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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: 5 children sized from parents for being Christian Reply #15 - May 19^th, 2016 at 3:20pm bogarde73 wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 3:04pm: Norwegian govt is part of the bizzaro world of the global left. Exactly!
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Reply #16 - May 19^th, 2016 at 3:47pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

No but essentially what we have is not children being taken away due to religious reasons, but for suspected child abuse.

child abuse? the kid only admitted to a spanking (not child abuse) after hours of coaching. Barenvernet were called because the kids were overheard singing christian songs. At that time, there was no mention of spanking by anybody.

The Bodnariu family have since had all sorts of character witnesses and assessments from independent child psychologists and social workers, and all found the children were thriving and there was no evidence of mistreatment ... but the way Barnevernet works, that is inadmissible as evidence because they didn't work for Barnevernet

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Reply #17 - May 19^th, 2016 at 3:49pm

I put this up on another thread once, but the reasons barnevernet gave are so ridiculous that it's worth putting up again

John Smith wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 7:01pm:

For those who are interested, some of the official reasons given by Norways Child Protection Services can be found here

http://www.mhskanland.net/page10/page122/page122.html

I'll pick out some of the more absurd ones, but there are to many to list them all. Even then, the list on the link is not a complete list.

(3) Clean clothes are not placed in 'military order' in the cupboard.

(5) The child looks eagerly at strangers around it and smiles at them. This means that it is not attached to its mother. [The mother stood talking to some people after visiting the social security office, while the baby in the pram looked eagerly at people around it.]

(9) The father has a foot injury and cannot stand on a ladder. Therefore he is not able to clean the top of the window frames.

(16) The mother is very small. When the daughter grows to become a teenager, the mother will not be able to tackle her

(18) When visiting the children the grandmother wanted to embrace them. The CPS had to stop that, since it can create an unwanted attachment.

(31) The daughter does not like fish-balls. This is a clear sign of incest.

(41) The boy's parents fail in their care for him; they do not give him enough to eat. [The mother of one of the boy's friends noticed that he ate a great deal of cake when he visited her son in their home, and she reported this to the CPS as a cause for worry.]

53) When the child fell over, the mother just picked her up and put her back on her feet, without comforting her verbally. [The little girl had not cried and was not unhappy. She was just beginning to walk and often fell over without hurting herself.]

(63) The mother is clumsy when using the tin-opener. [Statement by a psychologist.]

(68) The parents are too concerned with the child and over-protect it. [Cf (67).]

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Reply #18 - May 19^th, 2016 at 3:54pm

John Smith wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

No but essentially what we have is not children being taken away due to religious reasons, but for suspected child abuse.

child abuse? the kid only admitted to a spanking (not child abuse) after hours of coaching. Barenvernet were called because the kids were overheard singing christian songs. At that time, there was no mention of spanking by anybody.

Norwegian law is absolute when it comes to corporal punishment, any form of 'physical correction' is illegal, no middle ground.

Utterly ridiculous

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Reply #19 - May 19^th, 2016 at 3:55pm

Raven wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

John Smith wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

No but essentially what we have is not children being taken away due to religious reasons, but for suspected child abuse.

child abuse? the kid only admitted to a spanking (not child abuse) after hours of coaching. Barenvernet were called because the kids were overheard singing christian songs. At that time, there was no mention of spanking by anybody.

Norwegian law is absolute when it comes to corporal punishment, any form of 'physical correction' is illegal, no middle ground.

Utterly ridiculous

it's worse than that ... raise your voice at your kids and it's considered child abuse

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Raven Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2982 Around	Re: 5 children sized from parents for being Christian Reply #20 - May 19^th, 2016 at 4:03pm Look at Raven's previous post. A four month old, alert and engaging with her parents was "suffering psychological harm' because she wasn't making eye contact and the mother was 'depressed' Sweet zombie Jesus
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Reply #21 - May 19^th, 2016 at 5:28pm

Raven wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

John Smith wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

No but essentially what we have is not children being taken away due to religious reasons, but for suspected child abuse.

child abuse? the kid only admitted to a spanking (not child abuse) after hours of coaching. Barenvernet were called because the kids were overheard singing christian songs. At that time, there was no mention of spanking by anybody.

Norwegian law is absolute when it comes to corporal punishment, any form of 'physical correction' is illegal, no middle ground.

Utterly ridiculous

Oops, I gave my daughter a faux clip on the back of the head for being a mole this morning.
I guess she'd be in foster care by now

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Reply #22 - May 19^th, 2016 at 5:31pm

GordyL wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 5:28pm:

Oops, I gave my daughter a faux clip on the back of the head for being a mole this morning.
I guess she'd be in foster care by now Smiley

the sad part is that if you were in Norway and someone saw you do it, she would be .... and you'd have no rights whatsoever

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Reply #23 - May 19^th, 2016 at 5:51pm

John Smith wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 5:31pm:

GordyL wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 5:28pm:

Oops, I gave my daughter a faux clip on the back of the head for being a mole this morning.
I guess she'd be in foster care by now Smiley

the sad part is that if you were in Norway and someone saw you do it, she would be .... and you'd have no rights whatsoever

The neighbor saw it so I'd be screwed. Are the parents also charged?

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Reply #24 - May 19^th, 2016 at 5:55pm

GordyL wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

John Smith wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 5:31pm:

GordyL wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 5:28pm:

Oops, I gave my daughter a faux clip on the back of the head for being a mole this morning.
I guess she'd be in foster care by now Smiley

the sad part is that if you were in Norway and someone saw you do it, she would be .... and you'd have no rights whatsoever

The neighbor saw it so I'd be screwed. Are the parents also charged?

yep. and even if the parents are cleared later on, there is still no guarantee you'll get your kids back

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: 5 children sized from parents for being Christian Reply #25 - May 19^th, 2016 at 9:53pm I'm not arguing over the child abuse part, just stating its definietely not an anti-christian thing
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Reply #26 - May 20^th, 2016 at 8:59am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 9:53pm:

I'm not arguing over the child abuse part, just stating its definietely not an anti-christian thing

Marius and Ruth were officially informed by the government that they were guilty of "Christian radicalism and indoctrination."
It is not only anti Christian but also anti human and anti family dictatorship act that only happened in fascist Germany and Stalin's Soviet Russia.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: 5 children sized from parents for being Christian Reply #27 - May 20^th, 2016 at 10:21am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 9:53pm: I'm not arguing over the child abuse part, just stating its definietely not an anti-christian thing despite the Barnevernet saying that it was ?
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: 5 children sized from parents for being Christian Reply #28 - May 20^th, 2016 at 10:34am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 9:53pm: I'm not arguing over the child abuse part, just stating its definitely not an anti-christian thing Huh? Ohhhhh. You were joking. My bad.
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Reply #29 - May 20^th, 2016 at 10:45am

capitosinora wrote on May 20^th, 2016 at 8:59am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 19^th, 2016 at 9:53pm:

I'm not arguing over the child abuse part, just stating its definietely not an anti-christian thing

Marius and Ruth were officially informed by the government that they were guilty of "Christian radicalism and indoctrination."
It is not only anti Christian and but also anti human and anti family dictatorship act that only happened in fascist Germany and Stalin's Soviet Russia.

Marius and Ruth I think are making it up.

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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