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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51137 At my desk.	Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Reply #150 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 3:11pm Muhammed murdered 800 Jews in a single day, so yes, it is pretty high up there on the list of things people criticise Muhammed for. This particular thread however is not about Muhammed's actions, but Gandalf's efforts to justify them by saying the 800 Jews killed were a mindless collective of traitors.
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Reply #151 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 3:22pm

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 3:11pm:

Muhammed murdered 800 Jews in a single day, so yes, it is pretty high up there on the list of things people criticise Muhammed for.

This particular thread however is not about Muhammed's actions, but Gandalf's efforts to justify them by saying the 800 Jews killed were a mindless collective of traitors.

Weren't those killed 'traitors?'

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51137 At my desk.	Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Reply #152 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 3:44pm The entire tribe was wiped out Aussie. No regard was given for the innocence or guilt of the individuals that were murdered. According to Gandalf, they were guilty by virtue of being part of a mindless collective.
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Reply #153 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 3:50pm

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 3:44pm:

The entire tribe was wiped out Aussie. No regard was given for the innocence or guilt of the individuals that were murdered. According to Gandalf, they were guilty by virtue of being part of a mindless collective.

Well, as Gandalf has showed, FD, we need to take what you claim about what Gandalf has said with rather a large handful of salt IMHO. You do enjoy erecting strawmen arguments, don't you? Roll Eyes

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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using memes. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51137 At my desk.	Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Reply #154 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 3:53pm That's why I copied his posts into the opening post of this thread Brian. There are even links to the context. See for yourself. Don't forget to come back and give us your opinion on what Gandalf posted.
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Reply #155 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 4:18pm

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 3:44pm:

The entire tribe was wiped out Aussie. No regard was given for the innocence or guilt of the individuals that were murdered. According to Gandalf, they were guilty by virtue of being part of a mindless collective.

If I had been in Vietnam, and I did not believe (politically) Australia ought to have been there, should the Viet Cong have spared me as an individual even though I was there killing them with my fellow Australians?

Should the Australian contingent have worn two separate uniforms so that the Viet Cong only shot at the red uniformed Aussies, and left the blue uniformed ones alone, even though all Australians, the red and blue, were all shooting at the Viet Cong with an intent to kill.

"Lie with dogs, you get fleas," freediver.

Was Gen. Cutler's Mob a mindless collective?

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Reply #156 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 4:39pm

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If I had been in Vietnam, and I did not believe (politically) Australia ought to have been there, should the Viet Cong have spared me as an individual even though I was there killing them with my fellow Australians?

They did not kill anyone Aussie. They were not killed in battle. They were besieged, surrendered unconditionally, taken prisoner and then executed. Their Jewishness was used as a justification for slaughterig all of them.

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Reply #157 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 4:48pm

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 4:39pm:

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If I had been in Vietnam, and I did not believe (politically) Australia ought to have been there, should the Viet Cong have spared me as an individual even though I was there killing them with my fellow Australians?

They did not kill anyone Aussie. They were not killed in battle. They were besieged, surrendered unconditionally, taken prisoner and then executed. Their Jewishness was used as a justification for slaughterig all of them.

How about you tell me the entire story...in your own words. It seems that has become necessary.

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Reply #158 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 5:01pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 4:39pm:

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If I had been in Vietnam, and I did not believe (politically) Australia ought to have been there, should the Viet Cong have spared me as an individual even though I was there killing them with my fellow Australians?

They did not kill anyone Aussie. They were not killed in battle. They were besieged, surrendered unconditionally, taken prisoner and then executed. Their Jewishness was used as a justification for slaughterig all of them.

How about you tell me the entire story...in your own words. It seems that has become necessary.

The Jews protected Mohammad from the thousands of Meccan soldiers who wanted his ass for robbing the trade caravans that passed between Syria and Arabia.

When the Meccan soldiers withdrew because they couldn't get to Mohammad because the jews were protecting him, $Profit Mo heard the sky fairy say they betrayed him him so he should kill them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza

On the very same day the Meccan soldiers withdrew Mohammed turned on the jews who protected him and killed all the men with pubic hair and one woman

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39406 Gender:	Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Reply #159 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 5:06pm I've previously checked that Wiki site. No-one is claiming absolute knowledge of the facts....but even that Wiki concedes Mo gave anyone who wanted to disassociate from the traitors, the opportunity to leave and live. I guess War was fought in those days without the advantage of Conventions to ignore.
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Reply #160 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 5:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

I've previously checked that Wiki site. No-one is claiming absolute knowledge of the facts....but even that Wiki concedes Mo gave anyone who wanted to disassociate from the traitors, the opportunity to leave and live. I guess War was fought in those days without the advantage of Conventions to ignore.

It was the angel Gabriel who told Mohammad to attack the Jews.

The invisible sky fairy told Mo to attack the jews.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51137 At my desk.	Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Reply #161 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 5:12pm Aussie we are not disputing the facts. We are discussing Gandalf's justification for the slaughter - that they were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews. Even if the whole thing was completely fabricated, it does not change the disturbing arguments Gandalf has used to justify the slaughter.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39406 Gender:	Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Reply #162 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 5:16pm Show me where he said these words in justification of the alleged event. Quote: they were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51137 At my desk.	Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Reply #163 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 5:36pm See the opening posts Aussie.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39406 Gender:	Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Reply #164 - Jun 12^th, 2016 at 5:42pm freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 5:36pm: See the opening posts Aussie. And nowhere does he say they were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews.
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