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Reply #75 - May 29^th, 2016 at 9:11am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 8:32am:

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 8:01am:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 2:11am:

Ian is a troubled soul. If he knew twice as much as he claims to know he would still be dangerously intellectually bankrupt.

ah. more emotional outbursts aimed at ian .
you do keep going back to him seeking his attention over and over again.
this is always the case when the bratty girl meets an alpha male who she senses is "the champ"
she cant work out why she feels attraction but she just has to keep "at him" .
this falls into the topic of "why women fall for asshol*es", not that i think ian is an asshol*e, but Mothra does, yet she continues to engage with him over and over and over again.

the female seeking the comfort of being in the presense of an alpha male is there for all to see.

Ian may well be playing "push/pull" a very good technique.

women are very emotional creatures and they are as addicted to negative emotions as they are to positive emotions. (more they like a "range of emotions").

this topic (assylum seekers) is something that many women like mothra get all hot about, NOT because they care about assylum seekers at all, but because they are addicted to the emotions that these sort of arguements cause to flow thru them.
they love the emotional drama , as it "wakes them up".

they dont really care if its Joseph Koni or palestine or Naru. its just an excuse to feel "something" to break out of the Durrr state of the non contributing leftard.

Leftards need to go to a place of contribution as a way to reach a more stable place of higher consciousness.
They could volunteer to go out and help homeless people or do something practical.

But this does not give the buzz of a full on Us v Them emotional outburst and it requires effort and commitment.

far easier to get your little hits of emotional heroin on an internet forum. Wink

Nailed IT..

I think Aquascoot's ready to have his own Dr Phil Midday show here in Australia!

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Reply #76 - May 29^th, 2016 at 9:23am

tickleandrose wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Well, it would be correct in many other countries like North Korea. But here in Australia, we have this tiny thing in the legal system, and that is:

You are innocent until proven guilty.

Wrong! You have been sadly misinformed.

There is a little thing called Presumption of Guilt which the police are empowered to assume WAY before the arrested party is marched into a court of law. If this wasn't so, then every arrested person who is ultimately judged to be innocent would be successfully suing the socks off the Police Department for wrongful arrest.

Boat people appearing in Australian sovereign waters are correctly deemed to be Illegal Immigrants until such time as they declare themselves to be seeking asylum from persecution. Until that moment, they ARE invaders of Australia's sovereign territory ...

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Reply #77 - May 29^th, 2016 at 9:33am

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 8:14am:

gweg, you have a good brain but you need to put it to use to achieve something more worthy then seeking little hits of stimulation from strangers on the internet.

You're good enough to bottle, Aquascoot! Someone should syndicate you for broader publication. A much wider audience - all the way to Colorado and beyond.

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Reply #78 - May 29^th, 2016 at 9:42am

tickleandrose wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

tickleandrose wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

Then, let me give you a quick lesson in modern law.

The UN Refugee Convention (to which Australia is a signatory) recognises that refugees have a lawful right to enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum, regardless of how they arrive or whether they hold valid travel or identity documents. The Convention stipulates that what would usually be considered as illegal actions (e.g. entering a country without a visa) should not be treated as illegal if a person is seeking asylum.

Correct!

But then by the same token every claimant who is found not to be a genuine refugee is therefore, ipso facto, an illegal migrant.

Correct?

Claiming 'refugee status' does not in itself automatically confer upon that person the right NOT to be regarded as an illegal immigrant.

Every last one of those people coming across from Indonesia in boats was righfully regarded as 'illegal immigrants' until proved not to be so.

Well, it would be correct in many other countries like North Korea. But here in Australia, we have this tiny thing in the legal system, and that is:

You are innocent until proven guilty.

Unless of course you drive past a speed camera.
Then you are guilty until you prove your innocence.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150961 Gender:	Re: Sydney girl assaulted on busy train Reply #79 - May 29^th, 2016 at 9:44am Lord Herbert wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 9:23am: Boat people appearing in Australian sovereign waters are correctly deemed to be Illegal Immigrants until such time as they declare themselves to be seeking asylum from persecution. No, they aren't. Not even close.
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Reply #80 - May 29^th, 2016 at 11:25am

Lord Herbert wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 9:23am:

tickleandrose wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Well, it would be correct in many other countries like North Korea. But here in Australia, we have this tiny thing in the legal system, and that is:

You are innocent until proven guilty.

Wrong! You have been sadly misinformed.

There is a little thing called Presumption of Guilt which the police are empowered to assume WAY before the arrested party is marched into a court of law. If this wasn't so, then every arrested person who is ultimately judged to be innocent would be successfully suing the socks off the Police Department for wrongful arrest.

Boat people appearing in Australian sovereign waters are correctly deemed to be Illegal Immigrants until such time as they declare themselves to be seeking asylum from persecution. Until that moment, they ARE invaders of Australia's sovereign territory ...

In Australia, our legal system is quiet robust. There is this thing called wrongful arrest.

Examples of an unlawful arrest may include

Being arrested for possession of a small amount of prohibited drug
Being acquitted of an offence where Police didn't properly investigate a matter before arresting
Being arrested and then being released after processing without being given any bail conditions
Being asked to come down to the station for a "chat" and then going down voluntarily and then being arrested when you get there
Presenting yourself at the station after a Police Officer leaves a message for you to contact them
Being arrested for no reason at all, other than failing the "attitude test"
Being arrested so Police can interview you
Being arrested so the Police can identify you
Being arrested even though the Police know who you are and where you live, and Court proceedings could have been started by serving a Court Attendance Notice rather than by arrest and charging.
Excessive force being used during the arrest which otherwise might have been lawful.
Being arrested because Police mistakenly thought there was a warrant out for your arrest.
Being arrested days or weeks after an event, with no concern for victims or witnesses

And yes, if wrongful arrest or detention occurs, and the victim can demonstrate material damages, then they are entitled to compensation. Well, at least this is our legal system currently.

Well, lets do a little role play involving Mr Herbert

Its a lazy Sunday morning, when Mr Herbert was awoke from his dreams of how he wanted to deem all asylum seekers illegal. He was about to smile in victory when the front door to his home got bust down, and next thing he knew it, he was talking to a police officer across the interview table.

Herbert: why am I here? you have no right!

Police: you know what you have done Mr Herbert! Now fess it up!

Herbert: this is rediculous! I havent done anything.

Police: Last night, a lady was murdered in <generic suburb>, and her body parts were found this morning in <generic suburb>.

Herbert: so? That doesnt prove anything!

Police: We got records from the mobile phone companies. You are one of 5 people whose mobile phone had passed through the relevant phone towers. So, you have 20% chance that you are guilty!

Herbert: But this is absurd. I am innocent.

Police: In Australia, you are presumed guilty until proven otherwise! Now, you will be transported to a detention camp in Alice Spring, until we can find out that you are innocent, we cannot let you back on the streets.

Herbert: for how long.... (he choked back his shock and despair)

Police: for until you are found innocent.

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Re: Sydney girl assaulted on busy train
Reply #81 - May 29^th, 2016 at 11:38am

Well done, Tickles!

After a severe beating by several Muslims in the Alice Springs Detention Centre because I wouldn't convert - I thought I'd better confess to the murder and be taken back to Sydney where I would be protected against Muslims carving ISIS messages on my forehead.

I'm currently awaiting trial at the Silverwater Remand Centre. Tongue

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tickleandrose Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4201 Gender:	Re: Sydney girl assaulted on busy train Reply #82 - May 29^th, 2016 at 11:46am Worry not Mr Herbert. I will be outside with my friends picketing for your release.
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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16179 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Sydney girl assaulted on busy train Reply #83 - May 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm still illegals dont want em
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Reply #84 - May 29^th, 2016 at 7:25pm

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 8:01am:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 2:11am:

Ian is a troubled soul. If he knew twice as much as he claims to know he would still be dangerously intellectually bankrupt.

ah. more emotional outbursts aimed at ian .
you do keep going back to him seeking his attention over and over again.
this is always the case when the bratty girl meets an alpha male who she senses is "the champ"
she cant work out why she feels attraction but she just has to keep "at him" .
this falls into the topic of "why women fall for asshol*es", not that i think ian is an asshol*e, but Mjjjothra does, yet she continues to engage with him over and over and over again.

the female seeking the comfort of being in the presense of an alpha male is there for all to see.

Ian may well be playing "push/pull" a very good technique.

women are very emotional creatures and they are as addicted to negative emotions as they are to positive emotions. (more they like a "range of emotions").

this topic (assylum seekers) is something that many women like mothra get all hot about, NOT because they care about assylum seekers at all, but because they are addicted to the emotions that these sort of arguements cause to flow thru them.
they love the emotional drama , as it "wakes them up".

they dont really care if its Joseph Koni or palestine or Naru. its just an excuse to feel "something" to break out of the Durrr state of the non contributing leftard.

Leftards need to go to a place of contribution as a way to reach a more stable place of higher consciousness.
They could volunteer to go out and help homeless people or do something practical.

But this does not give the buzz of a full on Us v Them emotional outburst and it requires effort and commitment.

far easier to get your little hits of emotional heroin on an internet forum. Wink

Just so you know, I didn't bother reading that.

I read the first paragraph and quickly realised it was a load of horse poo.

I'll just bet horse boy is a virgin. No idea about women at all.

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Reply #85 - May 29^th, 2016 at 8:35pm

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Just so you know, I didn't bother reading that.

I read the first paragraph and quickly realised it was a load of horse poo.

I'll just bet horse boy is a virgin. No idea about women at all.

I think she wants you to mount her, Aquascoot. Ride her around the bedroom paddock, so to speak. Teach her who's boss. That's where she's coming from. She wants to feel your stirrups digging into her flanks as you shout "YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA... !" while waving your sweat-stained bush hat in the air.

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Reply #86 - May 29^th, 2016 at 8:55pm

Lord Herbert wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 8:35pm:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Just so you know, I didn't bother reading that.

I read the first paragraph and quickly realised it was a load of horse poo.

I'll just bet horse boy is a virgin. No idea about women at all.

I think she wants you to mount her, Aquascoot. Ride her around the bedroom paddock, so to speak. Teach her who's boss. That's where she's coming from. She wants to feel your stirrups digging into her flanks as you shout "YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA... !" while waving your sweat-stained bush hat in the air.

Or she may just want to debate politics on an Internet forum without it being assumed she is here seeking the attention of the forum males.

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Reply #87 - May 29^th, 2016 at 9:14pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 8:55pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 8:35pm:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Just so you know, I didn't bother reading that.

I read the first paragraph and quickly realised it was a load of horse poo.

I'll just bet horse boy is a virgin. No idea about women at all.

I think she wants you to mount her, Aquascoot. Ride her around the bedroom paddock, so to speak. Teach her who's boss. That's where she's coming from. She wants to feel your stirrups digging into her flanks as you shout "YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA... !" while waving your sweat-stained bush hat in the air.

Or she may just want to debate politics on an Internet forum without it being assumed she is here seeking the attention of the forum males.

Mothra has had a long-time crush on Aquascoot because she wishes he would horse around with HER instead of those four-legged ones he works with.

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Reply #88 - May 29^th, 2016 at 9:19pm

Lord Herbert wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 9:14pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 8:55pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 8:35pm:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Just so you know, I didn't bother reading that.

I read the first paragraph and quickly realised it was a load of horse poo.

I'll just bet horse boy is a virgin. No idea about women at all.

I think she wants you to mount her, Aquascoot. Ride her around the bedroom paddock, so to speak. Teach her who's boss. That's where she's coming from. She wants to feel your stirrups digging into her flanks as you shout "YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA... !" while waving your sweat-stained bush hat in the air.

Or she may just want to debate politics on an Internet forum without it being assumed she is here seeking the attention of the forum males.

Mothra has had a long-time crush on Aquascoot because she wishes he would horse around with HER instead of those four-legged ones he works with.

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Reply #89 - May 29^th, 2016 at 9:53pm

Lord Herbert wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 9:23am:

Boat people appearing in Australian sovereign waters are correctly deemed to be Illegal Immigrants until such time as they declare themselves to be seeking asylum from persecution. Until that moment, they ARE invaders of Australia's sovereign territory ...

Close herb, under the immigration act they are detained because of their illegal entry into Australia. If they request asylum they are allowed to be detained until their refugee status is determined. What allows them to continue to be legally detained (this has been challenged in the high court) is the fact of their illegal entry.

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