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May 26th, 2016 at 7:28am
 
I hope they catch this creep and deport him

The 17-year-old girl was on her way to school during Wednesday morning's peak when a man, described as wearing sunglasses and possibly a black turtleneck, put his hand under the girl's skirt and allegedly indecently assaulted her.

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what a shame she didnt scream.....
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cods wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 7:37am:
what a shame she didnt scream.....


More of a shame you posted that moronic comment.
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Reply #3 - May 26th, 2016 at 7:51am
 
poor impulse control and living in the realms of "lower consciousness' lead to these sort of incidents.

again, it is that modern groupthink low consciousness model of wanting the "Instant gratification" and wanting the "instant stimulation"

This is very low conscious thinking and this guy would need a lot of work to get out of this state.

He has no self control, so commitment to a brutal program of rigorous physical training, strict diet, reading and meditation will help him start to move up.

Once he does this, he will be an emotionally solid rock , self confident and giving off clean pure energy.
Women find this very attractive.

A guy who gropes is leeching off the girl, he isnt giving off energy, he is a little taker.

Now , if this guy trained himself to be an alpha, he would be able to give off good clean energy, he would be able to create sexual chemistry with a woman on the train by being "that champ" of a guy who is a contibutor, not a leech. he could chat to her about ekhardt tolle and about the dharma and the buddhist texts. he could be that"cool' guy.
by the end of the trip, she'd be punching her number into his phone.

How to go from criminal to cool and get the results you want.
get out of group think and become the superior man.
i would recommend david Daeda's epic work on true masculinity
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Reply #4 - May 26th, 2016 at 7:52am
 
You an (alleged) rape apologist these days, aquaman?
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Reply #5 - May 26th, 2016 at 8:08am
 
Marla wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 7:52am:
You an (alleged) rape apologist these days, aquaman?


not a rape apologist at all.
these incidents will occur more frequently if men are not taught how to be "a man" and relate to women in the masculine feminine paradigm.
its quite simple once you understand it.
guys like this chode would not do these sorts of things if they had done the training to understand the divine masculine and the divine feminine.
They do these sort of things because the group think mindset wants them kept in beta male purgatory , so they can sell them a lot of crap that wont help them attract a woman . they want armies of beaten down provider males who will be subservient to the group think. This guy needs rehab . the group think has created a monster.
there is nothing wrong at all with chatting to a woman on a train(not a schoolgirl though). But you have to have the right skillset and you wont get that from the group.
the social conditioning , in fact, is designed to keep men in this lower consciousness hell.
i wish to free them  Wink Wink
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Reply #6 - May 26th, 2016 at 8:11am
 
Sounds like you wish to apologize for their horrendous criminal actions.
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cods wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 7:37am:
what a shame she didnt scream.....


Paralyzed by fear. No shame in a 17 year old girl not knowing what to do when preyed upon.

I wish other passengers noticed and dished out some mob justice.
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Nope, i wish to prevent their horrendous criminal actions.

in the first chapter of Emotional Intelligence (a ground breaking book) the author talks about a case where a youth bumps into another youth on the sidewalk and the push turns to shove turns to anger turns to both pulling out guns , turns to a double homicide.

without control of our emotional state, bad things happen.

Young men need to be taught to "control their emotional state" they need to be taught "proper masculinity" they need to be taught "mindfulness and skillfulness" in their actions.

this was the action of an emotionally weak, mindless, unskillful person who does not understand true masculinity and sexuality.

you can just lock them all up, but you better build a big jail.
far better to let men teach men about the skillsets they need to navigate the current social paradigm.
this is currently not being done and society will continue to suffer until it is .
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GordyL wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:20am:
[quote author=cods link=1464211708/1#1 date=1464212246]what a shame she didnt scream.....


Paralyzed by fear. No shame in a 17 year old girl not knowing what to do when preyed upon.

I wish other passengers noticed and dished out some mob justice.[/quote]

they would have done had she kneed him in the groin or screamed... she is 17 not 7...I am not blaming her but she got off the train and then complained...

what can staff on the platform do???..

to me its commonsense... someone even puts his hand on your shoulder today is in big trouble....

I agree shock can make you do some strange things... I hope she is ok.. and they find the bastard....gotta be a pretty low life to get your fun like that.
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aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:24am:
Nope, i wish to prevent their horrendous criminal actions.



Riiiighhhht. By apologizing for them.
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aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:24am:
Nope, i wish to prevent their horrendous criminal actions.

in the first chapter of Emotional Intelligence (a ground breaking book) the author talks about a case where a youth bumps into another youth on the sidewalk and the push turns to shove turns to anger turns to both pulling out guns , turns to a double homicide.

without control of our emotional state, bad things happen.

Young men need to be taught to "control their emotional state" they need to be taught "proper masculinity" they need to be taught "mindfulness and skillfulness" in their actions.

this was the action of an emotionally weak, mindless, unskillful person who does not understand true masculinity and sexuality.

you can just lock them all up, but you better build a big jail.
far better to let men teach men about the skillsets they need to navigate the current social paradigm.
this is currently not being done and society will continue to suffer until it is .



so whos job is that aqua.. you sound as if a man on a train has no responsibility because he can claim he was never TRAINED....

give us a break.... what has happened in the last hundred years.. are people being born with fewer and fewer brain cells.. now????? Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #12 - May 26th, 2016 at 8:31am
 
GordyL wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:20am:
cods wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 7:37am:
what a shame she didnt scream.....


Paralyzed by fear. No shame in a 17 year old girl not knowing what to do when preyed upon.



Exactly. The details are not in. She could have been life threatened at knifepoint or the alleged attacker could have seriously harmed others on the train if confronted by those who have zero experience in what to do in such a situation.
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aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:24am:
this was the action of an emotionally weak, mindless, unskillful person who does not understand true masculinity and sexuality.


"Unskillful?" WTF are you even talking about? Appears to me he had plenty of skill and mind to think and plan his criminal behavior.

aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:24am:
you can just lock them all up, but you better build a big jail. far better to let men teach men about the skillsets they need to navigate the current social paradigm.



And how does one do that, aquaboy? By reading pseudo-psychology on the "alpha male" paradigm by hack authors who make apologies for those who commit such crimes?
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cods wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:27am:
GordyL wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:20am:
[quote author=cods link=1464211708/1#1 date=1464212246]what a shame she didnt scream.....


Paralyzed by fear. No shame in a 17 year old girl not knowing what to do when preyed upon.

I wish other passengers noticed and dished out some mob justice.[/quote]

they would have done had she kneed him in the groin or screamed... she is 17 not 7...I am not blaming her but she got off the train and then complained...

what can staff on the platform do???..

to me its commonsense... someone even puts his hand on your shoulder today is in big trouble....

I agree shock can make you do some strange things... I hope she is ok.. and they find the bastard....gotta be a pretty low life to get your fun like that.


Perhaps she was a very immature 17 year old, everyone reacts differently. Even some adults totally lock up when put in a confrontational situation.

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cods wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:24am:
Nope, i wish to prevent their horrendous criminal actions.

in the first chapter of Emotional Intelligence (a ground breaking book) the author talks about a case where a youth bumps into another youth on the sidewalk and the push turns to shove turns to anger turns to both pulling out guns , turns to a double homicide.

without control of our emotional state, bad things happen.

Young men need to be taught to "control their emotional state" they need to be taught "proper masculinity" they need to be taught "mindfulness and skillfulness" in their actions.

this was the action of an emotionally weak, mindless, unskillful person who does not understand true masculinity and sexuality.

you can just lock them all up, but you better build a big jail.
far better to let men teach men about the skillsets they need to navigate the current social paradigm.
this is currently not being done and society will continue to suffer until it is .



so whos job is that aqua.. you sound as if a man on a train has no responsibility because he can claim he was never TRAINED....

give us a break.... what has happened in the last hundred years.. are people being born with fewer and fewer brain cells.. now????? Angry Angry Angry



not neccessarily fewer brain cells but they are becoming less and less mindful and skillful.
this is inevitable in a society which holds instant gratification, leecher mentality, stimulation saturation as the "opium of the masses".

if you want to make australia safer from motor vehicle deaths, educate people to become better drivers.
if you want to make australia safer from male predatory behaviour, educate men to become better men.

isnt 60 % of intenet traffic porn?
is this considered the appropriate channel to educate men about their behaviour towards the divine feminine ??
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Marla wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:37am:
aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:24am:
this was the action of an emotionally weak, mindless, unskillful person who does not understand true masculinity and sexuality.


"Unskillful?" WTF are you even talking about? Appears to me he had plenty of skill and mind to think and plan his criminal behavior.

aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:24am:
you can just lock them all up, but you better build a big jail. far better to let men teach men about the skillsets they need to navigate the current social paradigm.



And how does one do that, aquaboy? By reading pseudo-psychology on the "alpha male" paradigm by hack authors who make apologies for those who commit such crimes?



you are very angry, emotional and cannot relate from a mindful stillness.
this is the very 'animal" mentality i have told you needs to be extinguished. yet it is the mentality you choose to live in.
what you resist persists.
there is no way forward from your current mindset, you are stymied
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Do we know what colour skin the train driver has?

Mr Hammer will want to know.

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aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:44am:
you are very angry, emotional and cannot relate from a mindful stillness.


If I'm upset about anything it's your constant inability to properly answer a god damn question. I should know better.


aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:44am:
this is the very 'animal" mentality i have told you needs to be extinguished. yet it is the mentality you choose to live in.
what you resist persists.
there is no way forward from your current mindset, you are stymied


More rape apology.
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aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:41am:
cods wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:24am:
Nope, i wish to prevent their horrendous criminal actions.

in the first chapter of Emotional Intelligence (a ground breaking book) the author talks about a case where a youth bumps into another youth on the sidewalk and the push turns to shove turns to anger turns to both pulling out guns , turns to a double homicide.

without control of our emotional state, bad things happen.

Young men need to be taught to "control their emotional state" they need to be taught "proper masculinity" they need to be taught "mindfulness and skillfulness" in their actions.

this was the action of an emotionally weak, mindless, unskillful person who does not understand true masculinity and sexuality.

you can just lock them all up, but you better build a big jail.
far better to let men teach men about the skillsets they need to navigate the current social paradigm.
this is currently not being done and society will continue to suffer until it is .



so whos job is that aqua.. you sound as if a man on a train has no responsibility because he can claim he was never TRAINED....

give us a break.... what has happened in the last hundred years.. are people being born with fewer and fewer brain cells.. now????? Angry Angry Angry



not neccessarily fewer brain cells but they are becoming less and less mindful and skillful.
this is inevitable in a society which holds instant gratification, leecher mentality, stimulation saturation as the "opium of the masses".

if you want to make australia safer from motor vehicle deaths, educate people to become better drivers.
if you want to make australia safer from male predatory behaviour, educate men to become better men.

isnt 60 % of intenet traffic porn?
is this considered the appropriate channel to educate men about their behaviour towards the divine feminine ??



well not on my computer anyway...

aqua we cannot be responsible for others only our self...

its all very well  saying how we got it all wrong... but its an avalanche anyone can see that....sloppy dirty uncaring..attitude takes over very very quickly...

I have my 11 yr old grandson living with me at the m moment a lovely boy..not a speck of trouble   but I do have to remind him to say please and thank you.. just a small thing...but something that came natural years ago...... I cant remember when I last saw a man open a door for a lady....I know women asked for it... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I dont think so....but lets be honest just because you want a little equalisation....doesnt mean good manners have to go out the door...

good manners equals respect to me..

and its getting pushed further and further down the list of priorities....

bring back good manners please...
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Marla wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:47am:
aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:44am:
you are very angry, emotional and cannot relate from a mindful stillness.


If I'm upset about anything it's your constant inability to properly answer a god damn question. I should know better.


aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:44am:
this is the very 'animal" mentality i have told you needs to be extinguished. yet it is the mentality you choose to live in.
what you resist persists.
there is no way forward from your current mindset, you are stymied


More rape apology.



It is not my resonsibility to answer a question.
That is a leecher mentality.

I see myself as the sun giving off pure clean energy.
If people on the internet dont validate my energy, it is of no consequence.
You have to start seeing yourself, not as a human but as an entity.
think of yourself more as an awesome small business or an awesome club.

You construct an awesome ecosystem within the club and you radiate out your increasingly awesome position.

If people are outside the club getting all butt hurt because you wont let them in, you are oblivious to it.

new people are always welcome in the club, welcome in the ecosystem....but they have to contribute positive energy and come with a sense of mindfulness and contribution.

Bratty behaviour simply is not tolerated.
Strong bouncers patrol the door and will only allow you in to interact if you fulfil certain criteria of awesomeness.

anger, emotional instability and animal mindfulness do not sit well with my personal bouncers  Wink
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Reply #21 - May 26th, 2016 at 9:03am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 9:00am:
It is not my resonsibility to answer a question.


Yes, I know. Appears you have avoided responsibility all of your life.

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aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 9:00am:
I see myself as the sun giving off pure clean energy.


I'm sure you do.

However, others see you more like this:

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greggerypeccary wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 9:17am:
aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 9:00am:
I see myself as the sun giving off pure clean energy.


I'm sure you do.

However, others see you more like this:

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my personal bouncers will never allow you into my club with an attitude like that.
May i suggest you read Ayn Rands "atlas shrugged" so you can come back with a sense of "contribution" Wink
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GordyL wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 7:28am:


why? just put him under the train
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aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 9:30am:
May i suggest you read Ayn Rands "atlas shrugged"


You may, but you're at least 20 years too late.

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Depends on the situation.  If the man is obviously physically bigger, and there is no one around, then cut your losses and run!

If the man is not so big, and there are plenty of people around.  Then talk very loudly "DONT touch me."  That usually works.
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Sun does not shine from Aquatrousers' anus as he deludes himself. I expect the emanations are more gaseous than sunlight.
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Reply #28 - May 26th, 2016 at 5:16pm
 
What a sad thread.

Here we have a pervert, preying on a schoolgirl and what do people do.
Blame the girl,
Defend the man based on the way he has been molded by society.
Even blame the other passengers.

Everyone knows right from wrong, inherently.
He would have known that his actions were wrong.

But we, as a society so in fear of punishing anybody for fear of hurting their feelings, allow this poo to go on.

If it had been my daughter, I would have been riding that train until I found the creep, and after finding him, he would loose the urge to touch a woman again, in fact he wouldn't be capable of ever having children and if he was really lucky he may even walk again one day.

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GordyL wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 7:28am:
I hope they catch this creep and deport him

The 17-year-old girl was on her way to school during Wednesday morning's peak when a man, described as wearing sunglasses and possibly a black turtleneck, put his hand under the girl's skirt and allegedly indecently assaulted her.

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/teenage-girl-allegedly-indecently-assaulted-on-crowded-s...


On reading your brief snippet I thought "I bet he's Indian".  Sure enough...

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The teenager told police her attacker as being "Indian or Sub-Continental" in appearance


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Do we know what colour or nationality the train driver is yet?

Mr Hammer would like needs to know.
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GordyL wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 7:28am:
I hope they catch this creep and deport him

The 17-year-old girl was on her way to school during Wednesday morning's peak when a man, described as wearing sunglasses and possibly a black turtleneck, put his hand under the girl's skirt and allegedly indecently assaulted her.

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/teenage-girl-allegedly-indecently-assaulted-on-crowded-s...


On reading your brief snippet I thought "I bet he's Indian".  Sure enough...

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The teenager told police her attacker as being "Indian or Sub-Continental" in appearance





It says:

The teenager told police her attacker as being "Indian or Sub-Continental" in appearance, about 30 years old, 180 centimetres tall, with an average build and short black hair.



Hang em and hang em high.


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There appears to be a higher than normal incidence of sexual molestation by these illegal immigrants than in society in general.
Not in numbers, but in percentages.

Is this because they have no control due to their low intelligence? (81)
Or is it because the countries they come from practice these perverted behaviors in normal life?

I believe that there is a more logical and insidious reason for this.
These people, these illegals, come here without their passports and without identification, because they have been  convicted of similar crimes or are on the run from the law in the countries from where they come.

Seeking to start afresh and perhaps start anew.
However, perversion is not so easily denied and especially so when low intelligence is rife (81)
They soon fall back into their perverted ways and we as a society suffer the consequences.

Recent demographics show that over 80% of illegals still have not found work five years into their infestation.
They are considerably higher represented in crime figures as a percentage of their number than any group in our great land.
They live off our welfare, screw the system and are far more vocal about any perceived slight against them, their cult or their perverted way of life than any group.

As a culture (and I use that term with tongue in cheek) they are sadly lacking in tolerance, manners, compassion and intelligence. (81)

They bring with them trouble, strife, indecency, insulting behavior and terrorism, why must we suffer this?

The time has come to start deporting these animals, if they cannot abide by our laws, our culture and our way of life, perhaps they just don't fit.
Perhaps they should be sent back to where these ways are the norm and let them suffer at the hands of their own draconian justice system.
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Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:53am:
There appears to be a higher than normal incidence of sexual molestation by these illegal immigrants ...


Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?

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Look at the stats buddy.

Listen to the news.

People are even beginning to expect that some form or sexual predication or perversion being perpetrated by our illegal immigrants when ever there is an attack...........in most cases they are right.

But I suppose that is normal for any cult that promotes the subjugation of females using disciplinary garb, genital mutilation, Honor killing, draconian punishments of females with none for males and an attitude of "its all right as long as they are infidels".

Perverted, sick, twisted and abhorrent people, get rid of em.
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The teenager told police her attacker as being "Indian or Sub-Continental" in appearance, about 30 years old, 180 centimetres tall, with an average build and short black hair........


I can't believe it. They gave a description. They only do that when it's a white perp. Amazing!!
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greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:55am:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:53am:
There appears to be a higher than normal incidence of sexual molestation by these illegal immigrants ...


Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?

There's been quite a few from asylum seekers both here and abroad.
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Mr Hammer wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 3:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:55am:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:53am:
There appears to be a higher than normal incidence of sexual molestation by these illegal immigrants ...


Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?

There's been quite a few from asylum seekers both here and abroad.


Asylum seekers aren't illegal immigrants.

Either are refugees.

Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?
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Reply #38 - May 27th, 2016 at 4:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 3:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 3:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:55am:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:53am:
There appears to be a higher than normal incidence of sexual molestation by these illegal immigrants ...


Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?

There's been quite a few from asylum seekers both here and abroad.


Asylum seekers aren't illegal immigrants.

Either are refugees.

Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?


So called asylum seekers and refugees, not the legal ones going through legal process are ipso facto ILLEGALS.

Only the twisted minds of the do gooders who have no idea of the trouble they are bringing into this country say otherwise.
They are ILLEGALLY entering our borders.
They are attempting to ILLEGALLY enter our country by ILLEGAL means.
And when they come here they continue with illegal ways.
They are ILLEGALS.
Anything else is pure bovine excreta.

As for you usual one liner "SHOW ME THE FACTS"
If you are so blind, so unaware and so deliberately obtuse as to not be aware of the facts, I can not help you.
Next you will be disputing the facts that more than 80% of ILLEGALS have no jobs after 5 years of being here.

If you want them here so badly, please, be my guest and sponsor them yourself. I don't want them or their like.
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Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 3:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 3:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:55am:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:53am:
There appears to be a higher than normal incidence of sexual molestation by these illegal immigrants ...


Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?

There's been quite a few from asylum seekers both here and abroad.


Asylum seekers aren't illegal immigrants.

Either are refugees.

Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?


So called asylum seekers and refugees, not the legal ones going through legal process are ipso facto ILLEGALS.

Only the twisted minds of the do gooders who have no idea of the trouble they are bringing into this country say otherwise.
They are ILLEGALLY entering our borders.
They are attempting to ILLEGALLY enter our country by ILLEGAL means.
And when they come here they continue with illegal ways.
They are ILLEGALS.
Anything else is pure bovine excreta.

As for you usual one liner "SHOW ME THE FACTS"
If you are so blind, so unaware and so deliberately obtuse as to not be aware of the facts, I can not help you.
Next you will be disputing the facts that more than 80% of ILLEGALS have no jobs after 5 years of being here.

If you want them here so badly, please, be my guest and sponsor them yourself. I don't want them or their like.


Asylum seekers aren't illegal immigrants.

Either are refugees.

These are indisputable facts.

If you think otherwise, cite a reference to the relevant legislation that deems them to be "illegal".

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Reply #40 - May 27th, 2016 at 4:22pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:14pm:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 3:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 3:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:55am:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:53am:
There appears to be a higher than normal incidence of sexual molestation by these illegal immigrants ...


Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?

There's been quite a few from asylum seekers both here and abroad.


Asylum seekers aren't illegal immigrants.

Either are refugees.

Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?


So called asylum seekers and refugees, not the legal ones going through legal process are ipso facto ILLEGALS.

Only the twisted minds of the do gooders who have no idea of the trouble they are bringing into this country say otherwise.
They are ILLEGALLY entering our borders.
They are attempting to ILLEGALLY enter our country by ILLEGAL means.
And when they come here they continue with illegal ways.
They are ILLEGALS.
Anything else is pure bovine excreta.

As for you usual one liner "SHOW ME THE FACTS"
If you are so blind, so unaware and so deliberately obtuse as to not be aware of the facts, I can not help you.
Next you will be disputing the facts that more than 80% of ILLEGALS have no jobs after 5 years of being here.

If you want them here so badly, please, be my guest and sponsor them yourself. I don't want them or their like.


Asylum seekers aren't illegal immigrants.

Either are refugees.

These are indisputable facts.

If you think otherwise, cite a reference to the relevant legislation that deems them to be "illegal".



They are illegals little pecca, nobody is buying your nonsense.
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Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:13pm:
Next you will be disputing the facts that more than 80% of ILLEGALS have no jobs after 5 years of being here.


Actually, most illegal immigrants have jobs (if they applied for the dole, they'd be found out straight away and deported).

You're confusing illegal immigrants with refugees.

"58,000 illegal immigrants in Australia have arrived by plane" Link


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Baronvonrort wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:14pm:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 3:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 3:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:55am:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:53am:
There appears to be a higher than normal incidence of sexual molestation by these illegal immigrants ...


Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?

There's been quite a few from asylum seekers both here and abroad.


Asylum seekers aren't illegal immigrants.

Either are refugees.

Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?


So called asylum seekers and refugees, not the legal ones going through legal process are ipso facto ILLEGALS.

Only the twisted minds of the do gooders who have no idea of the trouble they are bringing into this country say otherwise.
They are ILLEGALLY entering our borders.
They are attempting to ILLEGALLY enter our country by ILLEGAL means.
And when they come here they continue with illegal ways.
They are ILLEGALS.
Anything else is pure bovine excreta.

As for you usual one liner "SHOW ME THE FACTS"
If you are so blind, so unaware and so deliberately obtuse as to not be aware of the facts, I can not help you.
Next you will be disputing the facts that more than 80% of ILLEGALS have no jobs after 5 years of being here.

If you want them here so badly, please, be my guest and sponsor them yourself. I don't want them or their like.


Asylum seekers aren't illegal immigrants.

Either are refugees.

These are indisputable facts.

If you think otherwise, cite a reference to the relevant legislation that deems them to be "illegal".



They are illegals.



Incorrect.

If you think otherwise, cite a reference to the relevant legislation that deems them to be "illegal".
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greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:23pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:14pm:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 3:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 3:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:55am:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:53am:
There appears to be a higher than normal incidence of sexual molestation by these illegal immigrants ...


Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?

There's been quite a few from asylum seekers both here and abroad.


Asylum seekers aren't illegal immigrants.

Either are refugees.

Can you show some examples of sexual molestation in our society by these illegal immigrants?


So called asylum seekers and refugees, not the legal ones going through legal process are ipso facto ILLEGALS.

Only the twisted minds of the do gooders who have no idea of the trouble they are bringing into this country say otherwise.
They are ILLEGALLY entering our borders.
They are attempting to ILLEGALLY enter our country by ILLEGAL means.
And when they come here they continue with illegal ways.
They are ILLEGALS.
Anything else is pure bovine excreta.

As for you usual one liner "SHOW ME THE FACTS"
If you are so blind, so unaware and so deliberately obtuse as to not be aware of the facts, I can not help you.
Next you will be disputing the facts that more than 80% of ILLEGALS have no jobs after 5 years of being here.

If you want them here so badly, please, be my guest and sponsor them yourself. I don't want them or their like.


Asylum seekers aren't illegal immigrants.

Either are refugees.

These are indisputable facts.

If you think otherwise, cite a reference to the relevant legislation that deems them to be "illegal".



They are illegals.



Incorrect.

If you think otherwise, cite a reference to the relevant legislation that deems them to be "illegal".


Bob Carr said they were economic migrants they're not refugees.

They're illegals little pecca
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Baronvonrort wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:29pm:
They're illegals


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greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:30pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:29pm:
They're illegals


Incorrect.

If you think otherwise, cite a reference to the relevant legislation that deems them to be "illegal".



If someone enters a country without legal documentation, without going through legal prescribed protocols.
If someone seeks to enter a country without the permission of the government illegally.
They are deemed illegally entering the country and are incarcerated, like the criminals they are.
Just because the government folded to the will of a bunch of no hoper individuals and granted them a visa, it does not negate the fact that they arrived here ILLEGALLY.
THAT MAKES THEM ILLEGALS.

It was stated , through information gained through the freedom of information act, that more than 80% of these illegal boat arrivals have not been employed in Australia since they arrived.
Our welfare system is bogged down with these parasites who milk the system for all its worth, quickly establishing themselves as disabled and getting maximum benefits for nothing.

Many of these ILLEGALS have become involved in illegal practices, following on from what they were doing in their own country.

I have no problem with immigrants, legal immigrants.
Australia would be a much poorer country without the wonderful people from all over the world.
But this influx of ILLEGAL and twisted cult followers has badly affected how we perceive all dark skinned people.
Its a shame because some Muslims are a great asset to our country.

We need to rid ourselves of these ILLEGAL parasites, before we end up like Paris and other parts of Europe.
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Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 5:12pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:30pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:29pm:
They're illegals


Incorrect.

If you think otherwise, cite a reference to the relevant legislation that deems them to be "illegal".



If someone enters a country without legal documentation, without going through legal prescribed protocols.
If someone seeks to enter a country without the permission of the government illegally.
They are deemed illegally entering the country and are incarcerated, like the criminals they are.
Just because the government folded to the will of a bunch of no hoper individuals and granted them a visa, it does not negate the fact that they arrived here ILLEGALLY.
THAT MAKES THEM ILLEGALS.


Incorrect.

If you think otherwise, cite a reference to the relevant legislation that deems them to be "illegal".
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Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 5:12pm:
are incarcerated, like the criminals they are.


They are detained for health, security, and identification checks.

Not for any criminal activity.

They break no Australian laws when they enter the country to claim asylum.

Straight from an Australian Government website:

"It is not a crime to enter Australia without authorisation for the purpose of seeking asylum. Asylum seekers do not break any Australian laws simply by arriving on boats or without authorisation."

Facts


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ILLEGALS


SEND EM HOME


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Marla wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:47am:
aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:44am:
you are very angry, emotional and cannot relate from a mindful stillness.

If I'm upset about anything it's your constant inability to properly answer a god damn question. I should know better.
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this is the very 'animal" mentality i have told you needs to be extinguished. yet it is the mentality you choose to live in.
what you resist persists.
there is no way forward from your current mindset, you are stymied

More rape apology.


I don't see scoot apologising anywhere so you are just making up lies...

and he is right..

you are angry and emotional.. (like most of the time)

this is most likely due to your weak drug abuse and the licking of other womans vaginas...

you have "checked out" of the human lifecycle and given in to urgers of self abuse and gratification...

you are weak in mind, body and soul..
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Reply #50 - May 28th, 2016 at 11:57am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 6:49am:
Marla wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:47am:
aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:44am:
you are very angry, emotional and cannot relate from a mindful stillness.

If I'm upset about anything it's your constant inability to properly answer a god damn question. I should know better.
aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:44am:
this is the very 'animal" mentality i have told you needs to be extinguished. yet it is the mentality you choose to live in.
what you resist persists.
there is no way forward from your current mindset, you are stymied

More rape apology.


I don't see scoot apologising anywhere so you are just making up lies...

and he is right..

you are angry and emotional.. (like most of the time)

this is most likely due to your weak drug abuse and the licking of other womans vaginas...

you have "checked out" of the human lifecycle and given in to urgers of self abuse and gratification...

you are weak in mind, body and soul..


If lip flapping and gum bumping from a supine position were lethal to the targets, the Mechanic would be invincible.
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Reply #51 - May 28th, 2016 at 9:00pm
 
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Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 5:12pm:
are incarcerated, like the criminals they are.


They are detained for health, security, and identification checks.

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You got your butt handed to you yesterday on this. (again) They are detained for entering the country without valid entry documents or visas. If they were not committing an illegal activity then the government would have no legal right to detain them.. Not hard to understand really, even for a 12 year old. No surprise you still dont get it. I got to give it to you, you like getting your butt kicked. Now post a another picture and pretend you somehow "won" this non arguement again.
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GordyL wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 8:20am:
cods wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 7:37am:
what a shame she didnt scream.....


Paralyzed by fear. No shame in a 17 year old girl not knowing what to do when preyed upon.

I wish other passengers noticed and dished out some mob justice.


Hence, she should have screamed to alert those around her of an assault taking place.
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Reply #53 - May 28th, 2016 at 9:15pm
 
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 5:12pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:30pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 4:29pm:
They're illegals


Incorrect.

If you think otherwise, cite a reference to the relevant legislation that deems them to be "illegal".



If someone enters a country without legal documentation, without going through legal prescribed protocols.
If someone seeks to enter a country without the permission of the government illegally.
They are deemed illegally entering the country and are incarcerated, like the criminals they are.
Just because the government folded to the will of a bunch of no hoper individuals and granted them a visa, it does not negate the fact that they arrived here ILLEGALLY.
THAT MAKES THEM ILLEGALS.

It was stated , through information gained through the freedom of information act, that more than 80% of these illegal boat arrivals have not been employed in Australia since they arrived.
Our welfare system is bogged down with these parasites who milk the system for all its worth, quickly establishing themselves as disabled and getting maximum benefits for nothing.

Many of these ILLEGALS have become involved in illegal practices, following on from what they were doing in their own country.

I have no problem with immigrants, legal immigrants.
Australia would be a much poorer country without the wonderful people from all over the world.
But this influx of ILLEGAL and twisted cult followers has badly affected how we perceive all dark skinned people.
Its a shame because some Muslims are a great asset to our country.

We need to rid ourselves of these ILLEGAL parasites, before we end up like Paris and other parts of Europe.


Then, let me give you a quick lesson in modern law. 

The UN Refugee Convention (to which Australia is a signatory) recognises that refugees have a lawful right to enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum, regardless of how they arrive or whether they hold valid travel or identity documents. The Convention stipulates that what would usually be considered as illegal actions (e.g. entering a country without a visa) should not be treated as illegal if a person is seeking asylum.

Now, let me give you a couple of real life examples.

Case study: murder.

If a man intentionally murder another. 
1. Case one:  A man murder another man because he wanted the inheritance.  He is otherwise not suffering from any duress, or mental health illness, or impaired judgement.  In this case, the man will be found guilty of murder.
2. Case two: A man murders another.  But the man is suffering from severe schizophrenia, whose voices told him to commit such crime.   This man will be found not guilty of murder by reason of insanity.

Case study: Parking infringement
1. Case one: a lady parks her car in a no standing zone, because its more convenient for her.  She will be fined for illegal parking.
2. Case two: a lady parks her car in a no standing zone, but she did so, because she felt some chest pain, and had to call the amublance leaving her car behind.  She is techinically parked illegally, but in the eyes of the law, she was not parked illegally or to be fined because of the medical emergency exemption clause. 

So, techincally, the boat people entered the country 'illegally'.  But if they are applying for asylum, then under the Australian law, they did not enter the country illegally during their processing.   They will only be found illegal entry IF their processing has failed. 

In Australia, we do not practice strict legalism.   Its a combination of legalism, moralism and relativelism.  Thats why our laws are full of exemptions. 

Fact: to date, over 80% of the asylum seekers had been found to be genuine refugees.
Fact: ALL of the detainees overseas who enter Australia by boat, who are having their refugee status processed, are not illegals.  They have committed no crime under the Australian law as we know it, and we are locking them up - men women and children.   We are doing so, because, our leaders want to buy votes from people like you. 

Think about it. 
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Valkie wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 5:16pm:
What a sad thread.

Here we have a pervert, preying on a schoolgirl and what do people do.
Blame the girl,
Defend the man based on the way he has been molded by society.
Even blame the other passengers.

Everyone knows right from wrong, inherently.
He would have known that his actions were wrong.

But we, as a society so in fear of punishing anybody for fear of hurting their feelings, allow this poo to go on.

If it had been my daughter, I would have been riding that train until I found the creep, and after finding him, he would loose the urge to touch a woman again, in fact he wouldn't be capable of ever having children and if he was really lucky he may even walk again one day.

We need more vigilantes.


Grin Grin Grin Grin

This offender was ..

A Third World immigrant and a Darkie .. and quite possibly a Pakistani Muslim.

And what this means is that if the law catches up with him, he has absolutely bugger-all to worry about, any more than the Middle Eastern and sub-continental taxi-drivers in the UK and Australia have anything to worry about when caught molesting women in their immediate vicinity.

And any more than the hundred or so Middle Eastern men who performed 'Taharrush Jamai' in Germany have anything to worry about after having been caught.

Welcome to the liberal-progressive ethos of our times.


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Then, let me give you a quick lesson in modern law. 

The UN Refugee Convention (to which Australia is a signatory) recognises that refugees have a lawful right to enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum, regardless of how they arrive or whether they hold valid travel or identity documents. The Convention stipulates that what would usually be considered as illegal actions (e.g. entering a country without a visa) should not be treated as illegal if a person is seeking asylum.



Correct!

But then by the same token every claimant who is found not to be a genuine refugee is therefore, ipso facto, an illegal migrant.

Correct?

Claiming 'refugee status' does not in itself automatically confer upon that person the right NOT to be regarded as an illegal immigrant.

Every last one of those people coming across from Indonesia in boats was righfully regarded as 'illegal immigrants' until proved not to be so.

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Lord Herbert wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:31pm:
tickleandrose wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:15pm:
Then, let me give you a quick lesson in modern law. 

The UN Refugee Convention (to which Australia is a signatory) recognises that refugees have a lawful right to enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum, regardless of how they arrive or whether they hold valid travel or identity documents. The Convention stipulates that what would usually be considered as illegal actions (e.g. entering a country without a visa) should not be treated as illegal if a person is seeking asylum.



Correct!

But then by the same token every claimant who is found not to be a genuine refugee is therefore, ipso facto, an illegal migrant.

Correct?

Claiming 'refugee status' does not in itself automatically confer upon that person the right NOT to be regarded as an illegal immigrant.

Every last one of those people coming across from Indonesia in boats was righfully regarded as 'illegal immigrants' until proved not to be so.



Well, it would be correct in many other countries like North Korea.  But here in Australia, we have this tiny thing in the legal system, and that is:

You are innocent until proven guilty.   Smiley
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Fact: to date, over 80% of the asylum seekers had been found to be genuine refugees.
Fact: ALL of the detainees overseas who enter Australia by boat, who are having their refugee status processed, are not illegals.  They have committed no crime under the Australian law as we know it, and we are locking them up - men women and children.   We are doing so, because, our leaders want to buy votes from people like you. 

Think about it. 
You are confused because you are posting on emotion, not fact. For an act to be illegal it is not necassary for it to be a criminal act. Hence the fact that those without visas can be legally detained because they have committed an illegal act, albeit with no criminal penalty.
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GordyL wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 7:28am:
I hope they catch this creep and deport him

The 17-year-old girl was on her way to school during Wednesday morning's peak when a man, described as wearing sunglasses and possibly a black turtleneck, put his hand under the girl's skirt and allegedly indecently assaulted her.

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/teenage-girl-allegedly-indecently-assaulted-on-crowded-s...


On reading your brief snippet I thought "I bet he's Indian".  Sure enough...

Quote:
The teenager told police her attacker as being "Indian or Sub-Continental" in appearance





It says:

The teenager told police her attacker as being "Indian or Sub-Continental" in appearance, about 30 years old, 180 centimetres tall, with an average build and short black hair.



Hang em and hang em high.



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Lord Herbert wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:31pm:
tickleandrose wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:15pm:
Then, let me give you a quick lesson in modern law. 

The UN Refugee Convention (to which Australia is a signatory) recognises that refugees have a lawful right to enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum, regardless of how they arrive or whether they hold valid travel or identity documents. The Convention stipulates that what would usually be considered as illegal actions (e.g. entering a country without a visa) should not be treated as illegal if a person is seeking asylum.



Correct!

But then by the same token every claimant who is found not to be a genuine refugee is therefore, ipso facto, an illegal migrant.

Correct?

Claiming 'refugee status' does not in itself automatically confer upon that person the right NOT to be regarded as an illegal immigrant.

Every last one of those people coming across from Indonesia in boats was righfully regarded as 'illegal immigrants' until proved not to be so.

No Herb, they all entered illegally. The ones allowed to stay were just conferred refugee status. That doesnt negate the illegality of their entry. There is no criminal penalty under law for entering Australia without a visa, but it is still illegal and thus gives the government the right to detain such persons.
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tickleandrose wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:15pm:
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Fact: to date, over 80% of the asylum seekers had been found to be genuine refugees.
Fact: ALL of the detainees overseas who enter Australia by boat, who are having their refugee status processed, are not illegals.  They have committed no crime under the Australian law as we know it, and we are locking them up - men women and children.   We are doing so, because, our leaders want to buy votes from people like you. 

Think about it. 
You are confused because you are posting on emotion, not fact. For an act to be illegal it is not necassary for it to be a criminal act. Hence the fact that those without visas can be legally detained because they have committed an illegal act, albeit with no criminal penalty.


The UN convention states clearly that: The UN Refugee Convention (to which Australia is a signatory) recognises that refugees have a lawful right to enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum, regardless of how they arrive or whether they hold valid travel or identity documents. The Convention stipulates that what would usually be considered as illegal actions (e.g. entering a country without a visa) should not be treated as illegal if a person is seeking asylum.

Even though, it is technically an "illegal act", they are not considered as having performed an illegal act.   The asylum seekers were detailed, Not because they have committed an illegal act, it is because, our law states that anyone arrived by boat, will be mandatorily detailed, for purpose of process their claims - e.g. health and background checks.   

So there is a difference.  Let me give you a few example:

1. A man arrives at Sydney airport, with no papers, and wanted to stealthly sneak his way in.  He then committed an illegal act.  So, he will be detained because of this illegal act. 
2. A man arrives at Christmas Island from boat with no papers.  But he declared that he is an asylum seeker.  Therefore under the Australian law, he have not yet committed an illegal act until or if his processing have failed.  He was detained because our current law states that anyone in his situation be mandatorily detained. 

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ian wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:52pm:
tickleandrose wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:15pm:
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Fact: to date, over 80% of the asylum seekers had been found to be genuine refugees.
Fact: ALL of the detainees overseas who enter Australia by boat, who are having their refugee status processed, are not illegals.  They have committed no crime under the Australian law as we know it, and we are locking them up - men women and children.   We are doing so, because, our leaders want to buy votes from people like you. 

Think about it. 
You are confused because you are posting on emotion, not fact. For an act to be illegal it is not necassary for it to be a criminal act. Hence the fact that those without visas can be legally detained because they have committed an illegal act, albeit with no criminal penalty.


The UN convention states clearly that: The UN Refugee Convention (to which Australia is a signatory) recognises that refugees have a lawful right to enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum, regardless of how they arrive or whether they hold valid travel or identity documents. The Convention stipulates that what would usually be considered as illegal actions (e.g. entering a country without a visa) should not be treated as illegal if a person is seeking asylum.

Even though, it is technically an "illegal act", they are not considered as having performed an illegal act.   The asylum seekers were detailed, Not because they have committed an illegal act, it is because, our law states that anyone arrived by boat, will be mandatorily detailed, for purpose of process their claims - e.g. health and background checks.   

So there is a difference.  Let me give you a few example:

1. A man arrives at Sydney airport, with no papers, and wanted to stealthly sneak his way in.  He then committed an illegal act.  So, he will be detained because of this illegal act. 
2. A man arrives at Christmas Island from boat with no papers.  But he declared that he is an asylum seeker.  Therefore under the Australian law, he have not yet committed an illegal act until or if his processing have failed.  He was detained because our current law states that anyone in his situation be mandatorily detained. 

UN treaty is not Australian law. This is where you are confused. No need for your "examples", its obvious you know little about this . Its not that hard to understand.
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Re Ian

Mmmm okay....  Smiley

Australian is a signatory to UN refugee convention.  Until we pull out of it, then as far as Australia law is concerned, the boat people have not committed an illegal act until / if when their processing have failed.
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ian wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 5:12pm:
are incarcerated, like the criminals they are.


They are detained for health, security, and identification checks.

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You got your butt handed to you yesterday on this. (again) They are detained for entering the country without valid entry documents or visas. If they were not committing an illegal activity then the government would have no legal right to detain them.. Not hard to understand really, even for a 12 year old. No surprise you still dont get it. I got to give it to you, you like getting your butt kicked. Now post a another picture and pretend you somehow "won" this non arguement again.


100% incorrect, as usual.

"It is not a crime to enter Australia without authorisation for the purpose of seeking asylum. Asylum seekers do not break any Australian laws simply by arriving on boats or without authorisation."


http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_L...

Too easy.

Try again another day, ian.
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greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 1:44am:
ian wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 5:12pm:
are incarcerated, like the criminals they are.


They are detained for health, security, and identification checks.

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You got your butt handed to you yesterday on this. (again) They are detained for entering the country without valid entry documents or visas. If they were not committing an illegal activity then the government would have no legal right to detain them.. Not hard to understand really, even for a 12 year old. No surprise you still dont get it. I got to give it to you, you like getting your butt kicked. Now post a another picture and pretend you somehow "won" this non arguement again.


100% incorrect, as usual.

"It is not a crime to enter Australia without authorisation for the purpose of seeking asylum. Asylum seekers do not break any Australian laws simply by arriving on boats or without authorisation."


http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_L...

Too easy.

Try again another day, ian.



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mothra wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 1:46am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 1:44am:
ian wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Valkie wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 5:12pm:
are incarcerated, like the criminals they are.


They are detained for health, security, and identification checks.

]

You got your butt handed to you yesterday on this. (again) They are detained for entering the country without valid entry documents or visas. If they were not committing an illegal activity then the government would have no legal right to detain them.. Not hard to understand really, even for a 12 year old. No surprise you still dont get it. I got to give it to you, you like getting your butt kicked. Now post a another picture and pretend you somehow "won" this non arguement again.


100% incorrect, as usual.

"It is not a crime to enter Australia without authorisation for the purpose of seeking asylum. Asylum seekers do not break any Australian laws simply by arriving on boats or without authorisation."


http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_L...

Too easy.

Try again another day, ian.



Correct.


It's amazing how little ian knows, about so many things.

He's certainly had his arse handed to him on this one.

Surely he must get sick of being wrong all the time.


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Ian is a troubled soul. If he knew twice as much as he claims to know he would still be dangerously intellectually bankrupt.
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I particularly like the argument that if they weren't doing something illegal, what right do we have to detain them.

What does he think we've all been saying these long years?
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Ian is a troubled soul. If he knew twice as much as he claims to know he would still be dangerously intellectually bankrupt.



ah.  more emotional outbursts aimed at ian .
you do keep going back to him seeking his attention over and over again.
this is always the case when the bratty girl meets an alpha male who she senses is "the champ"
she cant work out why she feels attraction but she just has to keep "at him" .
this falls into the topic of "why women fall for asshol*es", not that i think ian is an asshol*e, but Mothra does, yet she continues to engage with him over and over and over again.

the female seeking the comfort of being in the presense of an alpha male is there for all to see.

Ian may well be playing "push/pull" a very good technique.

women are very emotional creatures and they are as addicted to negative emotions as they are to positive emotions. (more they like a "range of emotions").

this topic (assylum seekers) is something that many women like mothra get all hot about, NOT because they care about assylum seekers at all, but because they are addicted to the emotions that these sort of arguements cause to flow thru them.
they love the emotional drama , as it "wakes them up".

they dont really care if its Joseph Koni or palestine or Naru.  its just an excuse to feel "something" to break out of the Durrr state of the non contributing leftard.

Leftards need to go to a place of contribution as a way to reach a more stable place of higher consciousness.
They could volunteer to go out and help homeless people or do something practical.

But this does not give the buzz of a full on Us v Them emotional outburst and it requires effort and commitment.

far easier to get your little hits of emotional heroin on an internet forum. Wink
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I see a little bromance blossoming here.


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greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:04am:
I see a little bromance blossoming here.


https://exposedd.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/ugly-men.jpg



gweg,  you have a good brain but you need to put it to use to achieve something more worthy then seeking little hits of stimulation from strangers on the internet.

i think this is why i associate with rightards (though i would consider buddhists and sherpas more spiritually enlightened).

becuase a rightard is generally someone who has gone thru brutal training and has come to realise that things dont happen "to" you, things happen "for" you.

to survive in business, you do have to grow into this emotionally more advanced mindset.

the mindset of the leftard is still very much, life it happening "to" me. i am a "victim" . i need to be a cry baby  about bullying or penalty rates or discrimination or minimum wage or police brutality or israel or border policy.....whenever i hear leftards talk on these topics, its just


cry baby
poor me
help me
please help me

and its really quite pathetic.

there is the path of the superior man and you cannot walk that path til you give up the failed , low consciousness mindset of the left.

sure its comfortable to "associate" with "pain".
But its even better to use pain and lessons as fuel to burn to drive you to the next level.

Man up sunshine  Wink Wink
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aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:14am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:04am:
I see a little bromance blossoming here.


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greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:17am:
aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:14am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:04am:
I see a little bromance blossoming here.


https://exposedd.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/ugly-men.jpg



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i am challenging you to read Ekhardt Tolles bestseller
A New Earth...and to renounce the devil that is low consciousness hateful emotional leftard ideology  Cheesy Cheesy
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aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:01am:
mothra wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 2:11am:
Ian is a troubled soul. If he knew twice as much as he claims to know he would still be dangerously intellectually bankrupt.



ah.  more emotional outbursts aimed at ian .
you do keep going back to him seeking his attention over and over again.
this is always the case when the bratty girl meets an alpha male who she senses is "the champ"
she cant work out why she feels attraction but she just has to keep "at him" .
this falls into the topic of "why women fall for asshol*es", not that i think ian is an asshol*e, but Mothra does, yet she continues to engage with him over and over and over again.

the female seeking the comfort of being in the presense of an alpha male is there for all to see.

Ian may well be playing "push/pull" a very good technique.

women are very emotional creatures and they are as addicted to negative emotions as they are to positive emotions. (more they like a "range of emotions").

this topic (assylum seekers) is something that many women like mothra get all hot about, NOT because they care about assylum seekers at all, but because they are addicted to the emotions that these sort of arguements cause to flow thru them.
they love the emotional drama , as it "wakes them up".

they dont really care if its Joseph Koni or palestine or Naru.  its just an excuse to feel "something" to break out of the Durrr state of the non contributing leftard.

Leftards need to go to a place of contribution as a way to reach a more stable place of higher consciousness.
They could volunteer to go out and help homeless people or do something practical.

But this does not give the buzz of a full on Us v Them emotional outburst and it requires effort and commitment.

far easier to get your little hits of emotional heroin on an internet forum. Wink



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The teenager told police her attacker as being "Indian or Sub-Continental" in appearance, about 30 years old, 180 centimetres tall, with an average build and short black hair........


I can't believe it. They gave a description. They only do that when it's a white perp. Amazing!!


Heads will roll for this disgusting oversight in PC protocol. A sub-editor at media headquarters was sleeping on the job and let this racist! indiscretion slip through the net.

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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:32am:
aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:01am:
mothra wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 2:11am:
Ian is a troubled soul. If he knew twice as much as he claims to know he would still be dangerously intellectually bankrupt.



ah.  more emotional outbursts aimed at ian .
you do keep going back to him seeking his attention over and over again.
this is always the case when the bratty girl meets an alpha male who she senses is "the champ"
she cant work out why she feels attraction but she just has to keep "at him" .
this falls into the topic of "why women fall for asshol*es", not that i think ian is an asshol*e, but Mothra does, yet she continues to engage with him over and over and over again.

the female seeking the comfort of being in the presense of an alpha male is there for all to see.

Ian may well be playing "push/pull" a very good technique.

women are very emotional creatures and they are as addicted to negative emotions as they are to positive emotions. (more they like a "range of emotions").

this topic (assylum seekers) is something that many women like mothra get all hot about, NOT because they care about assylum seekers at all, but because they are addicted to the emotions that these sort of arguements cause to flow thru them.
they love the emotional drama , as it "wakes them up".

they dont really care if its Joseph Koni or palestine or Naru.  its just an excuse to feel "something" to break out of the Durrr state of the non contributing leftard.

Leftards need to go to a place of contribution as a way to reach a more stable place of higher consciousness.
They could volunteer to go out and help homeless people or do something practical.

But this does not give the buzz of a full on Us v Them emotional outburst and it requires effort and commitment.

far easier to get your little hits of emotional heroin on an internet forum. Wink



Nailed IT..


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Well, it would be correct in many other countries like North Korea.  But here in Australia, we have this tiny thing in the legal system, and that is:

You are innocent until proven guilty.   Smiley


Wrong! You have been sadly misinformed.  Smiley

There is a little thing called Presumption of Guilt which the police are empowered to assume WAY before the arrested party is marched into a court of law. If this wasn't so, then every arrested person who is ultimately judged to be innocent would be successfully suing the socks off the Police Department for wrongful arrest.

Boat people appearing in Australian sovereign waters are correctly deemed to be Illegal Immigrants until such time as they declare themselves to be seeking asylum from persecution. Until that moment, they ARE invaders of Australia's sovereign territory ...

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aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:14am:
gweg,  you have a good brain but you need to put it to use to achieve something more worthy then seeking little hits of stimulation from strangers on the internet.


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You're good enough to bottle, Aquascoot! Someone should syndicate you for broader publication. A much wider audience - all the way to Colorado and beyond.
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tickleandrose wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:40pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:31pm:
tickleandrose wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:15pm:
Then, let me give you a quick lesson in modern law. 

The UN Refugee Convention (to which Australia is a signatory) recognises that refugees have a lawful right to enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum, regardless of how they arrive or whether they hold valid travel or identity documents. The Convention stipulates that what would usually be considered as illegal actions (e.g. entering a country without a visa) should not be treated as illegal if a person is seeking asylum.



Correct!

But then by the same token every claimant who is found not to be a genuine refugee is therefore, ipso facto, an illegal migrant.

Correct?

Claiming 'refugee status' does not in itself automatically confer upon that person the right NOT to be regarded as an illegal immigrant.

Every last one of those people coming across from Indonesia in boats was righfully regarded as 'illegal immigrants' until proved not to be so.



Well, it would be correct in many other countries like North Korea.  But here in Australia, we have this tiny thing in the legal system, and that is:

You are innocent until proven guilty.   Smiley



Unless of course you drive past a speed camera.
Then you are guilty until you prove your innocence.


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Boat people appearing in Australian sovereign waters are correctly deemed to be Illegal Immigrants until such time as they declare themselves to be seeking asylum from persecution.


No, they aren't.

Not even close.
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tickleandrose wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:40pm:
Well, it would be correct in many other countries like North Korea.  But here in Australia, we have this tiny thing in the legal system, and that is:

You are innocent until proven guilty.   Smiley


Wrong! You have been sadly misinformed.  Smiley

There is a little thing called Presumption of Guilt which the police are empowered to assume WAY before the arrested party is marched into a court of law. If this wasn't so, then every arrested person who is ultimately judged to be innocent would be successfully suing the socks off the Police Department for wrongful arrest.

Boat people appearing in Australian sovereign waters are correctly deemed to be Illegal Immigrants until such time as they declare themselves to be seeking asylum from persecution. Until that moment, they ARE invaders of Australia's sovereign territory ...

Smiley


In Australia, our legal system is quiet robust.  There is this thing called wrongful arrest. 

Examples of an unlawful arrest may include

    Being arrested for possession of a small amount of prohibited drug
    Being acquitted of an offence where Police didn't properly investigate a matter before arresting
    Being arrested and then being released after processing without being given any bail conditions
    Being asked to come down to the station for a "chat" and then going down voluntarily and then being arrested when you get there
    Presenting yourself at the station after a Police Officer leaves a message for you to contact them
    Being arrested for no reason at all, other than failing the "attitude test"
    Being arrested so Police can interview you
    Being arrested so the Police can identify you
    Being arrested even though the Police know who you are and where you live, and Court proceedings could have been started by serving a Court Attendance Notice rather than by arrest and charging.
    Excessive force being used during the arrest which otherwise might have been lawful.
    Being arrested because Police mistakenly thought there was a warrant out for your arrest.
    Being arrested days or weeks after an event, with no concern for victims or witnesses

And yes, if wrongful arrest or detention occurs, and the victim can demonstrate material damages, then they are entitled to compensation.   Well, at least this is our legal system currently.

Well, lets do a little role play involving Mr Herbert   Smiley

Its a lazy Sunday morning, when Mr Herbert was awoke from his dreams of how he wanted to deem all asylum seekers illegal.  He was about to smile in victory when the front door to his home got bust down, and next thing he knew it, he was talking to a police officer across the interview table.

Herbert: why am I here?  you have no right! 

Police: you know what you have done Mr Herbert!  Now fess it up!

Herbert: this is rediculous!  I havent done anything.

Police: Last night, a lady was murdered in <generic suburb>, and her body parts were found this morning in <generic suburb>.   

Herbert: so? That doesnt prove anything!

Police: We got records from the mobile phone companies.  You are one of 5 people whose mobile phone had passed through the relevant phone towers.   So, you have 20% chance that you are guilty!

Herbert: But this is absurd.  I am innocent.

Police: In Australia, you are presumed guilty until proven otherwise!  Now, you will be transported to a detention camp in Alice Spring, until we can find out that you are innocent, we cannot let you back on the streets.

Herbert: for how long.... (he choked back his shock and despair)

Police: for until you are found innocent. 
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Well done, Tickles!

After a severe beating by several Muslims in the Alice Springs Detention Centre because I wouldn't convert - I thought I'd better confess to the murder and be taken back to Sydney where I would be protected against Muslims carving ISIS messages on my forehead.

I'm currently awaiting trial at the Silverwater Remand Centre.  Tongue
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Wink Worry not Mr Herbert.  I will be outside with my friends picketing for your release.    Wink
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still illegals

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aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:01am:
mothra wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 2:11am:
Ian is a troubled soul. If he knew twice as much as he claims to know he would still be dangerously intellectually bankrupt.



ah.  more emotional outbursts aimed at ian .
you do keep going back to him seeking his attention over and over again.
this is always the case when the bratty girl meets an alpha male who she senses is "the champ"
she cant work out why she feels attraction but she just has to keep "at him" .
this falls into the topic of "why women fall for asshol*es", not that i think ian is an asshol*e, but Mjjjothra does, yet she continues to engage with him over and over and over again.

the female seeking the comfort of being in the presense of an alpha male is there for all to see.

Ian may well be playing "push/pull" a very good technique.

women are very emotional creatures and they are as addicted to negative emotions as they are to positive emotions. (more they like a "range of emotions").

this topic (assylum seekers) is something that many women like mothra get all hot about, NOT because they care about assylum seekers at all, but because they are addicted to the emotions that these sort of arguements cause to flow thru them.
they love the emotional drama , as it "wakes them up".

they dont really care if its Joseph Koni or palestine or Naru.  its just an excuse to feel "something" to break out of the Durrr state of the non contributing leftard.

Leftards need to go to a place of contribution as a way to reach a more stable place of higher consciousness.
They could volunteer to go out and help homeless people or do something practical.

But this does not give the buzz of a full on Us v Them emotional outburst and it requires effort and commitment.

far easier to get your little hits of emotional heroin on an internet forum. Wink



Just so you know, I didn't bother reading that.

I read the first paragraph and quickly realised it was a load of horse poo.

I'll just bet horse boy is a virgin. No idea about women at all.
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mothra wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 7:25pm:
Just so you know, I didn't bother reading that.

I read the first paragraph and quickly realised it was a load of horse poo.

I'll just bet horse boy is a virgin. No idea about women at all.


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I think she wants you to mount her, Aquascoot. Ride her around the bedroom paddock, so to speak. Teach her who's boss. That's where she's coming from. She wants to feel your stirrups digging into her flanks as you shout "YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA... !" while waving your sweat-stained bush hat in the air.



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Lord Herbert wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:35pm:
mothra wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 7:25pm:
Just so you know, I didn't bother reading that.

I read the first paragraph and quickly realised it was a load of horse poo.

I'll just bet horse boy is a virgin. No idea about women at all.


Grin Grin Grin

I think she wants you to mount her, Aquascoot. Ride her around the bedroom paddock, so to speak. Teach her who's boss. That's where she's coming from. She wants to feel your stirrups digging into her flanks as you shout "YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA... !" while waving your sweat-stained bush hat in the air.





Or she may just want to debate politics on an Internet forum without it being assumed she is here seeking the attention of the forum males.
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Mistress Nicole wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:55pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:35pm:
mothra wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 7:25pm:
Just so you know, I didn't bother reading that.

I read the first paragraph and quickly realised it was a load of horse poo.

I'll just bet horse boy is a virgin. No idea about women at all.


Grin Grin Grin

I think she wants you to mount her, Aquascoot. Ride her around the bedroom paddock, so to speak. Teach her who's boss. That's where she's coming from. She wants to feel your stirrups digging into her flanks as you shout "YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA... !" while waving your sweat-stained bush hat in the air.





Or she may just want to debate politics on an Internet forum without it being assumed she is here seeking the attention of the forum males.


Grin Grin Grin

Mothra has had a long-time crush on Aquascoot because she wishes he would horse around with HER instead of those four-legged ones he works with.

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Lord Herbert wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 9:14pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:55pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 8:35pm:
mothra wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 7:25pm:
Just so you know, I didn't bother reading that.

I read the first paragraph and quickly realised it was a load of horse poo.

I'll just bet horse boy is a virgin. No idea about women at all.


Grin Grin Grin

I think she wants you to mount her, Aquascoot. Ride her around the bedroom paddock, so to speak. Teach her who's boss. That's where she's coming from. She wants to feel your stirrups digging into her flanks as you shout "YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA... !" while waving your sweat-stained bush hat in the air.





Or she may just want to debate politics on an Internet forum without it being assumed she is here seeking the attention of the forum males.


Grin Grin Grin

Mothra has had a long-time crush on Aquascoot because she wishes he would horse around with HER instead of those four-legged ones he works with.

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Boat people appearing in Australian sovereign waters are correctly deemed to be Illegal Immigrants until such time as they declare themselves to be seeking asylum from persecution. Until that moment, they ARE invaders of Australia's sovereign territory ...

Smiley


Close herb, under the immigration act  they are detained because of their illegal entry into Australia. If they request asylum they are allowed to be detained until their refugee status is determined. What allows them to  continue to be legally detained (this has been challenged in the high court)  is the fact of their illegal entry.
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The teenager told police her attacker as being "Indian or Sub-Continental" in appearance, about 30 years old, 180 centimetres tall, with an average build and short black hair.



Hang em and hang em high.




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I particularly like the argument that if they weren't doing something illegal, what right do we have to detain them.

What does he think we've all been saying these long years?

Im not arguing, Im stating. There is no argument , if there was their Australian taxpayer funded legal teams would use it to have them out of detention within 5 minutes.
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ian wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:28pm:
mothra wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 2:15am:
I particularly like the argument that if they weren't doing something illegal, what right do we have to detain them.

What does he think we've all been saying these long years?

Im not arguing, Im stating. There is no argument , if there was their Australian taxpayer funded legal teams would use it to have them out of detention within 5 minutes.


Oh My God
You advocate Australia taking every deadbeat, poorly educated, religiously twisted, retard that has been kicked out of their cesspits into Australia just because they can??????????

Surely we, as taxpayers, have the right to say no to this influx of parasites that destroy our culture in the name of a devil worshiping cult?

If there was a referendum, there would be no more, but the piss weak politicians have to play the UN game and put Australians at risk so that they can look good.
They never see the parasites because they are nowhere near where they live.

Give the people a voice.
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Give the people a voice.
Put forward a referendum and lets see what happens.


For decades now, starting in the schools, a culture of anti-nationalist self-abnegation through mass-immigration of people who do not resemble Westerners in any shape or form has been tirelessly lectured into the public consciousness by teachers, politicians, academics, media commentators, professional social engineers, the 'Arts' crowd - and from the ordinary committed Leftwingers who live amongst us in the suburbs.

To oppose the destruction of the 'British' Australia that existed before the post-war mass-immigrations is enough cause to be hissed and boo-ed at by these new generations of Anglo-Celtics who have been carefully coached to react in such a way.

Any referendum wouldn't have the remotest chance of showing a majority wanting a stop to Muslim immigration, or any other kind of immigration.

The Labor Party is ahead in the polls, fercrissake!  Grin Grin Grin The public is an idiot that doesn't learn from history or even the lessons of commonsense.
   
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Lord Herbert wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 6:29pm:
Valkie wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 5:54pm:
Give the people a voice.
Put forward a referendum and lets see what happens.


For decades now, starting in the schools, a culture of anti-nationalist self-abnegation through mass-immigration of people who do not resemble Westerners in any shape or form has been tirelessly lectured into the public consciousness by teachers, politicians, academics, media commentators, professional social engineers, the 'Arts' crowd - and from the ordinary committed Leftwingers who live amongst us in the suburbs.

To oppose the destruction of the 'British' Australia that existed before the post-war mass-immigrations is enough cause to be hissed and boo-ed at by these new generations of Anglo-Celtics who have been carefully coached to react in such a way.

Any referendum wouldn't have the remotest chance of showing a majority want a stop to Muslim immigration, or any other kind of immigration.

The Labor Party is ahead in the polls, fercrissake!  Grin Grin Grin The public is an idiot that doesn't learn from history or even the lessons of commonsense.
   



There is no hope then.

we is doomed,
DOOMED
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DOOMED I tell you


Guess Ill just have to play the system and live life easy and expect everyone else to pay for me and mine.

Dont think Ill bother working anymore
Just live off the dole and find ways to screw the system,

Whats that you say?....... Bludger?.......That's insulting and racist.
What? .......You think I'm a parasite?..........That's discrimination based on age and socioeconomic situation.
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Valkie wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 5:54pm:
Give the people a voice.
Put forward a referendum and lets see what happens.


For decades now, starting in the schools, a culture of anti-nationalist self-abnegation through mass-immigration of people who do not resemble Westerners in any shape or form has been tirelessly lectured into the public consciousness by teachers, politicians, academics, media commentators, professional social engineers, the 'Arts' crowd - and from the ordinary committed Leftwingers who live amongst us in the suburbs.

To oppose the destruction of the 'British' Australia that existed before the post-war mass-immigrations is enough cause to be hissed and boo-ed at by these new generations of Anglo-Celtics who have been carefully coached to react in such a way.

Any referendum wouldn't have the remotest chance of showing a majority want a stop to Muslim immigration, or any other kind of immigration.

The Labor Party is ahead in the polls, fercrissake!  Grin Grin Grin The public is an idiot that doesn't learn from history or even the lessons of commonsense.
   



it is an odd situation Herb and one must wonder what is driving it.

certainly china, japan , south korea, singapore do not seem to feel the need for mass immigration .
And a country like Japan probably needs it !!!.

They always say you should follow the money.

I think in the USA  it is about cheap labour for business and in other western countries it is to do with keeping the economy ticking over by more housing, contruction spending etc.

what is odd is that the lefties are so supportive of this.

Big Business is benefitting.
The poor are being squeezed as services must be shared amongst a much larger pool and
the environment must be getting degraded by urban sprawl, more need for polluting construction and destruction of habitat.

I dont think they realise they are being "played"

i have no real problem with migrants as , if they come from a poor country , they may well be willing to work their ass*es off.
But the universal approval of this by lefties is peculiar.
I cant quite get into their heads to see what emotional buttons this is pushing.  Freud needs to sit them down and analyse them deeply and get back to us  Wink
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aquascoot wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:09am:
Lord Herbert wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 6:29pm:
Valkie wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 5:54pm:
Give the people a voice.
Put forward a referendum and lets see what happens.


For decades now, starting in the schools, a culture of anti-nationalist self-abnegation through mass-immigration of people who do not resemble Westerners in any shape or form has been tirelessly lectured into the public consciousness by teachers, politicians, academics, media commentators, professional social engineers, the 'Arts' crowd - and from the ordinary committed Leftwingers who live amongst us in the suburbs.

To oppose the destruction of the 'British' Australia that existed before the post-war mass-immigrations is enough cause to be hissed and boo-ed at by these new generations of Anglo-Celtics who have been carefully coached to react in such a way.

Any referendum wouldn't have the remotest chance of showing a majority want a stop to Muslim immigration, or any other kind of immigration.

The Labor Party is ahead in the polls, fercrissake!  Grin Grin Grin The public is an idiot that doesn't learn from history or even the lessons of commonsense.
   



it is an odd situation Herb and one must wonder what is driving it.

certainly china, japan , south korea, singapore do not seem to feel the need for mass immigration .
And a country like Japan probably needs it !!!.

They always say you should follow the money.

I think in the USA  it is about cheap labour for business and in other western countries it is to do with keeping the economy ticking over by more housing, contruction spending etc.

what is odd is that the lefties are so supportive of this.

Big Business is benefitting.
The poor are being squeezed as services must be shared amongst a much larger pool and
the environment must be getting degraded by urban sprawl, more need for polluting construction and destruction of habitat.

I dont think they realise they are being "played"

i have no real problem with migrants as , if they come from a poor country , they may well be willing to work their ass*es off.
But the universal approval of this by lefties is peculiar.
I cant quite get into their heads to see what emotional buttons this is pushing.  Freud needs to sit them down and analyse them deeply and get back to us  Wink
I agree with every word you wrote auqa. It's foolish to underestimate the power of social cohesion. It will bite Australia in the ass the way it is biting all multicultural countries in the ass right now.
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I agree with every word you wrote auqa. It's foolish to underestimate the power of social cohesion.


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Mr Hammer wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:18am:
I agree with every word you wrote auqa. It's foolish to underestimate the power of social cohesion.


What a pathetic sycophantic wretch. Grow a set! [/quote]Aqua is a great poster Indian Boy. You on the other hand are a racist knob head.
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Aqua is a great poster.


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Mr Hammer wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:35am:
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Freud needs to sit them down and analyse them deeply and get back to us  Wink


Freud said every neurotic impulse has its source in the bedroom ...

Maybe Mothra and Marla just aren't getting enough like codsey-baby who's WAY to the Right on most issues .... Kiss
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