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Reply #90 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 8:44am

Should the community pay for people who ought to have the brains to know they are putting themselves at such risk? Especially when they must have a Bob or two to own a beach front house.

I don't think so.

Emergency handouts, subsidies and services should be reserved for those who get into trouble through accident and misfortune, not for those who deliberately go courting obvious danger.

But then I'm a cold heartless bastard.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6125 Gender:	Re: Sydney mansions washed out in the oceans Reply #91 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:09am According to WIN news last night the Collaroy residents protested against councils attempts to build a sea wall a few years ago. reckoned it would spoil the beach front aspect or something. If this is the case these people have no one to blame but themselves for the damage to their homes.
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Reply #92 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:36am

Belgarion wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

According to WIN news last night the Collaroy residents protested against councils attempts to build a sea wall a few years ago. reckoned it would spoil the beach front aspect or something. If this is the case these people have no one to blame but themselves for the damage to their homes.

Yes that has been mentioned a few times.

They didnt want yobbos (Herb) walking along the boardwalk in front of their houses

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Sydney mansions washed out in the oceans Reply #93 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:42am Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:36am: Yes that has been mentioned a few times. They didnt want yobbos (Herb and GordyL ) walking along the boardwalk in front of their houses What if Yobbos Herb and GordyL were on a leash?
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14247 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Sydney mansions washed out in the oceans Reply #94 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:48am Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 7:52pm: No one is immune to the effects of climate change. Even the richies with all of their wealth cannot avoid it !! It is notable that just ONE of these houses carried solar panels Apparently climate change is a joke - until it affects "me"
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Reply #95 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:49am

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 8:44am:

Should the community pay for people who ought to have the brains to know they are putting themselves at such risk? Especially when they must have a Bob or two to own a beach front house.

I don't think so.

Emergency handouts, subsidies and services should be reserved for those who get into trouble through accident and misfortune, not for those who deliberately go courting obvious danger.

But then I'm a cold heartless bastard.

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Reply #96 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:18am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:48am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 7:52pm:

No one is immune to the effects of climate change. Even the richies with all of their wealth cannot avoid it !!

It is notable that just ONE of these houses carried solar panels
Apparently climate change is a joke - until it affects "me"

How are storms related to the climate change religion, did storms like this occur before the climate change religion?

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Reply #97 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 12:12pm

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 7:26am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 1:07am:

all those houses are unsaleable now are they ?

I bet the insurance companies will run away like rabbits.

I am thinking how much will my home insurance go up this year??????>. Sad

its us that always pay.

Its been going up and up for a while now, approximately $100 per annum every time renewal policies are sent. Reason I get told by them is because of all the claims being made, and I say back to them, why should l/we be punished when we haven't claimed in years, in fact we should be rewarded as such. But no banana! I then hunt for a better deal and when one has numerous insurances, even as much as $30-50 each makes a difference of hundred$$$. My bro in law, recently got his home insurance, it went up by $400! How ridiculous, I rang that insurance company (BudgetDirect) and said that $100 rise is understandable, but $400???? Needless to say, I got him a different insurance policy with Aami for only $80 more than the previous year.

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Re: Sydney mansions washed out in the oceans
Reply #98 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 12:43pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:18am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:48am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 7:52pm:

No one is immune to the effects of climate change. Even the richies with all of their wealth cannot avoid it !!

It is notable that just ONE of these houses carried solar panels
Apparently climate change is a joke - until it affects "me"

How are storms related to the climate change religion, did storms like this occur before the climate change religion?

YES, it seems like this sort of thing is the NORM - every second year

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Reply #99 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 12:52pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 2:29pm:

Collaroy and Balmoral took a beating a few years ago, from what I can remember. I would have moved out after that.

I've lived right on the ocean and don't find it calming at all. I prefer serenity.

Severe Storms on the east coast of Australia - 1770 - 2008

http://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/documents/bf/storms-east-coast-1770-2008.pdf

Interesting map. Sydney is directly in a latitudinal line with the tip of New Zealand. I wonder if our temperatures differ. I'll have to look that up.

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Reply #100 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 12:55pm

Sophia wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

Who makes the money from these ocean front lucrative properties?
Who allows it?

On the news last night there was a gathering of journalists at one of these properties, and then the Ch7 reporter said .. "Ah .. the owner has just arrived".

Obviously the landlord.

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Reply #101 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 1:02pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 12:50am:

I cannot help but shake my head at the people who lost their homes in that storm -- those parked on the shoreline. I would not laugh at stories about loss of life or injuries sustained. However, if you are going to build a home on the shore, at least get some protection from high tides.

Have a look at where the waves have scoured away the sea-front to show nothing but wet sand under the front of the houses. No underpinning foundation pylons at all. I feel 100% sure this wasn't legal at the time those houses were built.

There's no way a council or independent Building Inspector would have given their approval to the plans. Zero.

Brown paper envelopes. Hush-money.

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Reply #102 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 1:14pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 12:50am:

I cannot help but shake my head at the people who lost their homes in that storm -- those parked on the shoreline. I would not laugh at stories about loss of life or injuries sustained. However, if you are going to build a home on the shore, at least get some protection from high tides.

Have a look at where the waves have scoured away the sea-front to show nothing but wet sand under the front of the houses. No underpinning foundation pylons at all. I feel 100% sure this wasn't legal at the time those house were built there.

There's no way a council or independent Building Inspector would have given their approval to the plans. Zero.

Brown paper envelopes. Hush-money.

I just looked at the size of that swimming pool some idiot had put in.. the size of the hole would have created a huge problem... I would think even just with normal rain running down would have destabalised that ground... I agree councils need to hold some responsibility for what they allow people to do..as far as i know an in ground pool need council permission...

it would damage the wall just putting in sewage pipes..all the way along..

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Reply #103 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 2:03pm

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

I just looked at the size of that swimming pool some idiot had put in.. the size of the hole would have created a huge problem... I would think even just with normal rain running down would have destabalised that ground... I agree councils need to hold some responsibility for what they allow people to do..as far as i know an in ground pool need council permission...

it would damage the wall just putting in sewage pipes..all the way along..

I'm waiting to hear of a Class Action being arranged by these home-owners against the council, the planners, the Building Inspectors, the concreters, the building company, the builder's insurers, the subcontractors, the geologist, and a whole host of others.

Maybe even the local imam. Cool

Heads should roll.

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Reply #104 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 2:11pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 2:03pm:

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

I just looked at the size of that swimming pool some idiot had put in.. the size of the hole would have created a huge problem... I would think even just with normal rain running down would have destabalised that ground... I agree councils need to hold some responsibility for what they allow people to do..as far as i know an in ground pool need council permission...

it would damage the wall just putting in sewage pipes..all the way along..

I'm waiting to hear of a Class Action being arranged by these home-owners against the council, the planners, the Building Inspectors, the concreters, the building company, the builder's insurers, the subcontractors, the geologist, and a whole host of others.

Maybe even the local imam. Cool

Heads should roll.

Why would you build a pool when you have a beach in your backyard.

The Council wanted to build a seawall years ago they didn't after dim witted leftists protested.

The Council knew there was a problem and failed to act because dim wits protested, if they could find each and every one of these dim wits I would be happy for them to be sued otherwise I reckon the Council will wear it.

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