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May 16^th, 2016 at 11:41am

Cape Grim carbon dioxide reading exceeds 400ppm landmark for first time

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-16/cape-grim-co2-reading-reaches-400ppm-for-t...

Only Greens, have a target of keeping warming below 1.5 degrees.

The duopoly wants 2 degrees of warming.

Voters serious about protecting our human civilisation and economy from collapse, are Greens Voters.

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Reply #1 - May 16^th, 2016 at 2:32pm

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 11:41am:

Cape Grim carbon dioxide reading exceeds 400ppm landmark for first time

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-16/cape-grim-co2-reading-reaches-400ppm-for-t...

Only Greens, have a target of keeping warming below 1.5 degrees.

The duopoly wants 2 degrees of warming.

Voters serious about protecting our human civilisation and economy from collapse, are Greens Voters.

But we only have a few weeks to do it apparently. within a week of 6/6/16. We're doomed.

Of course you are relying on computer models for 1.5ºC and 2.0ºC. You know, those models that haven't got it right yet?

According to Hanjiharvi et al 2013 we have warmer temperatures in the past.

'The Arctic Atlantic reconstruction features temperatures during the Roman Warm Period and Medieval Climate Anomaly that are comparable or even warmer than those of the twentieth century, and coldest temperatures in the middle of the nineteenth century, just prior to the onset of the recent warming trend.'

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00382-013-1701-4

Those bloody Romans in their turbocharged chariots.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: 400 PPM Co2 Heats Up Election Reply #2 - May 16^th, 2016 at 2:54pm I love how The Greens have a secret switch and thermostat to turn down the Sun.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: 400 PPM Co2 Heats Up Election Reply #3 - May 16^th, 2016 at 3:29pm Grendel wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 2:54pm: I love how The Greens have a secret switch and thermostat to turn down the Sun. Not so secret. Reduce human created greenhouse gas in the atmosphere via things like not burning coal for electricity.
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: 400 PPM Co2 Heats Up Election Reply #4 - May 16^th, 2016 at 3:54pm The terrorist sympahising greens shouldve voted for the ETS instead of siding with the libs.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19964 Gender:	Re: 400 PPM Co2 Heats Up Election Reply #5 - May 16^th, 2016 at 4:20pm ____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 3:29pm: Reduce human created greenhouse gas in the atmosphere Humans emit about 1kg per day when we exhale. World population - 7.4b 365 days So humans add about 2.7b tonnes of CO2/year simply by existing.
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Reply #6 - May 16^th, 2016 at 4:41pm

lee wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 4:20pm:

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Reduce human created greenhouse gas in the atmosphere

Humans emit about 1kg per day when we exhale.
World population - 7.4b
365 days

So humans add about 2.7b tonnes of CO2/year simply by existing.

Not true, because emissions from respiration are balanced by uptake by plants. Net change is zero. We have a whole planetful of lifeforms making no net change to CO₂ - the ecology is in balance.

Humans have disturbed that balance by taking sequestered carbon and adding it to the atmosphere. All of that coal and oil has to go somewhere when burnt, right?

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Reply #7 - May 16^th, 2016 at 4:44pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

The terrorist sympahising greens shouldve voted for the ETS instead of siding with the libs.

A. a two state solution is not supporting terrorist.
B. the term terrorists is subjective.
i.e http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1463262521
C. The labor ETS was a con and that's why labor ran from the greatest moral issue of our generation
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449746328
D. Greens didn't side with the Libs. They voted down bad labor policy. That's their job.

Labor siding with the coalition and attacking the renewable energy target, a few months back, shows labor is still in denial over AGW.

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Reply #8 - May 16^th, 2016 at 4:59pm

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

The terrorist sympahising greens shouldve voted for the ETS instead of siding with the libs.

A. a two state solution is not supporting terrorist.
B. the term terrorists is subjective.
i.e http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1463262521
C. The labor ETS was a con and that's why labor ran from the greatest moral issue of our generation
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449746328
D. Greens didn't side with the Libs. They voted down bad labor policy. That's their job.

Labor siding with the coalition and attacking the renewable energy target, a few months back, shows labor is still in denial over AGW.

Terrorist sympathising greens voted with tony Abbott to end action on climate change.

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Reply #9 - May 16^th, 2016 at 5:02pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 4:59pm:

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

The terrorist sympahising greens shouldve voted for the ETS instead of siding with the libs.

A. a two state solution is not supporting terrorist.
B. the term terrorists is subjective.
i.e http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1463262521
C. The labor ETS was a con and that's why labor ran from the greatest moral issue of our generation
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449746328
D. Greens didn't side with the Libs. They voted down bad labor policy. That's their job.

Labor siding with the coalition and attacking the renewable energy target, a few months back, shows labor is still in denial over AGW.

Terrorist sympathising greens voted with tony Abbott to end action on climate change.

trolling will now be ignored.
new you couldn't cut it with the big boys for long.

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Reply #10 - May 16^th, 2016 at 5:09pm

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 5:02pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 4:59pm:

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

The terrorist sympahising greens shouldve voted for the ETS instead of siding with the libs.

A. a two state solution is not supporting terrorist.
B. the term terrorists is subjective.
i.e http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1463262521
C. The labor ETS was a con and that's why labor ran from the greatest moral issue of our generation
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449746328
D. Greens didn't side with the Libs. They voted down bad labor policy. That's their job.

Labor siding with the coalition and attacking the renewable energy target, a few months back, shows labor is still in denial over AGW.

Terrorist sympathising greens voted with tony Abbott to end action on climate change.

trolling will now be ignored.
new you couldn't cut it with the big boys for long.

Big boys? Are u fat?

It isn't trolling to post the truth: the greens voted with tony Abbott against the ETS and subsequently destroyed and action on climate change.

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Reply #11 - May 16^th, 2016 at 5:37pm

Bam wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 4:41pm:

Not true, because emissions from respiration are balanced by uptake by plants. Net change is zero.

So world population about 1830 - 1 billion
World population 2016 - 7.4 billion

So according to your theory there is far more plant uptake now than in 1830. Yet according to the story we have lost vast tracts of our forests, and have desertification. Something does not compute.

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Reply #12 - May 16^th, 2016 at 6:34pm

lee wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Bam wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 4:41pm:

Not true, because emissions from respiration are balanced by uptake by plants. Net change is zero.

So world population about 1830 - 1 billion
World population 2016 - 7.4 billion

So according to your theory there is far more plant uptake now than in 1830. Yet according to the story we have lost vast tracts of our forests, and have desertification. Something does not compute.

The only thing that "does not compute" is your wilful ignorance. Do you really have to be told the basics of ecology and biology?

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Reply #13 - May 16^th, 2016 at 6:39pm

Bam wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

The only thing that "does not compute" is your wilful ignorance. Do you really have to be told the basics of ecology and biology?

Ah well, you'll have to provide a link proving your assertion.

Do you mean plants and humans are now in balance, that they were in time past in balance, or that they are always in balance?

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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: 400 PPM Co2 Heats Up Election Reply #14 - May 16^th, 2016 at 6:56pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 3:54pm: The terrorist sympahising greens shouldve voted for the ETS instead of siding with the libs. The Greens know that the best bet for the environment is to help the jihadis turn back the clock to the camel riding seventh century.
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