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Reply #60 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:48pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:41pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

When I am spearing and some big fish turn up, the hardest thing to do is avoid the adrenaline rush, or at least delay it until after I have taken the shot. Once it kicks in it is very hard to shoot straight. Target practice can't fix that. I think they need something like a tennis ball machine, except it lobs basketballs at your head, so you need to get three shots into it first to soften it up.

I tend to get tunnel vision on the threat when adrenaline kicks in. Time can slow, only one focus. I suppose that people can also panic and lose it but then they shouldn't be carrying firearms.

That is my response too.

Do tell, what situation were you in where your 'response' was the same?

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Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders
Reply #61 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:50pm

GordyL wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Whenever the police shoot and kill someone, people demand to know why they didn't aim for the legs instead. This is why.

If they can't hit what they are aiming at....at that range they ought have their Glocks taken off them. I can group pretty well at my age (21) using a very aged range .22 Smith & Wesson revolver at 25 yards. If they (aged 80) can't hit a shoulder, or a leg of a slow moving person at about at most 5 metres, they should not have a gun.

slow moving? they'd have that much adrenaline pumping they'd be lucky to hit a barn door, let alone a leg

Typo, Leb?

OK ..... I'll give you that one

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Reply #62 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:51pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:41pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

When I am spearing and some big fish turn up, the hardest thing to do is avoid the adrenaline rush, or at least delay it until after I have taken the shot. Once it kicks in it is very hard to shoot straight. Target practice can't fix that. I think they need something like a tennis ball machine, except it lobs basketballs at your head, so you need to get three shots into it first to soften it up.

I tend to get tunnel vision on the threat when adrenaline kicks in. Time can slow, only one focus. I suppose that people can also panic and lose it but then they shouldn't be carrying firearms.

That is my response too. Time slows down, and makes it much easier to respond. (Not that I've ever been confronted with a zombie going at turtle pace maybe armed with a knife when I shot at him.)

Time slows down? Neat little manipulation of space time. Perhaps you ate so much vindaloo your arse exploded with such force you traveled fast enough to actually time travel. Yuk.

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Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders
Reply #63 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:54pm

GordyL wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:41pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

When I am spearing and some big fish turn up, the hardest thing to do is avoid the adrenaline rush, or at least delay it until after I have taken the shot. Once it kicks in it is very hard to shoot straight. Target practice can't fix that. I think they need something like a tennis ball machine, except it lobs basketballs at your head, so you need to get three shots into it first to soften it up.

I tend to get tunnel vision on the threat when adrenaline kicks in. Time can slow, only one focus. I suppose that people can also panic and lose it but then they shouldn't be carrying firearms.

That is my response too. Time slows down, and makes it much easier to respond. (Not that I've ever been confronted with a zombie going at turtle pace maybe armed with a knife when I shot at him.)

Time slows down? Neat little manipulation of space time. Perhaps you ate so much vindaloo your arse exploded with such force you traveled fast enough to actually time travel. Yuk.

Keep this up and you will owe me a new keyboard.

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Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders
Reply #64 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:58pm

GordyL wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Whenever the police shoot and kill someone, people demand to know why they didn't aim for the legs instead. This is why.

If they can't hit what they are aiming at....at that range they ought have their Glocks taken off them. I can group pretty well at my age (21) using a very aged range .22 Smith & Wesson revolver at 25 yards. If they (aged 80) can't hit a shoulder, or a leg of a slow moving person at about at most 5 metres, they should not have a gun.

slow moving? they'd have that much adrenaline pumping they'd be lucky to hit a barn door, let alone a leg

Typo, Leb?

Incorrigible and recalcitrant. Grin

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Hoss Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 761 talbot victoria Gender:	Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders Reply #65 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:22pm HI ALL HI ALL Handguns are high training with a lot of practice most police do not get that.
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Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders
Reply #67 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:33pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

it certainly wasn't a good day for those cops. .... bloody stupid to be shooting with innocent people standing behind him, even if they could shoot and actually managed to hit him, it's to easy for the bullets to go straight through at that range. Where were their tasers and pepper sprays?

Bullets would not go through someone and hit anyone behind them at high velocity. You need a high powered handgun to do any real damage, and the police aren't armed with that kind of weaponry for their duties.

I agree, the taser should have been used. But it sounds like the police reacted suddenly, and did not have time to take aim properly.

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Reply #69 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:38pm

GordyL wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:41pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

When I am spearing and some big fish turn up, the hardest thing to do is avoid the adrenaline rush, or at least delay it until after I have taken the shot. Once it kicks in it is very hard to shoot straight. Target practice can't fix that. I think they need something like a tennis ball machine, except it lobs basketballs at your head, so you need to get three shots into it first to soften it up.

I tend to get tunnel vision on the threat when adrenaline kicks in. Time can slow, only one focus. I suppose that people can also panic and lose it but then they shouldn't be carrying firearms.

That is my response too. Time slows down, and makes it much easier to respond. (Not that I've ever been confronted with a zombie going at turtle pace maybe armed with a knife when I shot at him.)

Time slows down? Neat little manipulation of space time. Perhaps you ate so much vindaloo your arse exploded with such force you traveled fast enough to actually time travel. Yuk.

Pedant, should I have said time seems to slow down. Anyway Quote:

http://www.livescience.com/2117-time-slow-emergencies.html

I don't think I'm the only one.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders Reply #70 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:39pm Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:38pm: I don't think I'm the only one. more fans of 'the matrix'
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17241 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders Reply #71 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:41pm John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:39pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:38pm: I don't think I'm the only one. more fans of 'the matrix'
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders Reply #72 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:44pm Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:41pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:39pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:38pm: I don't think I'm the only one. more fans of 'the matrix' i clicked on your link until AFTER I made that comment
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Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders
Reply #73 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:57pm

Aussie, wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:41pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

When I am spearing and some big fish turn up, the hardest thing to do is avoid the adrenaline rush, or at least delay it until after I have taken the shot. Once it kicks in it is very hard to shoot straight. Target practice can't fix that. I think they need something like a tennis ball machine, except it lobs basketballs at your head, so you need to get three shots into it first to soften it up.

I tend to get tunnel vision on the threat when adrenaline kicks in. Time can slow, only one focus. I suppose that people can also panic and lose it but then they shouldn't be carrying firearms.

That is my response too.

Do tell, what situation were you in where your 'response' was the same?

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Reply #74 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:59pm

Aussie, wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:57pm:

Aussie, wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:41pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

When I am spearing and some big fish turn up, the hardest thing to do is avoid the adrenaline rush, or at least delay it until after I have taken the shot. Once it kicks in it is very hard to shoot straight. Target practice can't fix that. I think they need something like a tennis ball machine, except it lobs basketballs at your head, so you need to get three shots into it first to soften it up.

I tend to get tunnel vision on the threat when adrenaline kicks in. Time can slow, only one focus. I suppose that people can also panic and lose it but then they shouldn't be carrying firearms.

That is my response too.

Do tell, what situation were you in where your 'response' was the same?

Bump for Aussie.

Did you see the poo emerging slowly onto your cab seat and reached for the Chux super wipe yelling "nooooooooo"

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