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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders Reply #105 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:23am Yes you do. She buggered up and shot 2 people - neither of them the knife wielding nutter. Its all there on freely available video, which you claim to have watched. Are you one of those guys who goes to the movies and asks "whats happening" every few minutes?
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Reply #106 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:25am

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:05am:

Have they established that the woman caused all of the injuries yet?

She established it herself by all her apologizing

No.

Three people were shot.

Has it been established that the policewoman shot all three women?

I've seen no reports confirming that she is responsible for all injuries.

If you have, all I'm asking for is a link.

I'm not doubting you, I just can't find the link that establishes that fact.

Why is it so hard to get a little help in this forum? Seriously Undecided

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GordyL Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4365 Hate Town Gender:	Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders Reply #107 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:26am So who thinks men and women have different situational awareness and stress responses? If different is it nature or nurture?
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Reply #108 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:27am

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:23am:

Its all there on freely available video

No, it's not.

Nowhere in that video does it show her injuring three women.

I've watched the video at least a half a dozen times.

If you believe I'm wrong, just tell me at what point in the video she hits each woman, and where they are located on the screen.

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Reply #109 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:30am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:27am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:23am:

Its all there on freely available video

No, it's not.

Nowhere in that video does it show her injuring three women.

I've watched the video at least a half a dozen times.

If you believe I'm wrong, just tell me at what point in the video she hits each woman, and where they are located on the screen.

Youre right. That video only clearly establishes that she shot twoinnocent bystanders. 2 might be an acceptable price for equality, but 3 is too much.

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Reply #110 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:31am

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:27am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:23am:

Its all there on freely available video

No, it's not.

Nowhere in that video does it show her injuring three women.

I've watched the video at least a half a dozen times.

If you believe I'm wrong, just tell me at what point in the video she hits each woman, and where they are located on the screen.

Youre right. That video only clearly establishes that she shot twoinnocent bystanders. 2 might be an acceptable price for equality, but 3 is too much.

So, it has not been established that she caused all of the injuries.

We're getting somewhere, at last.

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Reply #111 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:31am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:27am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:23am:

Its all there on freely available video

No, it's not.

Nowhere in that video does it show her injuring three women.

I've watched the video at least a half a dozen times.

If you believe I'm wrong, just tell me at what point in the video she hits each woman, and where they are located on the screen.

Youre right. That video only clearly establishes that she shot twoinnocent bystanders. 2 might be an acceptable price for equality, but 3 is too much.

So, it has not been established that she caused all of the injuries.

We're getting somewhere, at last.

No of course she didnt - just the injuries to the innocent bystanders.

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Reply #112 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:35am

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:31am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:27am:

... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:23am:

Its all there on freely available video

No, it's not.

Nowhere in that video does it show her injuring three women.

I've watched the video at least a half a dozen times.

If you believe I'm wrong, just tell me at what point in the video she hits each woman, and where they are located on the screen.

Youre right. That video only clearly establishes that she shot twoinnocent bystanders. 2 might be an acceptable price for equality, but 3 is too much.

So, it has not been established that she caused all of the injuries.

We're getting somewhere, at last.

No of course she didnt - just the injuries to the innocent bystanders.

Are you suggesting that one of the women wasn't innocent?

Conspiracy theory now - really?

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders Reply #113 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:38am It was a false flag. Shes just a plant by evil patriarchal white males, to discredit the idea of having shielas playing cops and robbers.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 151020 Gender:	Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders Reply #114 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:40am ... wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:38am: It was a false flag. Shes just a plant by evil patriarchal white males, to discredit the idea of having shielas playing cops and robbers. Gotchya!
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders Reply #115 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 11:43am Plant or not, she still did it. But as we know, its never a womans fault - I blame the evil patriarchy.
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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6384 Australia Gender:	Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders Reply #116 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 1:10pm Pizz poor judgement to use their firearms in a shopping centre. The injured women were caught by the shrapnel from the rounds fired by the woman police officer some of which missed the guy with the knife. The male police officer fired one round which contacted the nutter with the knife in the gut.
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Reply #117 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 5:51pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 1:10pm:

Pizz poor judgement to use their firearms in a shopping centre. The injured women were caught by the shrapnel from the rounds fired by the woman police officer some of which missed the guy with the knife. The male police officer fired one round which contacted the nutter with the knife in the gut.

when we have never even been close to being in a situation like this... we can sure be judgmental...

this man was well known to the police....he had threatened suicide in the past so who knows what was going through his mind...either way...this person should not have been on the streets and the police should have been warned....being warned is forearmed I reckon..I prefer not to judge this as we have no idea what this young man was capable of doing....he was I should say is pretty sick.....once upon a time really mentally sick people were locked up... mainly for their own safety....now we find its cheaper to allow them certain freedom.........thats right we have the police to protect us dont we????....

and the moment they do they are dead.. they will never get it right..........

.we all know how we would deal with a situation like this dont we?????? Angry

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Reply #119 - Jun 10^th, 2016 at 6:13pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Whenever the police shoot and kill someone, people demand to know why they didn't aim for the legs instead. This is why.

If they can't hit what they are aiming at....at that range they ought have their Glocks taken off them. I can group pretty well at my age (21) using a very aged range .22 Smith & Wesson revolver at 25 yards. If they (aged 80) can't hit a shoulder, or a leg of a slow moving person at about at most 5 metres, they should not have a gun.

like using a cap gun ... smack all recoil ...

9 mm a tad different you'll find

just like previous Police issue 38 Smith & Wesson

Maybe a .22 cal would have been more effective and accurate.

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