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Reply #45 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:32pm
 
ian wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:51pm:
ian wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
ian wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 6:41pm:
She didnt miss, its clear that she didnt fire at centre mass as trained to do. Lost her nerve and shot him in the legs and hit bystanders. This is why females should not be in these sorts of roles, they can not be relied on. This could have been really ugly if someone elses life depended on her doing her job properly. She needs to resign or get a loss of confidence letter. Disgrace.


"Assistant Commissioner Clifford said he understood two officers, a male and a female, fired their weapons during the incident." Link

Thoughts, ian?
The perp copped one shot in the abdomen apparently, that would have been the shot from the male officer.


Based on what, exactly?

You didn't even know a male was involved ten minutes ago.

You seem to be making it up as you go, ian.


read the initial report.


Sure.

Link?

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Reply #46 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:34pm
 
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read the initial report. She will be charged, he wont.


What with?
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Reply #47 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:36pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:34pm:
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read the initial report. She will be charged, he wont.


What with?


Slow down, Aussie.

He's still working on his story.

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Reply #48 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:45pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:36pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:34pm:
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read the initial report. She will be charged, he wont.


What with?


Slow down, Aussie.

He's still working on his story.



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Reply #49 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:57pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:22pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Whenever the police shoot and kill someone, people demand to know why they didn't aim for the legs instead. This is why.


If they can't hit what they are aiming at....at that range they ought have their Glocks taken off them.  I can group pretty well at my age (21) using a very aged range .22 Smith & Wesson revolver at 25 yards.  If they (aged 80) can't hit a shoulder, or a leg of a slow moving person at about at most 5 metres, they should not have a gun.



slow moving? they'd have that much adrenaline pumping they'd be lucky to hit a barn door, let alone a leg


Ever gone pig shooting on foot in scrub? No not the blue ones! Roll Eyes
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Reply #50 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:03pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:57pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:22pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Whenever the police shoot and kill someone, people demand to know why they didn't aim for the legs instead. This is why.


If they can't hit what they are aiming at....at that range they ought have their Glocks taken off them.  I can group pretty well at my age (21) using a very aged range .22 Smith & Wesson revolver at 25 yards.  If they (aged 80) can't hit a shoulder, or a leg of a slow moving person at about at most 5 metres, they should not have a gun.



slow moving? they'd have that much adrenaline pumping they'd be lucky to hit a barn door, let alone a leg


Ever gone pig shooting on foot in scrub? No not the blue ones! Roll Eyes



No....but I've seen pigs move much much faster that this turtle paced victim.  And they are a tad smaller than your average human being and much lower to the ground.
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Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders
Reply #51 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:04pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:03pm:
Setanta wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:57pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:22pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Whenever the police shoot and kill someone, people demand to know why they didn't aim for the legs instead. This is why.


If they can't hit what they are aiming at....at that range they ought have their Glocks taken off them.  I can group pretty well at my age (21) using a very aged range .22 Smith & Wesson revolver at 25 yards.  If they (aged 80) can't hit a shoulder, or a leg of a slow moving person at about at most 5 metres, they should not have a gun.



slow moving? they'd have that much adrenaline pumping they'd be lucky to hit a barn door, let alone a leg


Ever gone pig shooting on foot in scrub? No not the blue ones! Roll Eyes



No....but I've seen pigs move much much faster that this turtle paced victim.


Yes, what I'm saying is there is not much excuse for missing no matter their adrenaline pumping. In fact it should have helped them focus.
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Reply #52 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:07pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:03pm:
Setanta wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:57pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:22pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Whenever the police shoot and kill someone, people demand to know why they didn't aim for the legs instead. This is why.


If they can't hit what they are aiming at....at that range they ought have their Glocks taken off them.  I can group pretty well at my age (21) using a very aged range .22 Smith & Wesson revolver at 25 yards.  If they (aged 80) can't hit a shoulder, or a leg of a slow moving person at about at most 5 metres, they should not have a gun.



slow moving? they'd have that much adrenaline pumping they'd be lucky to hit a barn door, let alone a leg


Ever gone pig shooting on foot in scrub? No not the blue ones! Roll Eyes



No....but I've seen pigs move much much faster that this turtle paced victim.


Yes, what I'm saying is there is not much excuse for missing no matter their adrenaline pumping. In fact it should have helped them focus.


Oh!
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Reply #53 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:28pm
 
When I am spearing and some big fish turn up, the hardest thing to do is avoid the adrenaline rush, or at least delay it until after I have taken the shot. Once it kicks in it is very hard to shoot straight. Target practice can't fix that. I think they need something like a tennis ball machine, except it lobs basketballs at your head, so you need to get three shots into it first to soften it up.
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Reply #54 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:32pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:34pm:
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read the initial report. She will be charged, he wont.


What with?
In due course we will find out, there is undoubtedly negligence here.
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Reply #55 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:38pm
 
ian wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:34pm:
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read the initial report. She will be charged, he wont.


What with?
In due course we will find out, there is undoubtedly negligence here.


Just negligence?
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Reply #56 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:28pm:
When I am spearing and some big fish turn up, the hardest thing to do is avoid the adrenaline rush, or at least delay it until after I have taken the shot. Once it kicks in it is very hard to shoot straight. Target practice can't fix that. I think they need something like a tennis ball machine, except it lobs basketballs at your head, so you need to get three shots into it first to soften it up.


I tend to get tunnel vision on the threat when adrenaline kicks in. Time can slow, only one focus. I suppose that people can also panic and lose it but then they shouldn't be carrying firearms. Fight or flight.

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Reply #57 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:44pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 8:57pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:22pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Whenever the police shoot and kill someone, people demand to know why they didn't aim for the legs instead. This is why.


If they can't hit what they are aiming at....at that range they ought have their Glocks taken off them.  I can group pretty well at my age (21) using a very aged range .22 Smith & Wesson revolver at 25 yards.  If they (aged 80) can't hit a shoulder, or a leg of a slow moving person at about at most 5 metres, they should not have a gun.



slow moving? they'd have that much adrenaline pumping they'd be lucky to hit a barn door, let alone a leg


Ever gone pig shooting on foot in scrub? No not the blue ones! Roll Eyes



nah ... never gone hunting.
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Reply #58 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:45pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:28pm:
When I am spearing and some big fish turn up, the hardest thing to do is avoid the adrenaline rush, or at least delay it until after I have taken the shot. Once it kicks in it is very hard to shoot straight. Target practice can't fix that. I think they need something like a tennis ball machine, except it lobs basketballs at your head, so you need to get three shots into it first to soften it up.


I tend to get tunnel vision on the threat when adrenaline kicks in. Time can slow, only one focus. I suppose that people can also panic and lose it but then they shouldn't be carrying firearms.


That is my response too.  Time slows down, and makes it much easier to respond.  (Not that I've ever been confronted with a zombie going at turtle pace maybe armed with a knife when I shot at him.)
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Re: Police shooting at Hornsby wounds bystanders
Reply #59 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:47pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:22pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Whenever the police shoot and kill someone, people demand to know why they didn't aim for the legs instead. This is why.


If they can't hit what they are aiming at....at that range they ought have their Glocks taken off them.  I can group pretty well at my age (21) using a very aged range .22 Smith & Wesson revolver at 25 yards.  If they (aged 80) can't hit a shoulder, or a leg of a slow moving person at about at most 5 metres, they should not have a gun.



slow moving? they'd have that much adrenaline pumping they'd be lucky to hit a barn door, let alone a leg


Typo, Leb?
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