him."

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 8:03pm:

Mentally ill and being Islamic aren't mutually exclusive, evidence suggests there is a high correlation.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

Could have been just after prayer time. Were they washed?

Aussie, wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 8:07pm:
No. He was out there tripping through the milky way. I've known enough nutty people to work that poor bugger out.

Black Orchid wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 8:09pm:


Yeas.  The Hospital lost one.....and that he was missing was only reported to the Cops yesterday.....presumably by the Hospital.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

read the initial report. She will be charged, he wont.

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What with?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 8:36pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 8:57pm:



No....but I've seen pigs move much much faster that this turtle paced victim.  And they are a tad smaller than your average human being and much lower to the ground.

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:04pm:


Oh!

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 8:34pm:
In due course we will find out, there is undoubtedly negligence here.

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:


I tend to get tunnel vision on the threat when adrenaline kicks in. Time can slow, only one focus. I suppose that people can also panic and lose it but then they shouldn't be carrying firearms. Fight or flight.

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:41pm:


That is my response too.  Time slows down, and makes it much easier to respond.  (Not that I've ever been confronted with a zombie going at turtle pace maybe armed with a knife when I shot at him.)

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Do tell, what situation were you in where your 'response' was the same?

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:


Time slows down? Neat little manipulation of space time. Perhaps you ate so much vindaloo your arse exploded with such force you traveled fast enough to actually time travel.   Yuk.

GordyL wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:47pm:


Incorrigible and recalcitrant. 

GordyL wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:51pm:

So many armchair experts..... and almost every one without a clue. 

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:38pm:



more fans of 'the matrix' 

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:41pm:


i clicked on your link until AFTER I made that comment

Aussie, wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:57pm:

Aussie, wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 11:04pm:


If his missus was a nurse there'd be no probs. I have two in the house and they are trained to nonchalantly clean shyte up, dunno how they do it withought a thought. I bet if the passenger was a nurse she would have cleaned her own shyte up.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 7:18am:


Why the policewoman and not the policeman, Booby?

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:20am:


Three elderly ladies in hospital.

Good job?

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:37am:


And the policeman?

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:47am:


So, they've confirmed that it's her who buggered it up?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:48am:


Seems like it. It's a broader issue of crap police training. A mate of mine was a NSW Police weapons trainer and he always said the average GD cop is clueless and gets about 10% of the training required.

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:56am:


She appears to have been wearing sunglasses the whole time.

Not sure how you've determined that her eyes were closed.

Picture of Police Woman

Certainly a botched effort by all involved, though.

Amazing how calm most of the shoppers seemed to be.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 9:33am:


Not calm.  Unaware.

I've given you the facts.

You're welcome.

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 10:01am:


No, you made an assumption.

There is no evidence to show that the woman closed her eyes.

Not a single piece.

In fact, her eyes are covered with dark glasses.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 10:38am:


Fact.  It's called the "flinch reflex" and it's not unusual, or difficult to identify.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 10:48am:


Impossible if you dont know what youre looking for, easy if you do.

Trust me, I know what Im doing.

You dont need to see her eyes.

Just listen to the expert.  They have training and knowledge that you dont.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:05am:



She established it herself by all her apologizing

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:11am:


I don't know the answer at all.

Do you?

If so, please share.

Why all this secret squirrel nonsense?

Have they established that the woman caused all of the injuries yet?

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:08am:


No.

Three people were shot.

Has it been established that the policewoman shot all three women?

I've seen no reports confirming that she is responsible for all injuries.

If you have, all I'm asking for is a link.

I'm not doubting you, I just can't find the link that establishes that fact.

Why is it so hard to get a little help in this forum? Seriously   

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:23am:


No, it's not.

Nowhere in that video does it show her injuring three women.

I've watched the video at least a half a dozen times.

If you believe I'm wrong, just tell me at what point in the video she hits each woman, and where they are located on the screen.