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Reply #15 - May 16^th, 2016 at 7:02pm

lee wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 6:39pm:

Bam wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

The only thing that "does not compute" is your wilful ignorance. Do you really have to be told the basics of ecology and biology?

Ah well, you'll have to provide a link proving your assertion.

Do you mean plants and humans are now in balance, that they were in time past in balance, or that they are always in balance?

That depends. What is your level of scientific literacy? No point posting advanced science if you failed year 8 science (which is likely if you don't understand the basics of ecological balance).

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19964 Gender:	Re: 400 PPM Co2 Heats Up Election Reply #16 - May 16^th, 2016 at 7:04pm Bam wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 7:02pm: That depends. What is your level of scientific literacy? No point posting advanced science if you failed year 8 science (which is likely if you don't understand the basics of ecological balance). Just try some science for a change. Any level. If you a capable.
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Reply #17 - May 16^th, 2016 at 8:22pm

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Grendel wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 2:54pm:

I love how The Greens have a secret switch and thermostat to turn down the Sun.

Not so secret.
Reduce human created greenhouse gas in the atmosphere via things like not burning coal for electricity.

Oh dear... Climate Swinny is a lot more complicated than CO2.
Modelling has been a total failure.
Alarmists are the Chicken Little's of our society.

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Reply #18 - May 16^th, 2016 at 8:30pm

I'm on Lee's side...
For starters the carbon on the planet is not increasing only the form changes. In the past there has been much more of it in the atmosphere.
As for science... the population is definitely increasing and we all know no matter how much we would deny it that vast tracts of the Amazon and other world forests are being destroyed and not replaced.
If you want to take carbon out of the atmosphere naturally, plant more trees, grow more grass.

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Reply #19 - May 16^th, 2016 at 8:35pm

Grendel wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 8:22pm:

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Grendel wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 2:54pm:

I love how The Greens have a secret switch and thermostat to turn down the Sun.

Not so secret.
Reduce human created greenhouse gas in the atmosphere via things like not burning coal for electricity.

Oh dear... Climate Swinny is a lot more complicated than CO2.
Modelling has been a total failure.
Alarmists are the Chicken Little's of our society.

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Scientific consensus: Earth's climate is warming

April breaks global temperature record, marking seven months of new highs

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/16/april-third-month-in-row-to-b...

The NSW Liberal Party donor emailed a climate skeptics handbook to hundreds of contacts, including top academics, politicians and some of Australia's wealthiest people.

The Prime Minister's wife Lucy Turnbull and New South Wales Premier Mike Baird were just two of them.

The 16-page, user-friendly document explains how climate skeptics can win arguments with people who believe that climate change is caused by human activity.

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/electricity-boss-mistakenly-sends-cl...

DOHL !

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: 400 PPM Co2 Heats Up Election Reply #20 - May 16^th, 2016 at 8:52pm Sorry for ages now the Consensus lie has been debunked. Weather wise we are still getting record highs and lows.
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Reply #21 - May 16^th, 2016 at 8:52pm

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 8:35pm:

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Scientific consensus: Earth's climate is warming

Now link it to CO2 without models.____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 8:35pm:

April breaks global temperature record, marking seven months of new highs

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/16/april-third-month-in-row-to-b...

El Nino - natural event____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 8:35pm:

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/electricity-boss-mistakenly-sends-cl...

Oh, no. They still claiming 97%? Even the Garudian has dropped that thread, Grin

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Reply #22 - May 16^th, 2016 at 9:09pm

lee wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 8:52pm:

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 8:35pm:

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Scientific consensus: Earth's climate is warming

Now link it to CO2 without models.____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 8:35pm:

April breaks global temperature record, marking seven months of new highs

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/16/april-third-month-in-row-to-b...

El Nino - natural event____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 8:35pm:

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/electricity-boss-mistakenly-sends-cl...

Oh, no. They still claiming 97%? Even the Garudian has dropped that thread, Grin

No opinion on this !

he NSW Liberal Party donor emailed a climate skeptics handbook to hundreds of contacts, including top academics, politicians and some of Australia's wealthiest people.

The Prime Minister's wife Lucy Turnbull and New South Wales Premier Mike Baird were just two of them.

The 16-page, user-friendly document explains how climate skeptics can win arguments with people who believe that climate change is caused by human activity.

Not surprised.

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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: 400 PPM Co2 Heats Up Election Reply #23 - May 16^th, 2016 at 9:09pm CO2 has been all over the place at various times during Earths history without detriment yet the climate cranks have mysteriously determined that 350 ppm is the optimal, funny about that
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Reply #24 - May 16^th, 2016 at 9:13pm

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

No opinion on this !

he NSW Liberal Party donor emailed a climate skeptics handbook to hundreds of contacts, including top academics, politicians and some of Australia's wealthiest people.

The Prime Minister's wife Lucy Turnbull and New South Wales Premier Mike Baird were just two of them.

The 16-page, user-friendly document explains how climate skeptics can win arguments with people who believe that climate change is caused by human activity.

Not surprised.

So he sent an email. What is surprising about that? It went to the wrong addressees, again what is surprising about that?

Perhaps you should read the document and inform yourself. At least you might be able to argue the case.

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Reply #25 - May 16^th, 2016 at 9:17pm

lee wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 9:13pm:

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

No opinion on this !

he NSW Liberal Party donor emailed a climate skeptics handbook to hundreds of contacts, including top academics, politicians and some of Australia's wealthiest people.

The Prime Minister's wife Lucy Turnbull and New South Wales Premier Mike Baird were just two of them.

The 16-page, user-friendly document explains how climate skeptics can win arguments with people who believe that climate change is caused by human activity.

Not surprised.

So he sent an email. What is surprising about that? It went to the wrong addressees, again what is surprising about that?

Perhaps you should read the document and inform yourself. At least you might be able to argue the case.

I laugh all the way through

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Reply #26 - May 16^th, 2016 at 9:23pm

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 9:17pm:

I laugh all the way through

Yes, I find it funny also that they put thermometers used to calculate temperatures near the exhaust vent of air conditioners. You do know air conditioner outputs put heat into the air,

It is the same with airports, those are set up for calculating temperatures for lift etc, for the planes. Have you ever felt the heat put out by a turning jet plane? Again not good for calculating global temperatures.

Your lack of knowledge is showing.

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: 400 PPM Co2 Heats Up Election Reply #27 - May 16^th, 2016 at 9:25pm Utter Greenie rubbish.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: 400 PPM Co2 Heats Up Election Reply #28 - May 16^th, 2016 at 9:26pm Shows how desperate the fossil sector is. Desperate to destroy the human civilisation. And idiots do their bidding. Do you guys get any financial benefits?
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Reply #29 - May 16^th, 2016 at 9:45pm

Greens_Win, for your edification

'Class 1
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Flat, horizontal land, surrounded by an open space, slope less than 1/3 (19°);
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Ground covered with natural and low vegetation (< 10 cm) representative of the region;
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Measurement point situated:
o at more than 100 m from heat sources or reflective surfaces (buildings, concrete surfaces, car parks, etc.)
o at more than 100 m from an expanse of water (unless significant of the region)
o away from all projected shade when the Sun is higher than 5°.'

http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/CIMO/CIMO15-WMO1064/1064_en.pdf

Siting of measuring equipment, Do you think the photo shows 100m separation?

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