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Re: Being poor means being unhealthy
Reply #15 - May 24th, 2016 at 6:16am
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 5:26am:
John Smith wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 9:34pm:
what is it with rightards and the continuous bombardment opinions from columnists from the smelle and the Australian?

you realise some dickheads opinion is not fact, right?



But it is an opinion based on fact.

But if you can provide your facts that show inter-generational welfare grubs are fine up standing citizens that provide a positive contribution to society, Ill be more than happy to read it.

It shouldn't take long, should it?  Grin Grin Grin Grin


The poor are poor, because they are also very stupid and lazy, but the one thing they do know, is someone else will pay.






a guy not that old started sitting at the front of my local woollies cap on the ground and a cardboard note asking for change I left my $2...then two weeks later there he was again...exact same note..and hat...I usually leave my donation on the way out...this time with 11 yr old grandson in tow.. I noticed a couple of things...so I just kept walking.. no donation this time.. when driving away grandson said did you notice he had a mobile phone... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.. yes I did plus the bottle of gatorade...for all I know he had a nice car in the car park....its like the guy at the traffic lights wanting to wash my windscreen... usually with a fag in his face.... if those are your priorities then you can count me out...


I think we have just as many bad managers/poor decision makers.......... as we do poor people to be honest.....
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Reply #16 - May 24th, 2016 at 6:17am
 
Being poor means being unhealthy

Yes the poor can not afford to be healthy or educated
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Reply #17 - May 24th, 2016 at 7:22am
 
No one in australia is poor by historical standards.
They would be in the top .0001 % of people to have ever been born on planet earth.

But everybodies life is either going up a little or down a little every day.

people think success is due to some talent, or being born into good circumstances or due to luck.

But success is just a decision and a habit.

Most people dont make these decisions to be successful because the ego likes to stay where it is...there is fear of the unknown.
this is called a limiting belief or a success barrier and humans are riddled with them.
In fact, if you are in a family of people with poor diets and poor motivation and you start to eat kale and chicken salads and go to the gym and do night school, your family and friends will probably try to get you to stop....whats up with you?, think youre better then us?
you vegetarian poof!!.

This is the collective ego of success barriers and inertia.

But anyone who wants to can become successful in australia.

eat well
go to the gym
read extensively
develop a positive mindset
only allow positive people into your life
cut contact with negative neurotics
be persistent
embrace problems
approach everyone with a spirit of contribution
in every interaction, add value,
never leech off people
no complaining
no victim mentality
no using others as your emotional tampon.


every one of these actions requires effort and commitment.

if you dont want to do it, this is your call, you will have

Messed Up.

but you dont need to change countries.
Just change your own personal philosophy and it will all change for you.

Or, cower in the corner and cover yourself with a sheet and the government will bring you 3 meals a day and you can live a long and boring and pitiful life.

Your call  Wink
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Reply #18 - May 24th, 2016 at 7:40am
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 5:26am:
But it is an opinion based on fact.


ohhh, is it? where are his sources? Or is he, like you, making up the facts to suit his bias?

BigOl64 wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 5:26am:
But if you can provide your facts that show inter-generational welfare grubs are fine up standing citizens that provide a positive contribution to society, Ill be more than happy to read it.



no problem, right after you show some facts to prove your brain actually works. In all my years of posting on here I've yet to see any evidence that it does.
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Reply #19 - May 24th, 2016 at 8:07am
 
Dnarever wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 6:17am:
Being poor means being unhealthy


But doesn't being poor also mean that you can't afford to drink or smoke?
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Reply #20 - May 24th, 2016 at 8:37am
 
John Smith wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 7:40am:
BigOl64 wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 5:26am:
But it is an opinion based on fact.


ohhh, is it? where are his sources? Or is he, like you, making up the facts to suit his bias?

BigOl64 wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 5:26am:
But if you can provide your facts that show inter-generational welfare grubs are fine up standing citizens that provide a positive contribution to society, Ill be more than happy to read it.



no problem, right after you show some facts to prove your brain actually works. In all my years of posting on here I've yet to see any evidence that it does.



intergenerational welfare recipients are really "learned helplessness" recipients.

If you eat bad food, dont exercise, are addicted to stimulation from sugary foods and from computer games, then all of these will really sap your will power.

You will never have enough willpower to fuel change on a continuous basis.
What you have to do is to use the small ammount of willpower you have to change a circumstance.

So rather then thinking you will have enough willpower to overcome the negative mindset of all your family and peers who are mediocre (you wont...who could), you use your small ammount of willpower to maybe move your location.
You maybe hitch hike to a cattle station near Mt Isa and take up a job as a farmhand.
This one little act of willpower then has massive flow on, now you have no access to mcdonalds, you have no access to learned helplessness or to pot , you are surrounded by hard workers, you are eating clean, getting strong.
at night, there is no facebook , so you can read self help books and look at the stars and meditate.
One little act of willpower could change your life.

These decisions are available to us all at all times.
you just need to build momentum
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Reply #21 - May 24th, 2016 at 9:15am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 8:37am:
If you eat bad food, dont exercise, are addicted to stimulation from sugary foods and from computer games, then all of these will really sap your will power.



not necessarily about being poor

just look at these examples of poor health

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Reply #22 - May 24th, 2016 at 9:25am
 
John Smith wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 9:15am:
aquascoot wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 8:37am:
If you eat bad food, dont exercise, are addicted to stimulation from sugary foods and from computer games, then all of these will really sap your will power.



not necessarily about being poor

just look at these examples of poor health

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/05/19/1229623/236980-4d0e239a-df09-11e...


One of the images doesn't show up but, given that it appears to be a photograph of Clive Palmer, maybe that's not such a bad thing.
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Reply #23 - May 24th, 2016 at 9:26am
 
John Smith wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 9:15am:
aquascoot wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 8:37am:
If you eat bad food, dont exercise, are addicted to stimulation from sugary foods and from computer games, then all of these will really sap your will power.



not necessarily about being poor

just look at these examples of poor health

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/05/19/1229623/236980-4d0e239a-df09-11e...

http://www.abc.net.au/cm/lb/5132468/data/gina-rinehart-custom-data.jpg


being rich does not gaurantee success.
once people become rich, they will soon discover this will not maintain them in "state"
they then need to search for an area of contribution.

Miss rinehart is an example of attachment to money as a means of "keeping score"
this is low consciousness.
she has destroyed her relationship with her children over this low conscious behaviour
she has destroyed her health

addiction and attachment to anything...drugs, sugar, money, cars , boats and big houses is still attachment .

attachment to the idea that you are superior because you are spiritual is still ego driven and attachment.

she needs to meditate for 20 minutes a day and do yoga and find a cause outside of herself to become passionate about.
this is the way of the superior mining magnate
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Reply #24 - May 24th, 2016 at 9:29am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 9:26am:
being rich does not gaurantee success.



and being poor doesn't guarantee poor health.
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Reply #25 - May 24th, 2016 at 9:31am
 
Wolseley wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 9:25am:
John Smith wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 9:15am:
aquascoot wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 8:37am:
If you eat bad food, dont exercise, are addicted to stimulation from sugary foods and from computer games, then all of these will really sap your will power.



not necessarily about being poor

just look at these examples of poor health

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/05/19/1229623/236980-4d0e239a-df09-11e...


One of the images doesn't show up but, given that it appears to be a photograph of Clive Palmer, maybe that's not such a bad thing.



None of them show up on my screen ... I don't know why. Anyway, the photos were off Clive and Gina
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Reply #26 - May 24th, 2016 at 9:31am
 
When ever I go out to the western proletarian zones of Sydney I'm just amazed at the body shapes compared to the my cloistered beach side suburb.

My daughters and all of her friends have no interest in retail junk food like Mc$hit.

I often casually quiz them if they've tried it and the most frequent answer is it's disgusting factory food for people who don't know any better.

I've had a car full of her friends coming over for a play date and told them they can have anything they like for lunch, I had to swing by the deli for some prosciutto, bocconcini cheese and baguettes, cost, about $15.  I bet going to Mc$hit with 5 kids would cost way more than that.

Mrs Gordy has some friends in the less affluent area of Sydney and when we go to their kids birthday parties I'm almost tempted to call DOCS to report the parents for child abuse. They're all fatties. The parents are fatties and they guzzle down the Coke, fanta and even have their parties and Mc$hit.

Another observation is when my daughter plays sport. We're starting to play teams way out of our area and the amount of porky kids is off the scale. A little puppy fat is one thing but I'm talking about kids with overhanging tummy rolls and bingo wings. I've also seen parents so fat they're on mobility scooters.



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Reply #27 - May 24th, 2016 at 9:33am
 
John Smith wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 9:15am:
aquascoot wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 8:37am:
If you eat bad food, dont exercise, are addicted to stimulation from sugary foods and from computer games, then all of these will really sap your will power.



not necessarily about being poor

just look at these examples of poor health

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/05/19/1229623/236980-4d0e239a-df09-11e...

http://www.abc.net.au/cm/lb/5132468/data/gina-rinehart-custom-data.jpg


Yes john, there are unhealthy rich people, and healthy poor people.  However, these are not distributed in equal measure. 

You don't need to get up in arms about generalised observations - they don't apply to 100% of cases, and nobody said they did, but if say, 2/3 of poor people are fat and 1/3 of rich people are, it's a pretty significant trend that porobably should be addressed, rather than swept under the carpet.


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Reply #28 - May 24th, 2016 at 10:34am
 
Mistress Nicole wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 10:53pm:
ian wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 10:45pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 9:43pm:
Those from Lower socioeconomic backgrounds also suffer more trauma, and abuse in childhood. I'm sure you wouldn't disagree Juliar - it's a revolving door.

I'm a sixth gen Aussie who still believes in "a fair go". You?

Our society is paying child abusers to have kids. Maybe we need to cut out that incentive.


Hi Ian,

I was unaware of that. Could you be so kind as to link me to it?

Cheers
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Reply #29 - May 24th, 2016 at 10:58am
 
... wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 9:33am:
John Smith wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 9:15am:
aquascoot wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 8:37am:
If you eat bad food, dont exercise, are addicted to stimulation from sugary foods and from computer games, then all of these will really sap your will power.



not necessarily about being poor

just look at these examples of poor health

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/05/19/1229623/236980-4d0e239a-df09-11e...

http://www.abc.net.au/cm/lb/5132468/data/gina-rinehart-custom-data.jpg


Yes john, there are unhealthy rich people, and healthy poor people.  However, these are not distributed in equal measure. 

You don't need to get up in arms about generalised observations - they don't apply to 100% of cases, and nobody said they did, but if say, 2/3 of poor people are fat and 1/3 of rich people are, it's a pretty significant trend that porobably should be addressed, rather than swept under the carpet.





Its amazing that poor women , in particular, havent cottoned onto the idea of eating better and exercising.

This is not meant to be a misogynistic statement, merely a realistic statement.....

a woman who is poor but who

handles her nutrition
handles her weight
handles her emotions
learns to be good in bed
learns to be quiet at the right times and not be clingy

can EASILY snag a high quality guy and improve her social  circumstance by 1000%.

in fact, she deserves a high quality guy because she has become a high quality woman.

None of the above activities cost a cent and they are just  common sense.

i would go so far as to say, because of the evolutionary pressure of coming up from poverty, such a woman is even more valuable then a bratty rich party girl who likes to do coke and buy expensive handbags.

if i could give one bit of advice to young girls in poor families it would be to follow aquascoots simple recipe.

BUT they wont and this is entirley due to the limiting beliefs and success barriers of the poor.
How pitiful  Cry Cry
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