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Re: Major Parties Need To Support Educational Equality
Reply #30 - May 3rd, 2016 at 7:19pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Lol, so get off your ass and get an education you lazy bugger.

And then, in what sense would I be incompetant? Australia is already inundated with competant workers and a severe lack of incompetant ones. I have no desire to add to this problem and I very dearly wish to live in a community where it isn't so bad; where my incompetent friends, family, coworkers, aquaintances & neighbors are able to flourish.

I'd really hoped to keep this conversation civil and while we seem to disagree over this issue, for some reason your trying to degrade this conversation with insults.

I am not lazy. I have no aversion to working, but only if it is towards a goal worth working for. Injected another educated brainiac into a country & world that is already inundated with such people is not a goal worth pursuing. I would go so far to say that it is a goal worth avoiding at any cost. If you love educated/qualified/trained people so much, then good for you! Your probably already surrounded by them. But the people who prefer the company of unqualified people aren't so lucky. It's those people who I fight for. It's those people who I will work for. That is a cause worth working for.
Karnal wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:28pm:
You can in Australia. I didn't do my HSC. I applied to go to uni as a mature-aged student when I was 23.

All I did was send a letter.

Hmm. Maybe the system's changed? That was not my experience when I was in highschool. A lot of my classmates got really stressed out about whether their results would be good enough to let them get in to the college courses they wanted and I remember the teachers spending a lot of time yammering on to us about the marks we needed to get to access certain courses.
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Re: Major Parties Need To Support Educational Equality
Reply #31 - May 3rd, 2016 at 7:42pm
 
omerox wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Lol, so get off your ass and get an education you lazy bugger.

And then, in what sense would I be incompetant? Australia is already inundated with competant workers and a severe lack of incompetant ones. I have no desire to add to this problem and I very dearly wish to live in a community where it isn't so bad; where my incompetent friends, family, coworkers, aquaintances & neighbors are able to flourish.

I'd really hoped to keep this conversation civil and while we seem to disagree over this issue, for some reason your trying to degrade this conversation with insults.

I am not lazy. I have no aversion to working, but only if it is towards a goal worth working for. Injected another educated brainiac into a country & world that is already inundated with such people is not a goal worth pursuing. I would go so far to say that it is a goal worth avoiding at any cost. If you love educated/qualified/trained people so much, then good for you! Your probably already surrounded by them. But the people who prefer the company of unqualified people aren't so lucky. It's those people who I fight for. It's those people who I will work for. That is a cause worth working for.
Karnal wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:28pm:
You can in Australia. I didn't do my HSC. I applied to go to uni as a mature-aged student when I was 23.

All I did was send a letter.

Hmm. Maybe the system's changed? That was not my experience when I was in highschool. A lot of my classmates got really stressed out about whether their results would be good enough to let them get in to the college courses they wanted and I remember the teachers spending a lot of time yammering on to us about the marks we needed to get to access certain courses.



good grief omerox, if you dont want to be educated there is still plenty of meaningful work for the unqualified.
i have a 73 yo neighbour who runs cattle . his wife recently died.
he had a woman from the corporate world trying to "find herself" helping him out, but she's gone back to perth.
so, theres a vacancy.
$350 a week, free board, free food, free use of a car. living in an idyllic old homestead and all you have to do is wander round on a quad bike and try not to get bitten by a brownsnake.
i could hook people up with dozens of these jobs.
I have no idea why people work from dawn to dusk in the city to go home to a dingey squat and eat bread and water.
youre not a tree....move  Wink
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Re: Major Parties Need To Support Educational Equality
Reply #32 - May 3rd, 2016 at 7:45pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:42pm:
omerox wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Lol, so get off your ass and get an education you lazy bugger.

And then, in what sense would I be incompetant? Australia is already inundated with competant workers and a severe lack of incompetant ones. I have no desire to add to this problem and I very dearly wish to live in a community where it isn't so bad; where my incompetent friends, family, coworkers, aquaintances & neighbors are able to flourish.

I'd really hoped to keep this conversation civil and while we seem to disagree over this issue, for some reason your trying to degrade this conversation with insults.

I am not lazy. I have no aversion to working, but only if it is towards a goal worth working for. Injected another educated brainiac into a country & world that is already inundated with such people is not a goal worth pursuing. I would go so far to say that it is a goal worth avoiding at any cost. If you love educated/qualified/trained people so much, then good for you! Your probably already surrounded by them. But the people who prefer the company of unqualified people aren't so lucky. It's those people who I fight for. It's those people who I will work for. That is a cause worth working for.
Karnal wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:28pm:
You can in Australia. I didn't do my HSC. I applied to go to uni as a mature-aged student when I was 23.

All I did was send a letter.

Hmm. Maybe the system's changed? That was not my experience when I was in highschool. A lot of my classmates got really stressed out about whether their results would be good enough to let them get in to the college courses they wanted and I remember the teachers spending a lot of time yammering on to us about the marks we needed to get to access certain courses.



good grief omerox, if you dont want to be educated there is still plenty of meaningful work for the unqualified.
i have a 73 yo neighbour who runs cattle . his wife recently died.
he had a woman from the corporate world trying to "find herself" helping him out, but she's gone back to perth.
so, theres a vacancy.
$350 a week, free board, free food, free use of a car. living in an idyllic old homestead and all you have to do is wander round on a quad bike and try not to get bitten by a brownsnake.
i could hook people up with dozens of these jobs.
I have no idea why people work from dawn to dusk in the city to go home to a dingey squat and eat bread and water.
youre not a tree....move  Wink


Aquascoot's a homosexual matchmaker? Aquascoot is also implicated in attempt to rip off worker with insufficient wages.

The minimum wage would require your widower to pay $ 656.90 per week; not $ 350. No wonder he can't find a worker. Aquascoot is pocketing the $300+ difference.
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Re: Major Parties Need To Support Educational Equality
Reply #33 - May 3rd, 2016 at 7:49pm
 
Svengali wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:45pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:42pm:
omerox wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Lol, so get off your ass and get an education you lazy bugger.

And then, in what sense would I be incompetant? Australia is already inundated with competant workers and a severe lack of incompetant ones. I have no desire to add to this problem and I very dearly wish to live in a community where it isn't so bad; where my incompetent friends, family, coworkers, aquaintances & neighbors are able to flourish.

I'd really hoped to keep this conversation civil and while we seem to disagree over this issue, for some reason your trying to degrade this conversation with insults.

I am not lazy. I have no aversion to working, but only if it is towards a goal worth working for. Injected another educated brainiac into a country & world that is already inundated with such people is not a goal worth pursuing. I would go so far to say that it is a goal worth avoiding at any cost. If you love educated/qualified/trained people so much, then good for you! Your probably already surrounded by them. But the people who prefer the company of unqualified people aren't so lucky. It's those people who I fight for. It's those people who I will work for. That is a cause worth working for.
Karnal wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:28pm:
You can in Australia. I didn't do my HSC. I applied to go to uni as a mature-aged student when I was 23.

All I did was send a letter.

Hmm. Maybe the system's changed? That was not my experience when I was in highschool. A lot of my classmates got really stressed out about whether their results would be good enough to let them get in to the college courses they wanted and I remember the teachers spending a lot of time yammering on to us about the marks we needed to get to access certain courses.



good grief omerox, if you dont want to be educated there is still plenty of meaningful work for the unqualified.
i have a 73 yo neighbour who runs cattle . his wife recently died.
he had a woman from the corporate world trying to "find herself" helping him out, but she's gone back to perth.
so, theres a vacancy.
$350 a week, free board, free food, free use of a car. living in an idyllic old homestead and all you have to do is wander round on a quad bike and try not to get bitten by a brownsnake.
i could hook people up with dozens of these jobs.
I have no idea why people work from dawn to dusk in the city to go home to a dingey squat and eat bread and water.
youre not a tree....move  Wink


Aquascoot's a homosexual matchmaker? Aquascoot is also implicated in attempt to rip off worker with insufficient wages.

The minimum wage would require your widower to pay over $ 600 per week; not $ 350. No wonder he can't find a worker.


you are too focused on money.
you need to approach things more from a sense of "contribution" Wink
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Re: Major Parties Need To Support Educational Equality
Reply #34 - May 3rd, 2016 at 7:51pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:49pm:
Svengali wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:45pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:42pm:
omerox wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Lol, so get off your ass and get an education you lazy bugger.

And then, in what sense would I be incompetant? Australia is already inundated with competant workers and a severe lack of incompetant ones. I have no desire to add to this problem and I very dearly wish to live in a community where it isn't so bad; where my incompetent friends, family, coworkers, aquaintances & neighbors are able to flourish.

I'd really hoped to keep this conversation civil and while we seem to disagree over this issue, for some reason your trying to degrade this conversation with insults.

I am not lazy. I have no aversion to working, but only if it is towards a goal worth working for. Injected another educated brainiac into a country & world that is already inundated with such people is not a goal worth pursuing. I would go so far to say that it is a goal worth avoiding at any cost. If you love educated/qualified/trained people so much, then good for you! Your probably already surrounded by them. But the people who prefer the company of unqualified people aren't so lucky. It's those people who I fight for. It's those people who I will work for. That is a cause worth working for.
Karnal wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:28pm:
You can in Australia. I didn't do my HSC. I applied to go to uni as a mature-aged student when I was 23.

All I did was send a letter.

Hmm. Maybe the system's changed? That was not my experience when I was in highschool. A lot of my classmates got really stressed out about whether their results would be good enough to let them get in to the college courses they wanted and I remember the teachers spending a lot of time yammering on to us about the marks we needed to get to access certain courses.



good grief omerox, if you dont want to be educated there is still plenty of meaningful work for the unqualified.
i have a 73 yo neighbour who runs cattle . his wife recently died.
he had a woman from the corporate world trying to "find herself" helping him out, but she's gone back to perth.
so, theres a vacancy.
$350 a week, free board, free food, free use of a car. living in an idyllic old homestead and all you have to do is wander round on a quad bike and try not to get bitten by a brownsnake.
i could hook people up with dozens of these jobs.
I have no idea why people work from dawn to dusk in the city to go home to a dingey squat and eat bread and water.
youre not a tree....move  Wink


Aquascoot's a homosexual matchmaker? Aquascoot is also implicated in attempt to rip off worker with insufficient wages.

The minimum wage would require your widower to pay over $ 600 per week; not $ 350. No wonder he can't find a worker.


you are too focused on money.
you need to approach things more from a sense of "contribution" Wink


Aquascoot needs to spend some time in jail for ripping off workers by paying below minimum wage.
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Reply #35 - May 3rd, 2016 at 7:56pm
 
Svengali wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:49pm:
Svengali wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:45pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:42pm:
omerox wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Lol, so get off your ass and get an education you lazy bugger.

And then, in what sense would I be incompetant? Australia is already inundated with competant workers and a severe lack of incompetant ones. I have no desire to add to this problem and I very dearly wish to live in a community where it isn't so bad; where my incompetent friends, family, coworkers, aquaintances & neighbors are able to flourish.

I'd really hoped to keep this conversation civil and while we seem to disagree over this issue, for some reason your trying to degrade this conversation with insults.

I am not lazy. I have no aversion to working, but only if it is towards a goal worth working for. Injected another educated brainiac into a country & world that is already inundated with such people is not a goal worth pursuing. I would go so far to say that it is a goal worth avoiding at any cost. If you love educated/qualified/trained people so much, then good for you! Your probably already surrounded by them. But the people who prefer the company of unqualified people aren't so lucky. It's those people who I fight for. It's those people who I will work for. That is a cause worth working for.
Karnal wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:28pm:
You can in Australia. I didn't do my HSC. I applied to go to uni as a mature-aged student when I was 23.

All I did was send a letter.

Hmm. Maybe the system's changed? That was not my experience when I was in highschool. A lot of my classmates got really stressed out about whether their results would be good enough to let them get in to the college courses they wanted and I remember the teachers spending a lot of time yammering on to us about the marks we needed to get to access certain courses.



good grief omerox, if you dont want to be educated there is still plenty of meaningful work for the unqualified.
i have a 73 yo neighbour who runs cattle . his wife recently died.
he had a woman from the corporate world trying to "find herself" helping him out, but she's gone back to perth.
so, theres a vacancy.
$350 a week, free board, free food, free use of a car. living in an idyllic old homestead and all you have to do is wander round on a quad bike and try not to get bitten by a brownsnake.
i could hook people up with dozens of these jobs.
I have no idea why people work from dawn to dusk in the city to go home to a dingey squat and eat bread and water.
youre not a tree....move  Wink


Aquascoot's a homosexual matchmaker? Aquascoot is also implicated in attempt to rip off worker with insufficient wages.

The minimum wage would require your widower to pay over $ 600 per week; not $ 350. No wonder he can't find a worker.


you are too focused on money.
you need to approach things more from a sense of "contribution" Wink


Aquascoot needs to spend some time in jail for ripping off workers by paying below minimum wage.


what is this minimum wage of which you speak?
the wage scale is a ladder .
you start at the bottom and , as you become more valuable, you climb the ladder.
surely pointing out such an obvious fact would not result in jail time  Wink
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Reply #36 - May 3rd, 2016 at 10:46pm
 
omerox wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Lol, so get off your ass and get an education you lazy bugger.

And then, in what sense would I be incompetant? Australia is already inundated with competant workers and a severe lack of incompetant ones. I have no desire to add to this problem and I very dearly wish to live in a community where it isn't so bad; where my incompetent friends, family, coworkers, aquaintances & neighbors are able to flourish.

I'd really hoped to keep this conversation civil and while we seem to disagree over this issue, for some reason your trying to degrade this conversation with insults.

I am not lazy. I have no aversion to working, but only if it is towards a goal worth working for. Injected another educated brainiac into a country & world that is already inundated with such people is not a goal worth pursuing. I would go so far to say that it is a goal worth avoiding at any cost. If you love educated/qualified/trained people so much, then good for you! Your probably already surrounded by them. But the people who prefer the company of unqualified people aren't so lucky. It's those people who I fight for. It's those people who I will work for. That is a cause worth working for.
Karnal wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 5:28pm:
You can in Australia. I didn't do my HSC. I applied to go to uni as a mature-aged student when I was 23.

All I did was send a letter.

Hmm. Maybe the system's changed? That was not my experience when I was in highschool. A lot of my classmates got really stressed out about whether their results would be good enough to let them get in to the college courses they wanted and I remember the teachers spending a lot of time yammering on to us about the marks we needed to get to access certain courses.




So I'm guessing you got a star in your HSC? 

Sorry just my private school elitism....oh wait I went to public schools. I just worked.
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Reply #37 - May 4th, 2016 at 12:50am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:56pm:
what is this minimum wage of which you speak?
the wage scale is a ladder .
you start at the bottom and , as you become more valuable, you climb the ladder.
surely pointing out such an obvious fact would not result in jail time  Wink


Trouble with that analogy is that all the lowest steps of the ladder must be able to support a person or nobody gets to climb... ever.....  Cool

That's why there is a wage scale.... though I note the Gauleiter Morrison is seeking to break it down with 'internships' paid at unemployment benefit rate + $200 a fortnight... about $230 a week... or $6 an hour (now we get the picture behind the figures)... hardly enough to feed a cage of pet mice...
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Reply #38 - May 4th, 2016 at 2:24am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:42pm:
good grief omerox, if you dont want to be educated there is still plenty of meaningful work for the unqualified.i have a 73 yo neighbour who runs cattle . his wife recently died.he had a woman from the corporate world trying to "find herself" helping him out, but she's gone back to perth.so, theres a vacancy.$350 a week, free board, free food, free use of a car. living in an idyllic old homestead and all you have to do is wander round on a quad bike and try not to get bitten by a brownsnake.i could hook people up with dozens of these jobs.I have no idea why people work from dawn to dusk in the city to go home to a dingey squat and eat bread and water.youre not a tree....move  Smiley
I think you are missing the point here.

I never said that unqualified people can't get jobs. The whole issue here is that they can't get a lot of particular jobs, jobs that it might well be their dream to have. They are unfairly denied a great many opportunities that are offered to educated people. That is the issue at hand - that is the issue that we need to correct.

Okay, so there's plenty of farm work available for unqualified workers - well that's great for all the people whose life ambition is to be a farmer, but that life isn't for everyone.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 10:46pm:
So I'm guessing you got a star in your HSC?
No idea. Never opened the envelope.

aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 7:49pm:
you are too focused on money.
you need to approach things more from a sense of "contribution" Wink
Now this I agree with!
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Reply #39 - May 6th, 2016 at 7:20pm
 
This thread seems to have drifted a bit away from its intended purpose, so I'll attempt now to get it back on track.

Once again, I'd like to let everybody know about a petition that calls on the 3 big parties (coalition, labor & greens) to make a significant commitment towards legalizing and encouraging educational equality part of their campaigns for the upcoming election.

Here is the URL(copy & paste it in to your browser's address bar):

change.org/p/minister-for-employment-michaelia-cash-liberal-party-get-the-partie
s-to-commit-to-real-action-on-educational-equality-before-the-election?recruiter
=217814541&utm_source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink

Please, don't keep this to yourself, let anybody and everybody you know, who might want to see a more educationally equal future, know about this petition, so we can all work together to make this dream a reality!
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