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Reply #75 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 11:04pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:59pm:

Aussie, wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:57pm:

Aussie, wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:41pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

When I am spearing and some big fish turn up, the hardest thing to do is avoid the adrenaline rush, or at least delay it until after I have taken the shot. Once it kicks in it is very hard to shoot straight. Target practice can't fix that. I think they need something like a tennis ball machine, except it lobs basketballs at your head, so you need to get three shots into it first to soften it up.

I tend to get tunnel vision on the threat when adrenaline kicks in. Time can slow, only one focus. I suppose that people can also panic and lose it but then they shouldn't be carrying firearms.

That is my response too.

Do tell, what situation were you in where your 'response' was the same?

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Reply #76 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 11:21pm

Aussie, wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 11:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:59pm:

Aussie, wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:57pm:

Aussie, wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:41pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

When I am spearing and some big fish turn up, the hardest thing to do is avoid the adrenaline rush, or at least delay it until after I have taken the shot. Once it kicks in it is very hard to shoot straight. Target practice can't fix that. I think they need something like a tennis ball machine, except it lobs basketballs at your head, so you need to get three shots into it first to soften it up.

I tend to get tunnel vision on the threat when adrenaline kicks in. Time can slow, only one focus. I suppose that people can also panic and lose it but then they shouldn't be carrying firearms.

That is my response too.

Do tell, what situation were you in where your 'response' was the same?

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Did you see the poo emerging slowly onto your cab seat and reached for the Chux super wipe yelling "nooooooooo"

If his missus was a nurse there'd be no probs. I have two in the house and they are trained to nonchalantly clean shyte up, dunno how they do it withought a thought. I bet if the passenger was a nurse she would have cleaned her own shyte up.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 151071 Gender:	Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders Reply #78 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:18am Bobby. wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 7:18am: Is the policewoman being charged with GBH? Why the policewoman and not the policeman, Booby?
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Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders
Reply #79 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:20am

Webtoad wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

In a life or death situation (as it is if someone is lunging towards you with a knife) a gun is more appropriate to protect yourself, regardless of what is behind the target.

A taser is a one shot weapon and useless against a moving target as was the case here.

The police did a good job in stopping the threat.

Of course they did.

And that is why they are being supported by their superiors.

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Reply #80 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:35am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:20am:

Webtoad wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

In a life or death situation (as it is if someone is lunging towards you with a knife) a gun is more appropriate to protect yourself, regardless of what is behind the target.

A taser is a one shot weapon and useless against a moving target as was the case here.

The police did a good job in stopping the threat.

Of course they did.

Three elderly ladies in hospital.

Good job?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 151071 Gender:	Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders Reply #82 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:45am ... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:37am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 7:18am: Is the policewoman being charged with GBH? Doubt it. Pussy pass + blue privilege = no charge. Hell she'll probably get promoted for this - into a nice desk job where she can't hurt anybody. And the policeman?
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Reply #83 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:47am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:45am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:37am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 7:18am:

Is the policewoman being charged with GBH?

Doubt it. Pussy pass + blue privilege = no charge. Hell she'll probably get promoted for this - into a nice desk job where she can't hurt anybody.

And the policeman?

Reprimanded, for not handling the situation before his partner could bugger it up.

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Reply #84 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:48am

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:45am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:37am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 7:18am:

Is the policewoman being charged with GBH?

Doubt it. Pussy pass + blue privilege = no charge. Hell she'll probably get promoted for this - into a nice desk job where she can't hurt anybody.

And the policeman?

Reprimanded, for not handling the situation before his partner could bugger it up.

So, they've confirmed that it's her who buggered it up?

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Reply #85 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:45am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:37am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 7:18am:

Is the policewoman being charged with GBH?

Doubt it. Pussy pass + blue privilege = no charge. Hell she'll probably get promoted for this - into a nice desk job where she can't hurt anybody.

And the policeman?

Reprimanded, for not handling the situation before his partner could bugger it up.

So, they've confirmed that it's her who buggered it up?

Yeah, you can even watch it on video. She closed her eyes and shied away as she opened fire, and missed him from a coupla meters away.

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/hornsby-westfield-shooting-the-mome...

She knows she buggered up:

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In the footage, blood can be seen coming out the woman’s leg as the female officer rushes over.

“Oh sh*t, I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry,” she can be heard saying.

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Reply #86 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 9:00am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:45am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:37am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 7:18am:

Is the policewoman being charged with GBH?

Doubt it. Pussy pass + blue privilege = no charge. Hell she'll probably get promoted for this - into a nice desk job where she can't hurt anybody.

And the policeman?

Reprimanded, for not handling the situation before his partner could bugger it up.

So, they've confirmed that it's her who buggered it up?

Seems like it. It's a broader issue of crap police training. A mate of mine was a NSW Police weapons trainer and he always said the average GD cop is clueless and gets about 10% of the training required.

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Reply #88 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 9:33am

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:56am:

She closed her eyes and shied away as she opened fire, and missed him from a coupla meters away.

She appears to have been wearing sunglasses the whole time.

Not sure how you've determined that her eyes were closed.

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Certainly a botched effort by all involved, though.

Amazing how calm most of the shoppers seemed to be.

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Reply #89 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 9:39am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 9:27am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 8:56am:

She closed her eyes and shied away as she opened fire, and missed him from a coupla meters away.

I must be watching a different video.

At no point can I see her eyes, let alone distinguish if they are open or not.

But you can clearly see her shy away, in the reflexive movement which includes tightly closing ones eyes. It's an identifiable, involuntary response that You'll see it in novice fighters sparring for the first time, when people get startled by something out the corner of their eyes, and apparently when muslims come running at people with knives.

It's a losing battle trying to troll this one.

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